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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Okay, in all seriousness:
That moment when you realize Smash has more PlayStation icons than PS All-Stars
 

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It's the Jappanese name for Earthbound. In fact Earthbound is actually Mother 2. There was a Mother 3 in Japan, so I have no ideal if they are actually going to consider bringing in a new character from that game.

Also anybody else think a story mode for Smash Bros would kinda rule? I mean, It seems dumb but cmon... give it a chance... you'd like it :p
That's dumb, what they're going to put in it, Mario rescuing Zelda and Peach? Ganondorf and Bowser working together? Pikachu and Samus teaming up? It'd never work.
 
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Lol, somebody forgot about Twin Snakes, the Gamecube only remake of MGS 1.

And besides, Spyro and Crash aren't sony anymore after Naughty Dog and Insomniac lost their rights. Sony literally has nobody right now, they'd have to throw up a roster full of random first parties if they were going to have to make their own smash clone.
The **** you talking about, MGS has never been on a Nintendo console.
Also, I can bet you $100 Sony owns and will always own the rights to Spyro and Crash. They're like their Mario and Luigi.
 
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Saw some people asking for Ridley last page. You do realise he’s WAAAAY too big right? He’d be like, half the stage!
 

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I'm still questioning how useful Parrying is. I have no idea how strict the timing is and the footage I've seen has shown the invincibility is minimal and you can't punish multi hits with it(Ridley parried Inkling's jab but the Jab just kept going and hit Ridley)
Gee it's almost like jabs are the 'super fast attack' option for a large chunk of the cast.
In all seriousness I saw some videos of Dr. Mario parrying recoveries and killing with down smash meaning that it can be a real game changer
 

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Wii Fit Trainer??? What is she gonna do? Yoga poses?
Wii Fit Trainer doesn't fight. It's impossible for her to get in, like Miis and an Animal Crossing character. We'll get fighter characters from series like Golden Sun, you'll see.
 

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Okay, in all seriousness:
That moment when you realize Smash has more PlayStation icons than PS All-Stars
That's because Nintendo owns most of the franchises and characters that made their system what it is...
Unlike Sony, as most Playstation icons are third party franchise that were pretty tough to nab...

Also, Smash had a much larger budget, meaning that the bigger third party characters were easier to acquire for it...
 

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The **** you talking about, MGS has never been on a Nintendo console.
Also, I can bet you $100 Sony owns and will always own the rights to Spyro and Crash. They're like their Mario and Luigi.
Oh, yeah I kinda mispoke there. There was ghost babble on GBC though.


And also like Wrath of Cortex was released literally a month before Melee dumbo. And they're making a Spyro game next year for gamecube and ps2.
 
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That's because Nintendo owns most of the franchises and characters that made their system what it is...
Unlike Sony, as most Playstation icons are third party franchise that were pretty tough to nab...

Also, Smash had a much larger budget, meaning that the bigger third party characters were easier to acquire for it...
Still... It's kinda silly, when you think about it.
 

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Wii Fit Trainer doesn't fight. It's impossible for her to get in, like Miis and an Animal Crossing character. We'll get fighter characters from series like Golden Sun, you'll see.
I guarantee you, that Isaac is getting in...
It's not like they'd choose someone as unimportant like Rosalina over him or anything...
 
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You idiots have to stop asking for Snake. He's basically a Sony character and his realistic guns would mean there'd be blood in the game and that's not Nintendo. This is a Nintendo crossover for christ's sake. If you guys want Sony characters, just hope Sony makes their own game with Spyro and Crash.
wow, thats kinda cool, imagine a playstation crossover with Snake, Cloud and Alucard! that would be cool.
 

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I guarantee you, that Isaac is getting in...
It's not like they'd choose someone as unimportant like Rosalina over him or anything...
Wasn't she that lady in that Donkey Kong arcade game? I'm pretty sure Nintendo forgot her.
 
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Is it true? Are we getting day one patches like the Reddit piranha plant leaker said?


To add to this. I would go as far to claim that Nintendo is the one that keeps the industry evolving. Nintendo is always looking for innovation. Sometimes it Works, sometimes it doesnt but no one can claim that Nintendo doesnt take some risks. As long as they keep this thoughts, we can get cool stuff like the switch. (And force others like play to cpoy them at the very least)

Funnily enough, Ridley has always been there in Smash like Charizard, King Dedede and Piranha Plant. Are there any characters left that have been in every iteration of smash and arent playable now?
Jeff, Paula, Poo (if you count the Wii U and 3DS versions as the same) and some of the Poké Ball summons, like Snorlax.
 

