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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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osby

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I agree, but at the same time, Sakurai clearly has this fear of alienating fans even the slightest.
Considering how many people freaked out when Wolf and Ice Climbers didn't returned last game, I can get it.

Also, I don't have a problem with Sheik. Ganondorf also wasn't around for a decade and we can have two Zeldas if we can have three Links.
 
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This drought is dreadful. I just want Ultimate to release already so I can forget about my depression and "thoughts" have the best fun I've had in years playing a video game.
 

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That person that said there was an image leak that Nintendo didn't like

I mean, is there any image leaks out there, even ones that haven't been found fake, that people really believe?

Other than the Geno one

Nintendo being bothered from something that isn't widely believed doesn't seem appropriate.
 
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Considering how many people freaked out when Wolf and Ice Climbers didn't returned last game, I can get it.

Also, I don't have a problem with Sheik. Ganondorf also wasn't around for a decade and we can have two Zeldas if we can have three Links.
Or three Zeldas, one being Young Zelda and the other being Toon Zelda, but let's not go that far, shall we?
 

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Considering how many people freaked out when Wolf and Ice Climbers didn't returned last game, I can get it.

Also, I don't have a problem with Sheik. Ganondorf also wasn't around for a decade and we can have two Zeldas if we can have three Links.
My problem with Sheik is that she was never important even and only has her popularity due to being in Smash rather than the fact we have 2 Zeldas. If we're going to try to "represent" Zelda as they say, then Impa would probably be better while doing the same Sheikah things.
 

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Or three Zeldas, one being Young Zelda and the other being Toon Zelda, but let's not go that far, shall we?
Haha, yeah, what kind of weirdo wants yet another Zelda, toon version on top of that, it'd be really weird. *starts to sweat*
 
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My problem with Sheik is that she was never important even and only has her popularity due to being in Smash rather than the fact we have 2 Zeldas. If we're going to try to "represent" Zelda as they say, then Impa would probably be better while doing the same Sheikah things.
Honestly, we should just give Sheik's moveset to Impa next Smash game. Oh, and give Sheik's Melee chain to Impa too.
 

osby

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My problem with Sheik is that she was never important even and only has her popularity due to being in Smash rather than the fact we have 2 Zeldas. If we're going to try to "represent" Zelda as they say, then Impa would probably be better while doing the same Sheikah things.
Sheik has a miniscule importance as one of the most iconic plot twists in one of the most critically acclaimed games in video game history. Very small, but it's there.

Also we have a lot of characters became popular thanks to Smash: :ultroy::ultfalcon::ulticeclimbers:. Smash is also an important Nintendo game.

And if representing Zelda is so important, why not add Impa as an echo? I don't know how removing Sheik will improve the situation.
 

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So as @SonicMario suggested, here's what :ultyoshi: thinks of the first 12 fighter (including himself):

:ultmario: "My friend and partner!!! I'll do anything for him!!!"
:ultdk: "What's done is done. He's now like family to us even if he has other obligations"
:ultlink: "He looks funny"
:ultsamus: ".......... why is that robot thing staring at me? Is it one of Bowser's inventions?!!!"
:ultyoshi: "Well, I'm Yoshi and Yoshi is me!!!" (He doesn't brag about being the perfect being WHICH HE TOTALLY IS!!!)
:ultkirby: "He looks like one of those Mildes which I eat all the time, but with arms. I wonder if he tastes the same"
:ultfox: "I thought the Kitsune Suit didn't cover the face? I learn something new everyday!!!"
:ultpikachu: "I WANT TO HUG THAT THING!!!"
:ultluigi: "Of course I shouldn't forget about Luigi!!! I saved him when he was a baby after all"
:ultness: "He seems like a good boy. He shouldn't be playing with fire like that though..."
:ultfalcon: "That's the most bizarre creature I've ever seen. Why does it say 'Falcon' before doing anything?"
:ultjigglypuff: "I always wanted to see a cat balloon. Maybe if I mixed the Bell power-up with the Blimp fruit..."

Piggyback for:ultkrool: read this in the cartoon voice and or crocodile noises


:ultmario: "Ah yes the man that beat Donkey Kong Sr.

:ultdk: "DONKEY KONG!"

:ultlink:"A-are you some sort of blonde ape? Ah, look a cutlass! "

:ultsamus: " A barrel as an arm? GENIOUS!"

:ultyoshi: "Cousin? No hmmm maybe?"

:ultkirby: "A pink Coconut?"

