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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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perfectchaos83

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Go watch the direct again and Rex's section. Sakurai explain why Rex is literally deconfirmed from DLC-
I understand that. I just don't think it means anything in the long run. But that's only if we get more than one wave of DLC. He's absolutely out for the 5 DLC slots that have been announced.
 

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Question: why is it that when a certain Mii costume is announced, like Rex's, that character which the costume is based off of is deconfirmed? Has this ever been stated?
It's never been stated as far as I know, unless there's an interview with Sakurai that i'm forgetting.

However in Smash 4 a lot of popular characters got mii costumes instead of being playable. This was seen as a consolation prize. Mii costumes did exist of playable characters, but the ones that were not playable, didnt become playable until Smash Ultimate.

Plus Sakurai's statement in the direct could be interpreted in a way that suggests Rex won't be DLC so here's a costume, please understand.
 

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Because 90% of the time. Mii Costume are a way for Sakurai to give a nods to Characters he can't make as a fighter.

Heck, he literally said that Rex is a Mii costume because DLC were planned since the beginning and his game came too late.

This is why Lloyd’s mii costume missing and him not being an assist trophy or spirit sticker makes me think he’s one of the DLC!
 

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So there is room for 6 stages. So we are getting 109 stages at the end. Not 108.

Am i right?
 

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I understand that. I just don't think it means anything in the long run. But that's only if we get more than one wave of DLC. He's absolutely out for the 5 DLC slots that have been announced.
At this point, I'm not sure we'll get a second DLC wave. Sakurai has been dropping hints that he's exhausted since E3 and since this game is so focused on making competitive play good, I don't think they want to go overboard with extra fighters.

Not to mention people aren't going to be satisfied with any amount of DLC, anyway.
 

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At this point, I'm not sure we'll get a second DLC wave. Sakurai has been dropping hints that he's exhausted since E3 and since this game is so focused on making competitive play good, I don't think they want to go overboard with extra fighters.

Not to mention people aren't going to be satisfied with any amount of DLC, anyway.
I don't think he is simply dropping hints anymore. He literally stated "will I ever get a break?" or something along those lines in this direct.
 

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At this point, I'm not sure we'll get a second DLC wave. Sakurai has been dropping hints that he's exhausted since E3 and since this game is so focused on making competitive play good, I don't think they want to go overboard with extra fighters.

Not to mention people aren't going to be satisfied with any amount of DLC, anyway.
Only time will tell. Nintendo wants to put some focus on DLC and Smash is a perfect cash cow for that. You may not be able to satisfy everyone, but you can get close, and I think a 2nd wave of DLC focused on promotions is a good way to do it.
 

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Only time will tell. Nintendo wants to put some focus on DLC and Smash is a perfect cash cow for that. You may not be able to satisfy everyone, but you can get close, and I think a 2nd wave of DLC focused on promotions is a good way to do it.
We still don't know if "promotion" is even a concept in Sakurai's mind, though.
 
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Honestly though, I expect our first "REAL" DLC character to be released at the same time as Plant, probably revealed next month like Spawn Wave has been soo adamantly hinting at.

Funnily enough, that'll fill up all the rows, so they'll have to line break for the next 4 characters.
 

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He certainly deserves one.
The problem is he really doesn't have to continue to do Smash. If the series is becoming too much of a burden and he wants to be free to do other things, he could hand the series over to someone else. I really think he should after all this. But in a way he sees the series as his baby and is unwilling to let it go. I don't think Nintendo is forcing him at gunpoint to do all that he is doing. He's just doing all this himself. It's his choice. But then complains he never gets a break. Sheesh.
 
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Hey so, have things calmed down since the Direct?
 

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I'm really sorry Geno fans, I've never gotten to play SMRPG, and I've never even owned a Sony console, but Sora has my full attention and would blow my socks off way more than Geno. I've always been fascinated by Kingdom Hearts and wanted to play, but I don't want to buy a PS4 just to have a Kingdom-Hearts-playing-box.

@TotsBS has made it clear that Spawn Wave has an absurd winstreak so far, so Sora is looking pretty likely for the Game Awards, count me in.
 

