Smash WiiU & 3DS Miiverse Daily Pic - July 29th

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PLEASE, ANY PAPER MARIO CHARACTER, I BEG YOU

 

[CrimsonYoshi]

I own all 4 games, and I can say that the best games were the first two. I don't understand why people like SPM or SS, so I hope any representation for the series is done by the original 2. The 3rd and 4th, aside from destroying the semilinear adventure in a large connected world and making actual levels, also doesn't have the same feel. If Paper Mario is a character, base him off of TTYD and 64, with partners and not the Pixls or the Navi-esque Kersti.

 

[DavemanCozy]

You seriously have to be trolling.

I don't think there is such a thing as serious trolling. To troll is to post something in a seemingly serious tone, but do not be fooled, for it is not serious and the troll is simply joking.

HINT: If you click that arrow next to "DavemanCozy said" to check the post that I replied to, everything will become clear

 

[RPGatWill]

Dunno what to say about this stage, I don't care about Paper Mario. And what's the big deal with Sticker Star? It seems that everybody hates that game.

From what I can gather, sticker star was a big departure from the RPG style Paper Mario had up to that point. Also, using stickers just kind of seems like a weird and not very good concept for a game.

Then again when I first picked up paper mario i thought the same thing about everything being made of paper, and I was dead wrong there.

 

[A_Phoenix_Down]

Maybe Paper Mario can be an alt-costume for Mario now

 

[Nietendodude]

Dunno what to say about this stage, I don't care about Paper Mario. And what's the big deal with Sticker Star? It seems that everybody hates that game.

Sticker Star is considered the worst Paper Mario game but I wouldn't call it a bad game. It had some issues with the gameplay design whihc were questionable (like no place the store important stickers than your album which is full of them leaving little to no room for others.) Also back tracking to area you need stickers for as well as a lack of charm and story in the game (heck bowser barely shows up and never talks). It felt very lacking compared to the other games in the series. Even Super Paper Mario while completely different gameplay had a great story and characters.

 

[Neaphous]

Please, oh powerful Nintendo gods, that this gets ATLEAST 1 stage from each Paper Mario game, I want a good one from Super Paper Mario.

 

[Malion]

They need to add Goombella for sure!

...
We at least need a Paper Mario related assist trophy.

 

[TheGravyTrain]

I found TYD really boring. I don't have it, but I played it an my friend's and it was REALLY boring IMO. Sticker Star was a lot more interesting.

Do you normally like rpg's? Otherwise, from a retrospective view, there should be no expectations for it and you would pass off your lack of entertainment simply for not liking the genre. Sticker Star is a completely different game from Thousand year door, the only similarity being asthetic. Its understandable to like sticker star more if you have never really enjoyed any RPG. They are known for having slower and more methodical styles, so it being boring (especially if you doing get into the story, its one of every rpg's keystone element).

 

[Delzethin]

So the stage transforms, basically? Are there other transformations we haven't seen yet?

Based on the two we have right now, this could be a potential counterpick...

 

[L9999]

That squid better do nothing and just be there as a prop, like the Yoshi stage in Brawl.

 

[SS-bros14]

Do you normally like rpg's? Otherwise, from a retrospective view, there should be no expectations for it and you would pass off your lack of entertainment simply for not liking the genre. Sticker Star is a completely different game from Thousand year door, the only similarity being asthetic. Its understandable to like sticker star more if you have never really enjoyed any RPG. They are known for having slower and more methodical styles, so it being boring (especially if you doing get into the story, its one of every rpg's keystone element).

I actually usually enjoy RPG's. TTYD plot was just boring, find the treasure, open this special door, far too bland. Of course, Super Paper Mario may be tied with it since IMO that wasn't very good either.

 

[Enigma14]

Palutena's Temple is the Kid Icarus stage for the Wii version, in the same way that Reset Bomb Forest is the Kid Icarus stage for the Nintendo 3DS. That doesn't mean that Viridi is a playable character and was not a clear indication that Palutena is a playable character.

Mario Galaxy is even more clear. It's clearly a Mario stage and was not clearly a "Rosalina Stage" at the time.

He never revealed Boxing Ring as "For the first time, a Punch-Out!! stage." He even threw us off by using a Smash Logo instead of the WVBA logo.

Sakurai could have also used the Dedede boxing ring from Kirby Super Star.

 

[DirtyPete]

They need to add Goombella for sure!

...
We at least need a Paper Mario related assist trophy.

i prefer goombario

 

[DirtyPete]

Do you normally like rpg's? Otherwise, from a retrospective view, there should be no expectations for it and you would pass off your lack of entertainment simply for not liking the genre. Sticker Star is a completely different game from Thousand year door, the only similarity being asthetic. Its understandable to like sticker star more if you have never really enjoyed any RPG. They are known for having slower and more methodical styles, so it being boring (especially if you doing get into the story, its one of every rpg's keystone element).

im honestly really surprised that people consider tyd to be the superior paper mario game; when i played it it just seemed really odd, and a lot sillier than paper mario 64, which isnt necessarily a good thing in my opinion. Honestly, my favorite paper mario was the original one, followed by super paper mario, which combined platforming elements and "goomba stomping" method of defeating enemies that mario is known for with the world of paper mario which, even if some think it wasnt amazing, it was at least something different.