:ultfox: "Ah, a Gnawty but in captain's get-up?"

:ultpikachu: " Yellow and Black? A Zinger in the shape of a Gnawty...? No, some sort of talking banana! "

:ultluigi: " What a great color, oh look at that vacuum, sucks up ghosts eh? Time to get rid of that old hag!"

:ultness: "Diddy Kong can float!"

:ultfalcon: "Meddlesome Flashy Kong!"

:ultjigglypuff: "A balloon coconut?"
 
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We need four Skull Kids.

I propose:

Skull Kid
Skull Kiddo
Skull Kid with Skull Mask
Skull Kid with Mario Mask

Skull Kiddo is faster Skull Kid.

Skull Mask is Skull Kid without Majora's moves and more forest stuff.

Mario Mask is Skull Kid with some moves copied from Mario including the Super Jump Punch.
 

Master of Fire

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ok so people question the magazine that leaked legitimate pokemon info for the past how many friggin years still then? ok.
I don't think anyone doubts that CoroCoro has leaked legitimate information before, but when they do they usually treat it as "special" or "new" info. They didn't do that with the 108 stage count. They just casually mentioned it (the only piece of new info) next to a picture showing 103 stages in a section about the August direct.

CoroCoro has had typos before (rarely), and so far as I know they never corrected them. Unfortunately, I think this is the most likely scenario.
 

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So assuming that we've seen the leak that has "ruffled nintendo's feathers", which one's are leading the way? From what I've seen it's the Geno head tilt and the Black Shadow one, have there been any new revelations?
 

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CoroCoro said 108, and some people claimed it was a typo because of how casually they revealed that. But CoroCoro hasn't issued any statements about that number being a typo like most people thought they would have.
I think if the CoroCoro count was a typo, and there were only 103 stages, Nintendo would have no problem clearing the record to avoid misinformation (why hide the final stage count... if it's already been revealed?). That being said, one reason why I'm concerned is all of Verge's leaked characters could technically come without a stage--Incineroar being a newcomer from a returning series, Ken being an echo, and if the SE rep is Geno he could technically fall under Mario's series. So given what we know/think is likely--it is possible 103 is it. But since we haven't had any correction, and it lines up with the menu/website, it does give me hope.

I honestly just wanna know who/what happened to the person that posted the Ken image leak.
Sakurai took care of them--personally.
 

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I don't think anyone doubts that CoroCoro has leaked legitimate information before, but when they do they usually treat it as "special" or "new" info. They didn't do that with the 108 stage count. They just casually mentioned it (the only piece of new info) next to a picture showing 103 stages in a section about the August direct.

CoroCoro has had typos before (rarely), and so far as I know they never corrected them. Unfortunately, I think this is the most likely scenario.
It being a typo without them saying so seems like the least likely scenario considering this isn't just an average typo, and could ruin their reputation.
 

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At this point they might as well just replace Sheik with Impa since there is no connection with Zelda anymore
Pretty much.
For me personally: Remove :ultsheik:, Add Impa
Nothing too major, but I think Impa deserved the spot more for being more prevalent in the Zelda series.
We need four Skull Kids.

I propose:

Skull Kid
Skull Kiddo
Skull Kid with Skull Mask
Skull Kid with Mario Mask

Skull Kiddo is faster Skull Kid.

Skull Mask is Skull Kid without Majora's moves and more forest stuff.

Mario Mask is Skull Kid with some moves copied from Mario including the Super Jump Punch.
You obviously forgot the most important one: Skull Kid w/ Link Mask
 

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I dare you guys a challenge. Rather then just the original 12. Everyone else too.
:ultkrool: what he thinks of everyone so far

:ultbowser: "Heh King of Koopa more like Turtle soup!"

:ultbowserjr: "The king has a brat huh, what's with the barrel?"

:ultfalco: "One of the those meddlesome 'buddies'"

:ultduckhunt:" What Buddies on buddies?"

:ultpacman:" Do you eat any kind of ghost?"

:ultwario: "Mario, no you're style is like a mirror to mine!"

:ultsimon:" A kong using whips?"

:ultsonic:" A blue Gnawty?"

:ultmetaknight:" A cannonball?"

:ultwiifittrainer:" Fit? I'm pleasantly robust!"

:ultvillager: "I'll plunder your town Kong!"

:ultwolf: " Oh, a pirate I see!"

:ultkingdedede: "King? You're not grand enough *slaps gut*"

:ultshulk: "See the future? Ha didn't see that cannonball did ya?"