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Honestly though, I expect our first "REAL" DLC character to be released at the same time as Plant, probably revealed next month like Spawn Wave has been soo adamantly hinting at.

Funnily enough, that'll fill up all the rows, so they'll have to line break for the next 4 characters.
While this could be true, they stated in the Direct that development of DLC fighters would happen after the games release. And it takes AWHILE to fully make/develop/balance 1 fighter. So I highly doubt we will see another DLC fighter along with Piranha Plant.

Why do people keep on saying things about the lines of characters in Smash? I don't think, since Brawl, that the game has ever had a perfect square of fighters on the roster.
 

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I'm really sorry Geno fans, I've never gotten to play SMRPG, and I've never even owned a Sony console, but Sora has my full attention and would blow my socks off way more than Geno. I've always been fascinated by Kingdom Hearts and wanted to play, but I don't want to buy a PS4 just to have a Kingdom-Hearts-playing-box.

@TotsBS has made it clear that Spawn Wave has an absurd winstreak so far, so Sora is looking pretty likely for the Game Awards, count me in.
Incase your wondering spirits dont deconfirm since we saw king k rool, kirby and WFT
 

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While this could be true, they stated in the Direct that development of DLC fighters would happen after the games release. And it takes AWHILE to fully make/develop/balance 1 fighter. So I highly doubt we will see another DLC fighter along with Piranha Plant.

Why do people keep on saying things about the lines of characters in Smash? I don't think, since Brawl, that the game has ever had a perfect square of fighters on the roster.
Piranha Plant obviously had a lot of work done on time by the time that they were shown off, and I have a very tough time believing that they have much work left.



Likewise, we have Vergeben saying that there's a 2nd SE character to come out, and Spawn Wave, a man with an impeccable leak record, is STRONGLY implying Sora's going to be shown off at the Game Awards next month.
 

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So. Qcooding the discussion the most likely for DLC were
Isaac. Killed.
Springman. Killed.
Rex and Pyra. Killed.
Waluigi. Killed.
Dixie. Killed.
Spirits or ATs, killed.
He. Look like the trophy gallery is the Sakurai's head collection in the fireplace.
So... What's left.
Tekken. Tales of. Banjo-Kazooie. Rayman. Resident Evil. Kingdom Hearts. Monster Hunter...
I really doubt that the whole DLC comes out from thirds or Corrin alikes. Specially these last ones, if Rex was left, why a younger character could be in?
 
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OreoSmasher777

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Also We have a 1% chance of getting another smash game.

So. Qcooding the discussion the most likely for DLC were
Isaac. Killed.
Springman. Killed.
Rex and Pyra. Killed.
Waluigi. Killed.
Dixie. Killed.
Spirits or ATs, killed.
He. Look like the trophy gallery is the Sakurai's head collection in the fireplace.
So... What's left.
Tekken. Tales of. Banjo-Kazooie. Rayman. Resident Evil. Kingdom Hearts. Monster Hunter...
I really doubt that the whole DLC comes out from thirds or Corrin alikes. Specially this last ones, if Rex was left, why a younger character could be in?
How many times do I have to say this? Read my last post

we saw king k rool, kirby and WFT AS SPIRITS
 

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Piranha Plant obviously had a lot of work done on time by the time that they were shown off, and I have a very tough time believing that they have much work left.



Likewise, we have Vergeben saying that there's a 2nd SE character to come out, and Spawn Wave, a man with an impeccable leak record, is STRONGLY implying Sora's going to be shown off at the Game Awards next month.
I don't really care what leakers say. I care what Nintendo says in their directs. And I am sure they have put work into PP because he isn't a part of that "5 DLC character set" that they touted in the Direct.
 

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If I had to predict DLC... well there are 5 planned, and there are 5 third party companies represented in Smash, so I'll just pick one for each.

Konami: ...Frogger? Idk, I'd say Goemon knowing certain people on here want him but I'm not sure if that'd be on their radar.
Sega: Some Atlus character like Jack Frost, though I'm more confident saying someone from Persona. I'd prefer Beat from JSR though.
Capcom: Dante.
Bandai Namco: I have been feeling strongly about Heihachi for a long time, but with the recent Lloyd rumors, I guess I'll say him.
Square Enix: Sora. That seems pretty clear at this point.