 

[FlashG]

Yes! Finally a Paper Mario stage! Now I'm crossing my fingers in the hopes of Paper Mario being a playable character

 

[Ryan.]

Ooh I really like this stage! Sadly still only getting the Wii U version. I wish Pirate Ship would come back for a Wii U stage, or maybe this stage for the Wii U too.

 

[TheGravyTrain]

im honestly really surprised that people consider tyd to be the superior paper mario game; when i played it it just seemed really odd, and a lot sillier than paper mario 64, which isnt necessarily a good thing in my opinion. Honestly, my favorite paper mario was the original one, followed by super paper mario, which combined platforming elements and "goomba stomping" method of defeating enemies that mario is known for with the world of paper mario which, even if some think it wasnt amazing, it was at least something different.

I haven't played any of the games extensively, so I can't really call it my favorite of the series, but I still love The Thousand Year Door to death. I would probably do a couple more run throughs if it weren't so easy. I am planning on getting the original to try it out. I don't know much about the the Wii version (never been a fan of any game of a franchise I love on that system...), but I have read many reviews on sticker star and seen the game play a couple times. It is a fine game, though some things are questionable (I strongly hate the *idea* of only using items, etc...). The reason I am not fond of it is the creator originally said it would return to the style of TTYD when he started (over the Wii versions more platformer-esque nature), but then released Sticker Star (which only shares the brand and art style...).

Thats why a lot of people hate it. They were told it would return to what made the series unique after the Wii game, and then it didn't even come close. I am actually considering modding TTYD to be more difficult (mostly the same plot and animations and stuff, just add some strategy and difficulty and maybe some move changes, easy stuff.) because I like the base that it has.

 

[Greninja'd]

About time Paper Mario gets some representation.
Maybe the Mario & Luigi RPGs could get a stage too?

 

[SmashingObjection]

By that logic, showing Tortimer Island hints at Tortimer being playable and showing Wily Castle hints at Dr. Wily being playable. Those stages, unlike the Paper Mario stage, are not tied to a single character but rather a franchise with multiple potential characters, including characters that are already represented in the game, such as Mario and Pikachu.

I'm sorry that makes no sense what so ever. Willy Castle was for mega man, tortimer island was for villager. Each new character so far has gotten their own stage on both versions of SSB4 (why do you think they bothered porting boxing ring and willy castle to 3ds?). I'm not saying "PAPER MARIO CONFIRMED" but this in no way hurts his chances.

 

[Rockaphin]

What a coincidence, the RotC thread is rating Paper Mario today.

 

[Da Black Rabbit]

Time to say something that hopefully won't get me bashed, I hated Thousand Year Door and think Sticker Star was the best Paper Mario.

...wait, what? Are you serious? You're just trolling, right? There is no way...

Like, some bosses in that game require you to have a certain sticker to beat them or they become near impossible. That game is riddled with bad game design. One boss I remember was the Giant Cheep-Cheep that would recover HP faster then you could dish damage if you didn't have a combo of the Fish Hook sticker and shiny stickers. Another boss I repeatedly died at was the Cactus boss. Literally had to die before that sticker crown that follows you made a suggestion to use the bat. Then the last boss I got trashed by before I said screw it and went to GameFaqs was the Squid Boss.

Thousand Year Door might have been on the easier side of RPGs but at least it allowed freedom in battle unlike Sticker Stars. There are more bosses that require set stickers to beat and if you don't have them you'll lose no matter how many Mega Shinies are in your arsenal. Speaking of stickers, that whole system is stupid. It encourages avoiding battles to save good stickers for bosses when half the fun of Paper Mario games are the battles.

But to each there own, I guess...

 

[Da Black Rabbit]

i prefer goombario

I prefer Miss Bow

Slapping the SH** outta people since the year 2000!

 

[Malion]

I'd like Goombella, Vivian, Miss Bow or Ms. Mowz.

 

[SS-bros14]

...wait, what? Are you serious? You're just trolling, right? There is no way...

Like, some bosses in that game require you to have a certain sticker to beat them or they become near impossible. That game is riddled with bad game design. One boss I remember was the Giant Cheep-Cheep that would recover HP faster then you could dish damage if you didn't have a combo of the Fish Hook sticker and shiny stickers. Another boss I repeatedly died at was the Cactus boss. Literally had to die before that sticker crown that follows you made a suggestion to use the bat. Then the last boss I got trashed by before I said screw it and went to GameFaqs was the Squid Boss.