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who the **** is rosalina
She's from Super Mario Galaxy, it just came out... She seems like a dumb one-off character, and I don't expect her to appear in any more games afterwards...
It's not like they're gonna put her in the new Mario Kart or anything, right?
 
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There's no way a third party franchise gets two characters. So Ken is a lost cause for this game.
 

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So, all this Smash Bros discussion reminds me... is the Gamecube worth it? I hear good things about melee (odd character picks aside) and I'm getting quite bored of Smash on 64.

GC looks like some kind of kid's lunchbox though. Why would I want a console like that? I'd look like some sorta man-child!
 

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There's no way Sakurai would ever add an Advance Wars character. Bleh, like that'd ever happen!

^ What I wish I could be joking about. :glare:
 

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Okay, in all seriousness:
That moment when you realize Smash has more PlayStation icons than PS All-Stars
Like, I know this thread likes to circlejerk about games they've never played, but the thing is?

This is objectively wrong.
 

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So, all this Smash Bros discussion reminds me... is the Gamecube worth it? I hear good things about melee (odd character picks aside) and I'm getting quite bored of Smash on 64.

GC looks like some kind of kid's lunchbox though. Why would I want a console like that? I'd look like some sorta man-child!
Nah, grab the dreamcast, that is the only place you can play the latest Sonic games.
 

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Full explanation of why Kirby is lone survivor at World of Light: AND ITS NOT SAKURAI BIAS..

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https://www.sourcegaming.info/2018/11/28/sakurai-discusses-the-world-of-light-and-smash-ultimate/

Sakurai:
All the fighters perish at once in “World of Light,” but there wouldn’t be much of a story if one of them didn’t survive. So why did I choose Kirby? “It must be because you created the Kirby series!” …I thought you might say that. But from a game design perspective, and based on process of elimination, Kirby was the obvious choice.

We needed a solid, convincing reason for why said character could outrun Galeem. All fighters possessing “normal” abilities were immediately disqualified. Given that its assault enveloped the ends of the galaxy, only a vehicle that could defy the laws of physics would work. Even short-distance teleportation wouldn’t be enough.

Some of you may have forgotten, but Kirby’s Warp Star has been able to, y’know, warp since his very first game. That alone made him a pretty solid contender. The only other two fighters that could have survived would have been Bayonetta or Palutena. That said, Bayonetta’s enemies from Purgatorio (a hellish other world) were turned into Spirits, so it wouldn’t have made sense for her to escape. Other divine beings like Hades were also turned into Spirits, so there was no way Palutena could have survived, too.

Plus, it would have been difficult to use Bayonetta or Palutena as the starting character. The first character players try has to be simple and easy to use. As you may have seen in The Smashing Life, Kirby was voted as the character they should play first. I really had no other choice than Kirby.
 
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Have you guys heard rumors about melee's leaked final roster? It seems untrue and unbelieveable to me there, Ganondorf as Falcon clone?? And who the **** is mr. game and watch, Marth, and Roy?
 

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Like, I know this thread likes to circlejerk about games they've never played, but the thing is?

This is objectively wrong.
Well I mean at the very least Smash got more PS1 icons than PSABR.

That's going to be even further cemented if Crash gets in as DLC.
 

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Have you guys heard rumors about melee's leaked final roster? It seems untrue and unbelieveable to me there, Ganondorf as Falcon clone?? And who the **** is mr. game and watch, Marth, and Roy?
I'm mad at the inclusion of Dr Mario... We already have two Marios. We don't need another. He took Ridley's slot!
 
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Like, I know this thread likes to circlejerk about games they've never played, but the thing is?

This is objectively wrong.
Okay, it may not have more, but it does have the bigger ones:
Cloud
Ryu
Snake
 

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You know who'd be cool? Richter from Castlevania. Simon is kinda boring but Richter can do a backflip!
You ever play Symphony of the Night? I'm not allowed but my brother got it and Alucard is so cool! I don't think we will ever have Sony characters in Smash Bros...

Bomberman would be cool! I love Bomberman 64! But I hope Marina Liteyears is in Smash 3! She's from Mischief Makers for the Nintendo 64! Did anyone else play that game??
 
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