Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Rebellious Treecko]

I'm most hyped for the proper Bowser's Castle stage in the leak.

I hope it's a massive Temple/Pauletna's Temple-type stage with many fighting spots and hazards.

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[WaxPython]

I want Goku, Sora, Rayman, MasterChief, James Bond, Banjo and Kazzoie, Spyro, Crash, and Dante for third parties.

It will never happen but if it somehow does confirmed we live in the perfect timeline and smash becomes the best crossover in history

 

[Shadowwolflink]

Perfect dozen third parties?

Konami: Snake, Simon
Sega: Sonic, Bayonetta
Capcom: Mega Man, Ryu, Arthur
Namco: Pac-Man, Agumon
Square Enix: Cloud
Rare/Microsoft: Banjo-Kazooie
Wayforward: Shantae

 

[Johnknight1]

I want Goku, Sora, Rayman, MasterChief, James Bond, Banjo and Kazzoie, Spyro, Crash, and Dante for third parties.

It will never happen but if it somehow does confirmed we live in the perfect timeline and smash becomes the best crossover in history

My guy

We got Negan from The Walking Dead, Noctis from Final Fantasy XV, Akuma from Street Fighter and Geese Howard from Fatal Fury/King of Fighters in Tekken 7 + Yoda/Darth Vader from Star Wars in Soul Calibur IV + Female Terry Bogard in SNK Heroines + this:

We are in the "Anything can happen in fighting games" timeline.

 

[MainJPW]

K. Rool, Ashley, Shadow, Simon Belmont and Shantae.

All the Red Eyes and Tiredness you could hope for.

Someone made some art of "Redeye" candidates on Twitter.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

I like how Waluigi is making himself bloodshot just so he can fit in.

 

[Shroob]

I'm most hyped for the proper Bowser's Castle stage in the leak.

I hope it's a massive Temple/Pauletna's Temple-type stage with many fighting spots and hazards.

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You mean that 4chan leak?

Really iffy on that one tbh.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

As expected Vergeben's initial leak was all true, but I'd still advise caution when it comes to the information he's gotten later, there are all sorts of things that can go wrong for leakers in this industry, and with how he gets information gradually there's a higher chance of something wonky happening.

As for Simon himself, you need to get your head checked if you don't think he deserves it, the original Castlevania is the stuff of legends, and the series itself has had an enormous impact. He also brings a completely new theme into Smash, Castlevania itself is unlike anything that's in the game. I hope it's going to be the classic Simon, and I think it's going to be, but I'll be fine either way.

 

[Staarih]

I hope she's just an echo

Genuinely curious: why? I mean, if Isabelle is going to be in anyway, wouldn't it be better if she's unique?

Unless it's the "she wouldn't take time from some other character"-mentality.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Perfect dozen huh?

Konami:
Sega:
Namco: Heihachi
Square:
Capcom:
Ubisoft: Rayman
Bethesda: Doom Slayer
Microsoft: Banjo-Kazooie

I could add more because of how much I adore 3rd party choices but I'mma stick to the rules.

 

[Shroob]

Genuinely curious: why? I mean, if Isabelle is going to be in anyway, wouldn't it be better if she's unique?

Unless it's the "she wouldn't take time from some other character"-mentality.

I honestly think Isabelle would be an Echo as well.

Honestly, Villager's moves fit her perfectly, from her running and dropping a potted plant, to her growing a tree, to catch something with a bug net, Echo just fits her to be honest.

 

[KMDP]

Someone made some art of "Redeye" candidates on Twitter.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

I like how Waluigi is making himself bloodshot just so he can fit in.

That art is cool.

I like K. Rool. XD (And, yes, Waluigi)

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

As expected Vergeben's initial leak was all true, but I'd still advise caution when it comes to the information he's gotten later, there are all sorts of things that can go wrong for leakers in this industry, and with how he gets information gradually there's a higher chance of something wonky happening.

As for Simon himself, you need to get your head checked if you don't think he deserves it, the original Castlevania is the stuff of legends, and the series itself has had an enormous impact. He also brings a completely new theme into Smash, Castlevania itself is unlike anything that's in the game. I hope it's going to be the classic Simon, and I think it's going to be, but I'll be fine either way.

Deserving is entirely subjective. Nobody needs to get their head checked. Let's be respectful to others about having different opinions, okay?

I want him in too(and not because of his legacy, but because I want the entire Captain N crew where possible).

 

[CrusherMania1592]

I’m soon off to bed dreaming about the Direct

Lord help me when I dream of K Rool and Dixie

 

[Jetsurge]

You mean that 4chan leak?

Really iffy on that one tbh.

I don't think it's real. There's no big new mode to really sell people on the game. It's just all returning modes. The fact that it says Simon means nothing because he has been heavily rumored for a while after Verge.

 

[Staarih]

I honestly think Isabelle would be an Echo as well.

Honestly, Villager's moves fit her perfectly, from her running and dropping a potted plant, to her growing a tree, to catch something with a bug net, Echo just fits her to be honest.

Fair enough I guess.

Personally I'm not sure if being an echo really "fits" any character, as anyone could be made unique... but seeing as they're essentially intended to be quickies to pad out the roster, I'll look past it. Isabelle could go either way imo, I feel like she's got potential to be unique, but I kinda see where the echo-stuff comes from as well. Guess it depends on how Sakurai sees her.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Simon's cool and all but I can't help but now I don't feel too interested on the Direct since the big surprise's been spoiled (which ironically wouldn't end up not surprise at all ) and rest of it is implied to be reveals about rehashed modes from 3DS/Wii U.

Might probably hope they show Richter as one of the Alts for Simon...

