Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Yoshster]

Someone either impersonating Berard or Berard himself
>getting away with making a fake leak at work without his managers noticing
>putting loads of detail into fake leak that most people wouldn't thinking of doing
>making sure to edit in the edges of separate bracelets

VS
>someone with no evidence other than his word being wrong, or his "sources" being wrong.

Sorry but I don't see how the above scenario is more likely.

 

[BluePikmin11]

lets make sacrifices for a direct this week

I'll call Griffith with my cell phone for any needed sacrifices.

 

[joshoctober16]

People on 4chan have brought up that the weird cut between Olimar and Little Mac that showed up after the Isabelle reveal is right where Isaac is in the banner. This may strengthen the "Isaac was supposed to be revealed in the September direct" theory.

It makes sense , issac was likely the reason the direct was push to a week after , so they had to put isabelle fast trying to put it in, cause of this it realy messed up the art, cause it was rush.

 

[N3ON]

It's hard to do so when it's split up into like 50 tweets. I wish they wouldn've just consolidated all of the info.

Someone will consolidate the info claimed once it's all out, all people need to do is be patient and reserve judgment until we can see everything laid in front of us. An exceedingly difficult task, apparently.

 

[Potato_]

Optimist in me says Thursday is our day,

Realist in me is saying SpawnWave is going to add another notch to his credibility and it'll be the 8th.

 

[Z25]

I've got to give mystic some credit for being polite and handling things way better then anyone else.

And while I'll keep his info as a possibility I'm not fully believing anything yet because I find it baffling if someone faked this mural without real info of the game.


And I've posted out an old avi courtesy of vaanrose from back in the day to hopefully tear into the truth( or at least brings us the luck for it). Thanks again for the great art vaan.

And remember its at least worth keeping insider info in the back of your head but you don't have to outright believe or harass someone over it.

 

[ExitWound]

The only question is who?

incineroar

 

[CosmicQuark]

LIVE from Nintendo HQ in Kyoto

Ironic--leaks trying to put out leaks.

 

[Polan]

Why are the only two characters these leakers constantly bringing up the ONLY constants between all of them?

Ken isn't a surprising addition, I doubt he was under the radar as much as other characters. Him leaking is just about as crazy as hearing that Ice Climbers were returning. It's not.

But why is Incineroar the only other character that everyone is so dead set on being in the game? They literally have no proof other than "trust me" for the public right now.

My logic is that Incineroar was probably leak bait as he's the only constant between leakers/insiders, and is strangely missing from easily one of the most complex and hard to fake leaks in Smash. It's not that hard to believe, and it's just my personal thoughts on this. Just because it doesn't align with your thought process or your logic, doesn't mean it's poor logic. Nobody can deny that the whole Incineroar thing is straight up fishy at this point.

please stop with this complex = legit. there are plenty of people out there with the time and resources to **** with gullible smash fans. and it's not like we can see up close how complex the leak is anyway. it's conveniently blurry and there's all sorts of visual flaws indicative of someone ****ing up. also why is incineroar the leak bait? why is it not isaac or the chorus kids or mach rider or some other character? is it because incineroar disproves the Holy Leak That Can't Be Wrong? is that why he's the leak bait?

 

[FixedFun]

... C-can we go back to analyzing the clouds?

 

[Nimbostratus]

To say Mystic is "flip-flopping" is a bit dramatic, but it's hard to argue that he has been a bit shaky in his word choice at points. Unfortunately, instead of giving the time for the poor guy to explain, we've hounded at every second by every avenue which just makes things even more confusing.
The best way to get a clear answer? For Smash fans to go to bed and leave the guy alone for a minute and let him gather his thoughts concisely in one place.
Speaking of which, that's exactly what I'm going to do.

 

[Astroworld]

Ranking Each Character in the Leak
Banjo kazooie - Eh, was kinda hoping for Steve 2/10

i hope this is sarcasm

 

[Rainierman]

I really hope...

