Smasher with bionic hand - Theoretical

[Zodiac]

So, say a smasher had a bionic hand similiar to this one.

Thats a hand by touch bionics, there are videos on youtube of it in action if you want to check it out, but lets assume that its 6 years from now and those bionic hands can move just as fast as human hands, or in some cases faster. Would a smasher with a bionic right hand (Tech skill hand) be considered to have an unfair advantage over his competition? I personally wouldn't think so since he still has to do everything so delicately and time it flawlessly

 

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[t3h Icy]

See if Melee lasts that long first.

 

[Jonas]

50 years from now nobody will even think of entering a national Melee tournament without bionic hands.

 

[Zantetsu]

No items, fox only, tech skill competition on FD. GO!

 

[Mooo]

left hand is true techskill hand

 

[Life]

Wasn't there a short story or something about bionic limbs and whatnot showing they really couldn't be that overpowering or our biological bits would get torn apart?

 

[Zimbagwe]

I wouldn't think they'd have an unfair advantage. Basically because it's still their brain that has to input the command, not their hand. The hand mearly executes the task it's told to do.

 

[MTKO]

Even if their fingers were moving faster, which could make it slightly easier for them to do technical things, other people can still perform the same technical things. Have the bionic arm may just help speed up the learning process for tech skill because the person wouldn't have to put as much practice into learning how fast to press certain buttons. They'd still have to learn the timing on things though. And Tech skill is only one part of the game. The bionic arm wouldn't be doing much for them as far as strategy and mind games go.

 

[Roneblaster]

really?


id be pissed as **** if i sat down in GF's to see some dude with a robot hand with perfect ****ing tech-skill.

 

[Dragoon Fighter]

id be pissed as **** if i sat down in GF's to see some dude with a robot hand with perfect ****ing tech-skill.

No johns. Would you be mad if it was a non-robot hand person who had perfect tech skill?

Anyway as long as the hand does not have a NGC plug in that goes directly into the NGC/Wii allowing them to control there character by pure thought, I see no reason why not.

 

[Beat!]

No johns. Would you be mad if it was a non-robot hand person who had perfect tech skill?

If the person with a non-robot hand had gotten the tech skill through dedicated training, then of course not.

What kind of comparison is that?

 

[DualCats]

I wouldn't think they'd have an unfair advantage. Basically because it's still their brain that has to input the command, not their hand. The hand mearly executes the task it's told to do.

This. Perhaps a bionic hand has potential capabilities for a level of delicate precision that exceeds that of a natural hand but tech skill has significantly more to do with the user's control of that appendage.

Also; I love your avatar, sir.

 

[Dragoon Fighter]

If the person with a non-robot hand had gotten the tech skill through dedicated training, then of course not.

What kind of comparison is that?

It still takes training to get perfect tech skill robot hand or not. I see no reason why you would be mad at one but not the other, hence why I asked that.

 

[Bones0]

Anyone see that new show; something like the Onion News Sports Network? They had the boxer with the bionic hand, and he was all like, "I guess people are just intimidated because I'm different." MAD funny.

FOUND IT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BjOiPkueto

They have bioengineered a limbs onto monkeys. They hook the monkey up to some contraption that tracks his brain waves as he moves his own hand. There is a bionic hand in the room, and as the monkey moves his hand he is able to control the movement of the other hand. With practice and data collection about his brainwaves patterns when moving his arm, the monkey can control the bionic arm without having to move his original arm at all. I learned this in a TED video; I think it wast his one:

http://www.ted.com/talks/paul_root_wolpe_it_s_time_to_question_bio_engineering.html

Such an awesome site.

 

[Beat!]

It still takes training to get perfect tech skill robot hand or not. I see no reason why you would be mad at one but not the other, hence why I asked that.

I think the way Roneblaster said it implied that it would be pre-programmed tech skill.

 

[ryuu seika]

If the person with a non-robot hand had gotten the tech skill through dedicated training, then of course not.

And if bionic hand man had also gotten said tech skill through dedicated training?

 

[Roneblaster]

They will always have an advantage.

Their hands wont get sweaty, or tired, or ever have injury, etc.

 

[ryuu seika]

Damage to the hand is possible, as would be leaking pneumatic fluids or wearing out. In short, all of the things you mentioned are possible with bionic hands, just not nearly as likely.

 

[Zimbagwe]

This. Perhaps a bionic hand has potential capabilities for a level of delicate precision that exceeds that of a natural hand but tech skill has significantly more to do with the user's control of that appendage.

Also; I love your avatar, sir.

lol thanks.

And yea, you're right that it has a lot to do with the control of that appendage. But it's still not like as soon as you get this bionic hand your skill will just shoot up exponentially. And yes, it may possibly be able to execute commands at a more precise level. But you would still have to learn and practice everything all the same.

 

[iode]

The real deciding factor here is that the brain behind the tool is still just a human brain. A brain like a scrub w/ a bionic hand vs a brain like Mango's with his own organic hand will have a pretty obvious outcome. Now if the bionic hand had a computer behind it, that's a different story. I'm sure that if Nintendo wanted to create an impossible to beat computer difficulty level (say, cpu lvl 100) they could have. They intended the level 9 computers to make mistakes, but they could have just as easily created something that times everything perfectly, or right when you attack, they calculate hitbox and priority before executing the next move, etc.

 

[Zodiac]

The hand wouldn't wear out after just one or two matches, it would likely take a while to wear out, that is a good point, I find my hands get worn out after five or six matches of heavy tech skill. So his right hand would not get tired after frame perfect execution (thats assuming he could do frame perfect execution)

 

[Bones0]

Found the video I was talking about earlier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BjOiPkueto

So good.

 

[Roneblaster]

If their hand is hardwired into their brain, then they wont ever **** up techskill, taking the human element out of half the game and giving them an absurb advantage. Im NOT saying they would be unbeatable, im saying that from "GO!" They have an advantage.

 

[MTKO]

The real deciding factor here is that the brain behind the tool is still just a human brain. A brain like a scrub w/ a bionic hand vs a brain like Mango's with his own organic hand will have a pretty obvious outcome. Now if the bionic hand had a computer behind it, that's a different story. I'm sure that if Nintendo wanted to create an impossible to beat computer difficulty level (say, cpu lvl 100) they could have. They intended the level 9 computers to make mistakes, but they could have just as easily created something that times everything perfectly, or right when you attack, they calculate hitbox and priority before executing the next move, etc.

That would be quite interesting. It would be like solving a weird fighting game puzzle to beat it. You'd have to figure out what move or sequence of moves would give you frame advantage to be able to beat the computers frame perfect inputs and priority calculations. That would be a fun puzzle.

 

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really though, what's the point of threads like this >.>
will people john once we become cyborgs, and can wire into our brains to do tech skill?

the real question is: who cares?!