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Really? Well, that's cool! Um, I don't suppose you'll be adding her to that chart anytime soon?
I noticed this too when it was posted, but thought it was related to mobile devices.@GoldenYuiitusin or
The Famicom/NES Roster Icons are inconsistent with the rest of the icons; can you resize them to fit properly with the rest?
I'll try to make it happen! These are mostly skeletal for the most part. You may not have noticed, but Isaac isn't present in the Handheld list either. Maybe something worth discussing over?
Well...
Depends on if you want Dark MK as a costume or is own slot.
Depends on what he'll be like in star allies.
Well, I was right.
My suggestions would be:
She's already there.
We were originally going to have Spyro based on the whole rumor surrounding him, Crash, and Captain Toad, but by the time it came to make the Third-Party chart, that rumor had been debunked hard and we decided that at this point in time Spyro didn't really have much going for him due to the roster being "finalized" well before the Reignited Trilogy was even a twinkle in Activision's eye.
As far as being a fighter goes, Eevee fits the majority of criteria, though I feel the possibility of designing a unique fighting style for Eevee that doesn't break the rules of the character is difficult. If Eevee was added to Smash it would be based off of Eevee in the games, not the manga. There are more ways to advertise/promote something other than a fighter, and while the concept behind supporting Eevee is understandable it doesn't really seem to add much to the game.
As far as becoming a playable fighter, Henry Fleming's chances seems very scarce. STEAM didn't really do that well in terms of sales, the character is not very popular, and him with most of STEAM's characters hail from classic literature. Not to say Fleming would cause any legal issue, but it would feel like he's not a game character first (if that makes any sense?). As far as being a playable fighter, it's heavily doubtable we'd see Fleming. but I definitely see the possibility of an Assist Trophy at best. Lacks popularity and notoriety.
Literally anyone from Rhythm Heaven could lead the franchise in Smash so I guess she could be the one. Consistent leading lady in promotional material right? Her design is pretty inconsistent though, but she's a good way to reference multiple forms of rhythmic combat. Due to the nature of the character / situation, it's something definitely worth considering.
Well we're trying to not go too crazy with these character additions, realistically Wolf is really the only character from the franchise that would get in right now. If he does show up, then yeah I can see potential for Krystal or Slippy down the line if this game adopts DLC. But for now, Wolf is the only one that makes sense.
I don't see how that benefits a playable role for Dark Matter though. The form a playable version would take has only appeared in two main Kirby titles, and even then Dark Matter as an entity doesn't really fit a playable role. It's not really much of a character, so there's no personality it adds to the character selection. I personally think Dark Matter would be an interesting addition to the mix, but aside from being this overarching evil that messes with Kirby and friends often there isn't much to it. (Does that mean Dark Meta Knight is an all-star? no, but its a dream friend and i didnt want him in the list in the first place either lol)
Retro characters are weird to guess but I guess Startropics has a devoted enough cult following to consider.
I mean yeah I guess. Not sure if Hyrule Warriors is gonna get a lot of in Smash stuff other than music though, being a third-party based spinoff title and whatnot.
Shovel Knight is definitely the more recognizable of the two, definitely a world wide name. Shantae is definitely known by most dedicated players, but Shovel Knight was name dropped quite a lot in the past 5 years. I wouldn't call him an icon in gaming, but he's definitely made such a big impact in the short time he's been in the limelight. Would definitely argue that he's more well known than Shantae, and the more recognizable the third-party the better.
yes all of the veterans should be present lol
This was because his best chance was during Brawl's development. With Golden Sun being very dormant for a long while there's very little reason to consider him on the radar, additionally with him losing his position as an Assist Trophy in Wii U / 3DS it put him at a very oddly disadvantageous position. I think his fans still yearn for him, but objectively in terms of timing / relevancy / and whatnot it seems like he'll just miss the mark again.
But wouldn't Isaac's presumed nice placement on the ballot at least get him considered?
There's no reason to assume he placed nicely on the ballot though, aside from a few fan polls.
There's a way to have an evolution based moveset for Eevee work that ties in with the game's canon. Namely that Eevee itself doesn't evolve, but it summons it's evolutions to assist, like it does for it's Z-Move in Sun & Moon. (Can you tell I'm the guy who runs the Eevee support thread?
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Logged into my account for the first time in years just to back this sentiment. It seems completely out there to me to list Pokemon like Poipole or Bewear who have virtually no significance in the series and don't have particularly huge fanbases and then to say Eevee, who is hands down within the top 5 if not top 3 most popular Pokemon of all time, has a ton of unique moveset potential, has a game with its name in it coming out within the year, is less likely than them because it would require a slight stretching of the source material.
You would have to ask @GoldenYuiitusin all of these. I agree with like everything you mentioned, but I'm literally the art help lol.
Bewear, like Mimikyu, is a highly promoted Pokémon for Gen 7 to the point it's practically a mascot for the S/M Generation.
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As I said before, implying that focusing on Eevee because of Let's Go!'s existence is somehow wrong doesn't add up with your previous implication that being promotion fuel made other Pokemon viable picks. Even beyond that, this also neglects other changing dynamics beyond just Let's Go!
And on what grounds do you deem this unfeasible besides your own personal bias against the idea?
You're comparing two different series in how they work on the chart instead of looking at it from a separate series perspective. Just because X has characters for X reason doesn't mean Y needs characters for X reason, and rather characters are excluded from Y because Y reason.
This is a very fair point, but I think the only real solution is to be a little bit forgiving with what is plausible. There are plenty of characters currently on the roster for a previous Smash game that would have been viewed as ridiculous suggestion at the time. And I think there are multiple characters currently on your list that are even more implausible than characters you are rejecting. It seems unfair that characters many people would view as completely implausible are on it because you do not personally view them as so, but that characters that many people see as feasible are rejected because you do not personally view them as so.
You have Adeleine in this list. Don't get me wrong, I do not think Krystal or Slippy have a real chance, but you have a character that appeared in supporting roles in two games from a franchise full of random 1-off characters, that hasn't been in a game since the N64. Rejecting Krystal or Slippy for this basis just isn't consistent reasoning.
And most important for this thread,
And to all that I'd add, that with Echo characters being a thing, we should consider characters that are close in design and abilities to the originals. For example, Hilda for Zelda (or with her staff, maybe Palutena?), Plusle and Minum for Pichu, Funky Kong and Kiddy Kong for DK, Medusa for Palutena, Black Shadow for Captain Falcon (I know Ganondorf got his sword out but you never know Sakurai) and Chrom for Ike (bringing that Palutena's Guidance full circle.)