Thousand Year Door might have been on the easier side of RPGs but at least it allowed freedom in battle unlike Sticker Stars. There are more bosses that require set stickers to beat and if you don't have them you'll lose no matter how many Mega Shinies are in your arsenal. Speaking of stickers, that whole system is stupid. It encourages avoiding battles to save good stickers for bosses when half the fun of Paper Mario games are the battles.

But to each there own, I guess...

Not trolling, but you were probably joking anyway. : P
As I said, I just found Thousand Year Door boring.
Also, hopefully I won't get even more bashed because of this, but I actually liked the sticker system sometimes in Sticker Star.

 

[Malion]

Sticker star would have been better with partners, and default moves that didn't require stickers. Needing a sticker to jump was just silly.

 

[jigglover]

Just leaves Mario Party now...

I mean, Mario Golf and Tennis are also franchises, but they are nowhere near as popular as Mario Kart, Paper Mario and Mario Party. Mario Party is actually really iconic to Mario (before Wii Party, anyway! ), unlike generic sports games or Mario Kart.

I believe this deconfirms Paper Mario completely and utterly, though.

 

[SS-bros14]

Just leaves Mario Party now...

I mean, Mario Golf and Tennis are also franchises, but they are nowhere near as popular as Mario Kart, Paper Mario and Mario Party. Mario Party is actually really iconic to Mario (before Wii Party, anyway! ), unlike generic sports games or Mario Kart.

I believe this deconfirms Paper Mario completely and utterly, though.

How does it deconfirm him?

 

[DirtyPete]

I prefer Miss Bow

Slapping the SH** outta people since the year 2000!

YESSSSSS MISS BOW FOR SMASH 2014

 

[jigglover]

How does it deconfirm him?

Becasue Paper Mario probably doesn't warrant a character and a stage like this. If the character was revealed first, a stage would be necessary. However, the stage is revealed first.

Before someone says Sprit Tracks: Toon Link is a veteran and is extremely important to representing his series. Paper Mario isn't in the same league as Toon Link at all,

 

[Deleted member]

Becasue Paper Mario probably doesn't warrant a character and a stage like this. If the character was revealed first, a stage would be necessary. However, the stage is revealed first.

Before someone says Sprit Tracks: Toon Link is a veteran and is extremely important to representing his series. Paper Mario isn't in the same league as Toon Link at all,

Yeah. This doesn't mean ''Paper Mario confirmed,'' but it's pretty nice to see a stage based upon it on Smash Bros. 3DS.

 

[herbmaster%]

finally some paper mario fan service!

 

[BrigadeStuart]

Becasue Paper Mario probably doesn't warrant a character and a stage like this. If the character was revealed first, a stage would be necessary. However, the stage is revealed first.

Before someone says Sprit Tracks: Toon Link is a veteran and is extremely important to representing his series. Paper Mario isn't in the same league as Toon Link at all,

Boxing ring was shown off first, Little mac confirmed later on. Mario galaxy stage shown first, Rosalina confirmed later on.

BUT if sakurai were to hint at Paper Mario being a playable character, he would of just teased about this stage and not call it by its franchise name. He could of questioned about the paper environment and leave out the paper mario stage bit. Keep in mind guys, the Boxing Ring was never mentioned as A Punch Out Stage. It was hinted to be Little macs stage since he is a boxer and his games take place in a boxing arena (and in NY while your in a pink training outfit).

 

[Malion]

We need a Mario party or Mario tennis level now

 

[SS-bros14]

Becasue Paper Mario probably doesn't warrant a character and a stage like this. If the character was revealed first, a stage would be necessary. However, the stage is revealed first.

Before someone says Sprit Tracks: Toon Link is a veteran and is extremely important to representing his series. Paper Mario isn't in the same league as Toon Link at all,

I think your forgetting the Mario Galaxy stage being revealed before Rosalina's announce.

 

[RPGatWill]

I think your forgetting the Mario Galaxy stage being revealed before Rosalina's announce.

Yeah but you can't really say that Mario Galaxy stage is connected to Rosalina. Sure it's the series she was introduced in, but Mario and Luigi were the playable characters in both of those games so it's not really proof of Rosalina's addition to the game. (Keep in mind I like Rosalina being playable)

 

[Owlflame]

I personally think this could mean PM will be playable. And why not? He's an entirely different character.

 

[Wyntir]

Hmmm paper bowser skin or him in his tux. gengar needs to join the roster...just saying

 

[Commander DJ]

I'm really glad Paper Mario is getting some representation in this game. The TTYD stage looks like it'll be a lot of fun.

 

[TheGravyTrain]

I own all 4 games, and I can say that the best games were the first two. I don't understand why people like SPM or SS, so I hope any representation for the series is done by the original 2. The 3rd and 4th, aside from destroying the semilinear adventure in a large connected world and making actual levels, also doesn't have the same feel. If Paper Mario is a character, base him off of TTYD and 64, with partners and not the Pixls or the Navi-esque Kersti.

I can understand why people enjoy the second 2, just not as the best paper mario games. The problem I have with them is they basically shafted any chance (mainly sticker star) of getting a true successor...