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I don't think it's real. There's no big new mode to really sell people on the game. It's just all returning modes. The fact that it says Simon means nothing because he has been heavily rumored for a while after Verge.

The only thing it got right was the song, and only half right. Bloody Tears is hardly hard to guess as a song and all.

I'm not going to put much stock into it. Two adventure modes already sounds farfetched. One, sure. Two? Ehhhhhh, probably not. I don't expect any beyond Melee-style either(as that's a lot easier to make. SSE was great, but sweet mercy did it take up development time).

 

[blazefan519]

So I wake up at just about 4am in the morning cuz my sleeping schedule is ****ing wack and decide to check YouTube, only for their to be a GameXplain and Source Gaming vid about a music leak pretty much confirming Simon to be a character. Sigh, who the hell is running the Smash Blog?

 

[MSmariosonic]

6 hours and 5 minutes left to go

come on already!

 

[Delzethin]

Six hours to go.

So many hopes hang in the balance. Each of us can only hope our most wanted newcomers survive unscathed...

...Well, other than the Simon fans. They can all but rest easy, heh.

 

[KMDP]

-6 Hours Remain-

The direct is descending fast, hypequakes are increasing in frequency; with the Direct comes inevitable Disconfirmations.

Some run away, others cower in fear, others still stand tall and shout to the heavens.

Only one man can save us.

 

[WaxPython]

Red eyes huh?

Red eyes black dragon confirmed?

 

[MSmariosonic]

Sigh, who the hell is running the Smash Blog?

One things for sure

He isn't running the smash blog anymore

The dude got fired faster than bullets on a gatling gun

 

[blazefan519]

One things for sure

He isn't running the smash blog anymore

The dude got fired faster than bullets on a gatling gun

Rip that guy kek. So I guess that means that Isabelle is also confirmed then too, since it was by the same source. The Pokemon and DK rep thing is thankfully still up for debate.

 

[Wambo]

Calling it now, Simon's trailer is going to be animated like the Castlevania series.

Also, I hope whoever leaked that video gets SUPER fired.

 

[blazefan519]

So Simon will without a doubt be the "We have one more announcement before we go." character. Does anyone believe we may get another fighter announced or just Simon?

edit: Also realized the change in discussion name, hoping the people who wanted to avoid spoilers left a long time ago

 

[MSmariosonic]

So Simon will without a doubt be the "We have one more announcement before we go." character. Does anyone believe we may get another fighter announced or just Simon?

I can see us getting atleast 2 echo fighters revealed.

 

[KMDP]

So Simon will without a doubt be the "We have one more announcement before we go." character. Does anyone believe we may get another fighter announced or just Simon?

Actually, I think Simon will be the 66th character (because "lol 666"). If we only get two original characters in this direct, he'd have to be the first.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Red eyes huh?

Red eyes black dragon confirmed?

He's a Ridley echo

 

[Shroob]

Actually, I think Simon will be the 66th character (because "lol 666"). If we only get two original characters in this direct, he'd have to be the first.

I mean, Echo fighters aren't technically added to the number count, so Simon could still be 66 even if Isabelle were shown first.

 

[blazefan519]

Actually, I think Simon will be the 66th character (because "lol 666"). If we only get two original characters in this direct, he'd have to be the first.

I actually want him to be the first reveal so the "big surprise" isn't something we've been spoiled to twice now kek. But he still could be the last reveal because Echoes do not have their own numbers.

 

[Staarih]

So Simon will without a doubt be the "We have one more announcement before we go." character. Does anyone believe we may get another fighter announced or just Simon?

I'm thinking some minor character or echo is possible. Simon will no doubt be the big reveal, and the website will update to accommodate the Castlevania-series and all that jazz. The other character could be from an existing series which could be easily added to the site with ready assets.
Good point on Simon being likely #66, so either a character after him or an echo which shares the number with its base character.

 

[KMDP]

I mean, Echo fighters aren't technically added to the number count, so Simon could still be 66 even if Isabelle were shown first.

Remembered Echoes existed after I made my post. XD

 

[MSmariosonic]

I can't wait till we see the 69th character

the memes are going to meme themselves

 

[AzureFlame4]

I'm kinda hoping they announce that Alph will now be an echo fighter instead of an alt costume.

 

[blazefan519]

I can't wait till we see the 69th character

the memes are going to meme themselves

Imagine it being Ashley. I'd legit die of laughter.

I'm kinda hoping they announce that Alph will now be an echo fighter instead of an alt costume.

He was shown in Olimar's character trailer. I'd imagine if they wanted him to be an echo, they wouldn't have done that.

 

[Shroob]

I'm kinda hoping they announce that Alph will now be an echo fighter instead of an alt costume.

Already confirmed an alt costume.

 

[Zippo]

Which one do you guys prefer?
https://youtu.be/_ApRCAzj2fw
Or
https://youtu.be/9AiDRCOyktw

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Already confirmed an alt costume.

Not exactly. We see strong implications of it via Olimar's page, but we have no demo or actual showing off Oilmar switching costumes in any video to prove it.

I still think it's an alt costume, and it's a pretty safe bet it is. But confirmed is a very inaccurate way to say it.

We have circumstancial evidence, really. Not hard enough to prove it, but good enough to feel it's a safe guess.

 

[blazefan519]

Which one do you guys prefer?
https://youtu.be/_ApRCAzj2fw
Or
https://youtu.be/9AiDRCOyktw

I like them both honestly. Smash 4 always gave you that hype when you saw the flames and then the heartbeat, but Ultimate just cuts straight to it, you know it's about to go down. I'm really liking Ultimate's simplistic approach and I hope it stays as a theme.