I REALLY hope

Somebody actually makes a documentary of this, once it's all over. A REALLY GOOD one. Filled to the brim with these crazy details and good arguments that get shot down 1 hour later.

bit iffy on the timeline, but:

- The Da Grinchy Code, Season 1 -
Episode 1 - Blurry Beginnings
Episode 2 - A Shady Background
Episode 3 - People on the Inside
Episode 4 - Double Profiles
Episode 5 - Impersonation
Episode 6 - A Sprout of Hope
Episode 7 - Papa
Episode 8 - Not what it Seams
Episode 9 - Shrouded in Mystique
Episode 10 - ???
Episode 11 - ???
Episode 12 - ???
Finale - ???

He gets it.

 

[Z25]

Also if in the end insiders were given a fake banner by someone I'll laugh my ass off if they fell for it over the grinch one(if real).

Like how much of a mind **** would it be, if some guy( not even nintendo associated) made a convincing fake banner and sent it to insiders to **** with them.

The chaos of this arc would only getting better.

 

[cothero]

Let's forget about the leaks, just imagine spirit mode logo: "EVERYONE IS DEAD!"

 

[Michael the Spikester]

... C-can we go back to analyzing the clouds?

You mean like this one?

#Raymanconfirmed

 

[Starbound]

... C-can we go back to analyzing the clouds?

Or the chairs

 

[ShadowGamer193]

Being Team Hmm and having Isaac kinda confirmed really makes me feel kinda free from all of this nonsense

 

[CosmicQuark]

... C-can we go back to analyzing the clouds?

Hopefully that helps.

Indeed, those were more innocent times...

 

[Idon]

... C-can we go back to analyzing the clouds?

Sure.

Up-air is still broken. Pls fix.

 

[mbvswb]

guys let's think positive


no matter what happens, with all the doubt, with all the speculation of "is the banner real" and "if not than who isnt in the game?" and other stuff we have now been promised hype and surprise for every trailer

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Incineroar fans vs. Grinch Leak fans

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

... C-can we go back to analyzing the clouds?

At this point I'd take that over how the current discussion has been going for the past however many pages.

Someone either impersonating Berard or Berard himself
>getting away with making a fake leak at work without his managers noticing
>putting loads of detail into fake leak that most people wouldn't thinking of doing
>making sure to edit in the edges of separate bracelets

VS
>someone with no evidence other than his word being wrong, or his "sources" being wrong.

Sorry but I don't see how the above scenario is more likely.

Look dude, if you want to believe your straw-man argument, go ahead.

Incineroar fans vs. Grinch Leak fans

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Regardless of how this ends I will always appreciate the memes.

 

[Buzzwole]

LIVE from Nintendo HQ in Kyoto

I've said this before, but I still think Nintendo kind of did this to themselves.
The closer it gets to release day, the more likely things are going to leak. Its unfortunate, but its true. After the ESRB leak last time, I was sure they'd want to get information out themselves by revealing things a bit earlier than usual.

We are almost ONE MONTH away. I think by this point they should have at LEAST had all of the characters revealed officially. Maybe leave some things as surprises, but the roster should be public knowledge at this point in time.

If this leak isn't real, then a real one is not far off. Nintendo has to get moving asap.

 

[Fane]

please stop with this complex = legit. there are plenty of people out there with the time and resources to **** with gullible smash fans. and it's not like we can see up close how complex the leak is anyway. it's conveniently blurry and there's all sorts of visual flaws indicative of someone ****ing up. also why is incineroar the leak bait? why is it not isaac or the chorus kids or mach rider or some other character? is it because incineroar disproves the Holy Leak That Can't Be Wrong? is that why he's the leak bait?

There are plenty of people out in the world with the resources and materials that printing press companies have, as well as the skill to photoshop and create art of characters never seen before, and be able to have almost nothing worthwhile against their leak besides conflicting insider info? Who knew.

