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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Are we 100% sure Kos-Mos is there?


Because if not:


Mach Rider
Geno
Isaac
Chorus Kids
Banjo



That's 5 unique newcomers, meaning that each would 'probably' get a stage, meaning 108 would be live again.
 

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Do people really not know where Ken's fist is?

Talking about here:
I edited my comment after realizing you said “above his fist”.

I just made a similar image circling that exact spot; not posting it since you beat me to it.

That’s literally just a break in the clouds here behind Shiek.

 
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What's the green thing on the ground in front of Isaac meant to be?
Some psynergy?
Holy ****, I think that's a ****ing Djinn. That's an incredible touch.

The only thing is, I don't remember a Green colored Djinn in Golden Sun. I could be remembering wrong though.
 

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I'm sure if this got out, this would ruffle a lot more feathers than a simple character leak nobody could figure out what it was. :chuckle:
 

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So Kos-Mos isn't actually there?


Then that's 5 unique newcomers and 2 Echo fighters, meaning that we'd reclaim the 5 missing stages from CoroCoro's slip up.
 
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I edited my comment after realizing you said “above his fist”.

I literally made a similar image circling that exact spot; not posting it since you beat me to it.

That’s literally just a break in the clouds here behind Shiek.

Good eye. So damn hard to tell anything in this blurry post.
 

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Gonna say that most definitely isn't KOS-MOS. Having recently played through Xenosaga with a friend, that definitely isn't her. It looks much more like R.O.B.'s lower half as previously mentioned.

EDIT: And have we settled for sure on Mach Rider being between Inkling and Roy? I'm not quite seeing it.
Double Edit: Nvm I see it, kinda weird to grasp but it's neat.

But SEVEN goddamn new characters. There's just no way. Infinity props to whoever made this if it's fake. But at the same time go **** yourself for ruining a surprise this good if it's real.
 
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It's the one above Ken's fist that people are trying to figure out. The head plate is very distinctive - she's in a sort of kicking pose.
I don't really see Kos-Mos right there. Like at all. I'm 90% sure it's the sky.
Edit: damn you image uploader. Quote to see.
 
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So Kos-Mos isn't actually there?


Then that's 5 unique newcomers and 2 Echo fighters, meaning that we'd reclaim the 5 missing stages from CoroCoro's slip up.
I still think it's likely the Minecraft content would be a stage--it fits perfectly. Or, perhaps Banjo/Minecraft came as a package and that is their stage.

...I wouldn't even be mad, to be honest.
 

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I'm going to bed. Somebody wake me up when this one's proven fake too.
 

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>Chorus Kids
>Banjo
>Isaac
>Mach Rider
>Geno

>Shadow echo
>Ken echo

It's way more than anyone's expecting. If this happens, people are going to lose their minds.
 

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Mach Rider is between Inkling and Roy and below DK.
Okay yeah that's definitely Mach Rider.



So now I'm confused.




I can't say Verg was lying after seeing Ken and Geno here, but.... Is Incineroar just actually not happening? THAT... would be surprising. Unless we're missing him, which seems really hard to do.
 

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Where exactly are people seeing Geno in this? Been scouring it like crazy and not seeing any sign of him.

Also, you can make out a bit of French on one of the documents at the top of the picture, for whatever that's worth.
 
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Okay yeah that's definitely Mach Rider.



So now I'm confused.




I can't say Verg was lying after seeing Ken and Geno here, but.... Is Incineroar just actually not happening? THAT... would be surprising. Unless we're missing him, which seems really hard to do.
In this case there's always the chance Vergeben got early information for cut content. Gematsu's original Smash 4 leak got a lot correct, but also had Chrom + Chorus Kids who were nowhere to be seen.
 

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Okay yeah that's definitely Mach Rider.



So now I'm confused.




I can't say Verg was lying after seeing Ken and Geno here, but.... Is Incineroar just actually not happening? THAT... would be surprising. Unless we're missing him, which seems really hard to do.
He could easily be DLC. Seeing as how Smash Wii U opened with Mewtwo I could see Ultimate opening with Inceneroar. Would make sense because of how recent S&M are.

Edit: Though I learned to not FULLY trust Vergeben a looooooong time ago, he has done pretty damn good with this game. Inceneroar could be DLC and Verge not know that.
 
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Where exactly are people seeing Geno in this? Been scouring it like crazy and not seeing any sign of him.

Also, it's a little bit interesting that you can make out a bit of French on one of the documents at the top of the picture.
He's just to the right of Pac-Man and above Ness. You can make out an orange figure with blue and yellow decals (his cape).
 

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Where exactly are people seeing Geno in this? Been scouring it like crazy and not seeing any sign of him.

Also, you can make out a bit of French on one of the documents at the top of the picture, for whatever that's worth.
He's just right below Pac-Man.
 

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Have a side by side we threw together on the Source Gaming discord, makes this much easier to talk about
Side by Side.png
 

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He's just to the right of Pac-Man and above Ness. You can make out an orange figure with blue and yellow decals (his cape).
Oh damn, you're right, was really hard to make out in all that clutter.

So that's 7 more characters then, and 5 which are unique? That's really hard to believe tbh, especially if they're all in only a single Direct.
 

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Have a side by side we threw together on the Source Gaming discord, makes this much easier to talk about
Thank you so much for this!
Echoes:
-Shadow
-Ken
Unique:
-Banjo
-Isaac
-Chorus Kids
-Mach Rider
-Geno

My god... if this is real, guys... if this is real.
 
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Guys I just realised, all the kids are together in the pic. It’s like Villager, Ness, Pokemon Trainer, Young Link, Mega Man and now Chorus Kids are all right next to each other.
 
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