:ultzss:" DIXIE KONG!"

:ultzelda: "TINY KONG!"

:ultdarksamus: "Oh... what are you?"

:ultgnw:" No... I've heard about you in granny Wrinkle's book, though you look weaker than in the pictures"

:ultsnake: "Kommando Kong eh?"

:ultganondorf:"King of evil? You're just a swine for saving my progress!"

:ultinkling:"An animal buddy? Woomy you say? Hmmm best stuff you in a barrel for safe measure."



Ran out of steam XD
 
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Black Shadow one? Do show.


This one, the only complaint I've seen so far is that Black Shadow is after Ridley which is a legitimate concern, but Nintendo must have so many builds that this could be some test one, and we don't know if the order gets scrambled during the character unlocking process.
 

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It being a typo without them saying so seems like the least likely scenario considering this isn't just an average typo, and could ruin their reputation.
I just found out there was a typo in the E3 Direct. It was supposed to say "Almost Everyone Is Here". Guess we'll have to wait until we get the game to find out who! :chuckle:
 

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This one, the only complaint I've seen so far is that Black Shadow is after Ridley which is a legitimate concern, but Nintendo must have so many builds that this could be some test one, and we don't know if the order gets scrambled during the character unlocking process.
Huh it does look legit but wouldn't surprise me if its one of those good fakes.
 

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Pretty much.




You obviously forgot the most important one: Skull Kid w/ Link Mask
Ah yes, Link Masked Skull Kid.

He would help promote the new The Legend of Zelda game, where the new Zelda is, once again, in trouble and needs Link to save her; this time, however, Link's spirit has reincarnated into a Skull Kid.

Or we just get the Skull Kid with a sword as the hero, that'd be cool too.
 

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You losers really spend money on apps? Get a lif-

Realizes I spent who knows how much on Pokemon Go, an app I don't even like.

...
It was I who had no life all along.
I've spent so much on apps that my parents had to put restrictions on my iPad to keep me from making in-app purchases.
 

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This one, the only complaint I've seen so far is that Black Shadow is after Ridley which is a legitimate concern, but Nintendo must have so many builds that this could be some test one, and we don't know if the order gets scrambled during the character unlocking process.
well they got his smile right
 
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So as @SonicMario suggested, here's what :ultyoshi: thinks of the first 12 fighter (including himself):

:ultmario: "My friend and partner!!! I'll do anything for him!!!"
:ultdk: "What's done is done. He's now like family to us even if he has other obligations"
:ultlink: "He looks funny"
:ultsamus: ".......... why is that robot thing staring at me? Is it one of Bowser's inventions?!!!"
:ultyoshi: "Well, I'm Yoshi and Yoshi is me!!!" (He doesn't brag about being the perfect being WHICH HE TOTALLY IS!!!)
:ultkirby: "He looks like one of those Mildes which I eat all the time, but with arms. I wonder if he tastes the same"
:ultfox: "I thought the Kitsune Suit didn't cover the face? I learn something new everyday!!!"
:ultpikachu: "I WANT TO HUG THAT THING!!!"
:ultluigi: "Of course I shouldn't forget about Luigi!!! I saved him when he was a baby after all"
:ultness: "He seems like a good boy. He shouldn't be playing with fire like that though..."
:ultfalcon: "That's the most bizarre creature I've ever seen. Why does it say 'Falcon' before doing anything?"
:ultjigglypuff: "I always wanted to see a cat balloon. Maybe if I mixed the Bell power-up with the Blimp fruit..."

Here is mine with :ultsonic:.

:ultmario:"We're pals now, even though we were rivals once."
:ultdk:"He can sure punch the moon, but my speed outshines that!"
:ultlink:"What a weirdo. Carrying all that stuff sure makes him slow."
:ultsamus:"How was I supposed to know it was a woman and not one of Eggman's robots?"
:ultyoshi:"Sure has a lot of energy. I admire that!"
:ultkirby:"So, he has a Warp Star that can move the speed of light, huh? I can top that!"
:ultfox:"He may punch and kick fast, but it's nothing if he can't hit me!"
:ultpikachu:"Electric speed? I'm all about the speed of sound and light combined! Cute, though."
:ultluigi:"I feel bad for him. He definitely needs more attention."
:ultness:"I wonder how this kid managed to get psychic powers?"
:ultfalcon:"Even in his Blue Falcon, he's still too slow!"
:ultjigglypuff:"A balloon with cat ears? Now I've seen everything..."
 
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