I'm not saying Incineroar IS leak bait. I'm saying it's a possibility.

I'm also saying this on account of IF the leak is real, thus not bringing up mural characters as 'leak bait'. Which is preposterous itself considering if the leak is real then none of them would be leak bait.

 

[KMDP]

E V E R Y O N E S A N I N S I D E R !

Are you suggesting a good old-fashioned witch hunt?

Because it's definitely the season for one.

Pitchforks are on sale right now for $12, but $5 if you also buy a torch (sold separately for $4).

Belted Capotains (the stereotypical Puritan hat) and American Settler Outfits are also on sale for a true Salem feeling.

 

[Iridium]

On a different note, the longer we go without a Robin blog post, the more I'm convinced we're definitely getting something new with him/her. Even Yoshi, too.

 

[ScottyWK]

Incineroar fans vs. Grinch Leak fans

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This is too perfect.

 

[Chrollo.]

Anyway, Zoroark and Genesect for DLC!

Impossible, I know. But I, Chrollo., have a dream that I know is just.

 

[SuperNintendoKid]

incineroar

no incineroar is innocent
we must sacrifice steve!

 

[Buzzwole]

On a different note, the longer we go without a Robin blog post, the more I'm convinced we're definitely getting something new with him/her. Even Yoshi, too.

I also was thinking that's why Diddy hasn't been shown. Before all this leak stuff I was positive it was because Dixie was being added as an echo and they changed up Diddy's final smash to something he could share with Dixie.
Now I don't know anymore.

Either way, quite a few of the characters that have yet to be posted on the blog have unknown final smashes. It is definitely interesting.

 

[Potato_]

On a different note, the longer we go without a Robin blog post, the more I'm convinced we're definitely getting something new with him/her. Even Yoshi, too.

I really think it's gonna be either Pair Up with Morgan, or

Spoiler: AWAKENING SPOILERS

Grima

The "pair up with various characters" idea feels weird to me, like who do you choose? Just Frederick and Lissa?

 

[Das Koopa]

lmao I'm out, I don't trust papa or mystic much and if we're left with that as our discussion I think we need a direct

 

[BluePikmin11]

I am starting to think by the time November rolls around, Sakurai will be finished with Ultimate development, focusing 100% on stopping leaks/rumors from spreading and creating the last Smash Ultimate direct of the year.

 

[Hinata]

On a different note, the longer we go without a Robin blog post, the more I'm convinced we're definitely getting something new with him/her. Even Yoshi, too.

Well, we know Robin has to get some edit to their Final Smash, and Yoshi's likely in the same boat because of how his old Final Smash worked.

Alongside that, we know Yoshi is getting that new Crafted World costume. Does that count?

 

[Fane]

Anyway, Zoroark and Genesect for DLC!

Impossible, I know. But I, Chrollo., have a dream that I know is just.

Don't worry! If Incineroar isn't in, I'm on the same ship of "Unlikely Pokemon that I really want in the game as playable" too!

I just want Sceptile and Golisopod

 

[Buzzwole]

lmao I'm out, I don't trust papa or mystic much and if we're left with that as our discussion I think we need a direct

A direct is all we can really rely on at this point. No matter how much theory crafting and digging people do, nothing is going to be confirmed until Nintendo says it themselves.

 

[Shroob]

I am starting to think by the time November rolls around, Sakurai will be finished with Ultimate development, focusing 100% on stopping leaks/rumors from spreading and creating the last Smash Ultimate direct of the year.

The final Direct is most likely filmed already and has been ready to go for awhile. They don't just film these a couple days before.

 

[DraginHikari]

Sheesh... everytime I turn around this thread has another 50+ pages. Yet not much more has actually been said lol

 

[TVDart]

I really hope...

I REALLY hope

Somebody actually makes a documentary of this, once it's all over. A REALLY GOOD one. Filled to the brim with these crazy details and good arguments that get shot down 1 hour later.



He gets it.

Best Guy Ever better make a video about this.