This is just assuming the DLC will be all third party, which I doubt. Plus I think Banjo deserves it more than the majority of the other picks.

Also We have a 1% chance of getting another smash game.
A 1% chance of getting another installment of one of Nintendo's biggest and most traditional series? Hmm...
 
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I don't really care what leakers say. I care what Nintendo says in their directs. And I am sure they have put work into PP because he isn't a part of that "5 DLC character set" that they touted in the Direct.
Well, that's your opinion mate. I'm gonna keep hedging my bets around the two guys who haven't gotten a single thing wrong in regards to Ultimate, you do you.
 

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But think about it- if it was just for Rex and the Base roster, it wouldn't make sense to sell the Mii Costume as a Bonus for the Fighter pass to literally deconfirm him right away if the fighters were choosen AFTER his game was out don't you think?
Not if he just got edged out by five other fighters. If the DLC fighters were chosen sometime after base, seems entirely possible he was in the running but just didn't make the cut.
 

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So. Qcooding the discussion the most likely for DLC were
Isaac. Killed.
Springman. Killed.
Rex and Pyra. Killed.
Waluigi. Killed.
Dixie. Killed.
Spirits or ATs, killed.
He. Look like the trophy gallery is the Sakurai's head collection in the fireplace.
So... What's left.
Tekken. Tales of. Banjo-Kazooie. Rayman. Resident Evil. Kingdom Hearts. Monster Hunter...
I really doubt that the whole DLC comes out from thirds or Corrin alikes. Specially these last ones, if Rex was left, why a younger character could be in?
I don't think we should count spirit characters as deconfirmed characters. There are some playable characters that are also spirits, like Wii Fit Trainer for example.
 

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This is just assuming the DLC will be all third party, which I doubt. Plus I think Banjo deserves it more than the majority of the other picks.
Just adding but how deserving Banjo-Kazooie are means pretty much nothing if Sakurai can't negotiate them. There's not much reason he can't, but not sure if I want to see "BK deserved that slot" arguments for random third parties.
 

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Just adding but how deserving Banjo-Kazooie are means pretty much nothing if Sakurai can't negotiate them. There's not much reason he can't, but not sure if I want to see "BK deserved that slot" arguments for random third parties.
He'd for sure be an exception, assuming he's possible which he hopefully is at this point. I just put a bunch of third parties to make the numbers line up, not that it would actually happen (nor should it).
 

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Morning all

Piranha Plant still feels like some weird fever dream


Piranha Plant is getting a stage and music when he releases
What could his stage be? Please be Bowser's Castle, please be Bowser's Castle, please be Bowser's Castle.
 

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Morning all

Piranha Plant still feels like some weird fever dream




What could his stage be? Please be Bowser's Castle, please be Bowser's Castle, please be Bowser's Castle.
Funnily enough, there is a person on twitter that had a dream that Piranha Plant was a playable character in Ultimate.
A true prophet, most likely.
 

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Now the question is:


Is the stage free WITH Piranha, or do we have to pay for it? They legit don't tell us.
I imagine you have to pay for it but it's just a guess.

It's just a hunch but I feel like DLC will be more lowkey this time.
 

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Anyone know if World of Light is coop? Subspace was so it would make sense.
 
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How many times do I have to say this? Read my last post

we saw king k rool, kirby and WFT AS SPIRITS
Hey, my opinion is the same about spirits. We can't count it as deconfirmations. Because if we cut spirits, younger characters, and ATs... What else we got? Every Nintendo character important enough is a spirit for sure and the fighters got versions, so, no Nintendo for the CLC? That's weird.
Samus Zero or Dr. Mario in story mode is even a bigger thing than tha spirit-fighter duality.
 
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Anyone noticed that the plant doesnt turn into petey but summons him snce you an see the plant walking in his FS
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if all the DLC characters were 3rd parties

I'm just trying to figure out who the 'Cloud' of this game is going to be
 
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