Smash in Peru (27 August - 03 September)

[KeroKeroppi]

Who's the best in Tacna now?

I am.

 

[Nearjack]

I am.

hahaha You are funny lol

 

[Nearjack]

Best in Peru is still Gerson...oops double post

 

[KeroKeroppi]

Someone please ban this spammer.

 

[madrush21]

I wana go to peru with y'all but no passport yet and I have the cash and speak Spanish, id gift them controllers an oc and gameshark, grease knowledge too

Get a passport yooooo

http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/passports/new.html

 

[weedwack]

Bring some decent recording equipment.

If you guys bring back shaky handheld videos I'm demanding a hype refund.

 

[clubbadubba]

I thought peruvians were all saying Orlando is the best now

Also kinda wanna go...

 

[KnitePhox]

o**** gift them a dazzle amd streaming equipment PWN

 

[Battlecow]

Yeah I thought it was all about Orlando

But I guess nearjack is to be trusted

 

[mixa]

hype refund

we need this technology so bad
like
so bad

 

[MrMarbles]

Yeah I thought it was all about Orlando

But I guess nearjack is to be trusted

it IS all about Orlando

 

[Karajan]

everyone in Peru says they are the best in peru

 

[Sedda]

This thread is going to become into a 20+ people hype fest where everyone will claim that they're gonna go, then only Boom goes and he doesn't attend the tournament "because of illness."

 

[Battlecow]

Yo boom you better do some work at least on their B-tier

I ain't tryna see NA go down to anyone besides gerson or alvin or orlando or marca or papacho or holy **** they have a lot of good players

 

[Sedda]

Yeah I saw someone (probably a melee player) somewhere say something along the lines of "doesnt 64 only have like 3 top players lulz." They don't even know.

 

[M!nt]

How's it even possible to not have more than 3 top players. That would require we only have 3 players total lol

 

[clubbadubba]

I mean, melee only has 5 top players and one of them is retired so who are they kidding

 

[The Star King]

It all depends on how you define top player.

 

[Sedda]

I'm pretty sure they mean m2k kinda top. In which case, they have WAAAAY less players than we do

 

[B Link]

speaking of M2K I would love to see a camp battle of him vs gerson, they both like to camp on opposite ends so it might be interesting lol

 

[clubbadubba]

Well 64 tippity top is like:

Isai
Jousuke
Gerson
Orlando?
More Peruvians?
Allegedly Bear?

 

[Sedda]

Well 64 tippity top is like:

GMANG
Isai
Jousuke
Gerson
Orlando?
More Peruvians?
Allegedly Bear?

fixed.

What about Boom, Red, Moyashi? I feel like Isai is the melee Armada, except much better. Then the other top players kinda fall on the same spot as the Melee top 4, and we have a lot more of those than Melee does.

 

[mixa]

Isai doesn't have counterparts in other games, I'd say. Also, I'm pretty grateful for the personalities of our top players.

Top melee personalities can be pretty amusing, but could you imagine if Boom were all like LMAOOOOOO ISIA U SUCK LOOOL on the boards? or if Isai were like "I major in psychology so I'll grow a giant beard to make my opponents uncounsciously intimidated. I'm so tryhard. I think I give pretty good interviews, heh", or if JaimeHR were like FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER LIKE FACEBOOK LIKE MONEY SPONSOR NINTENDO CAREER SMASH 5 (ARE U A DOCTOR?) MAKE A FAKE FACEBOOK ACCOUNT AND LIKE ME THERE TOO!!!

or if Battlecow started doing silly faces on commentary cam just to become a twitch face / meme? 64 community is chill

 

[Sedda]

You just reminded me..
https://www.facebook.com/mewtwoking
Dont forget to follow M2K on fb

 

[Shears]

Isai doesn't have counterparts in other games, I'd say. Also, I'm pretty grateful for the personalities of our top players.

Top melee personalities can be pretty amusing, but could you imagine if Boom were all like LMAOOOOOO ISIA U SUCK LOOOL on the boards? or if Isai were like "I major in psychology so I'll grow a giant beard to make my opponents uncounsciously intimidated. I'm so tryhard. I think I give pretty good interviews, heh", or if JaimeHR were like FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER LIKE FACEBOOK LIKE MONEY SPONSOR NINTENDO CAREER SMASH 5 (ARE U A DOCTOR?) MAKE A FAKE FACEBOOK ACCOUNT AND LIKE ME THERE TOO!!!

or if Battlecow started doing silly faces on commentary cam just to become a twitch face / meme? 64 community is chill

I've been saying this for a while and its one thing that drew me from brawl to 64. The community here is way more fun and cool and relaxed and genuine than the other games. No matter how "pro" someone is, they're still a good person and fun to be around and willing to talk and hang out with anyone. Its real people, having fun, playing a game they love. If you want to hear a rant about the differences between the 64 community and the other games, ask @ The Star King (he's in love with the melee boards).

 

[clubbadubba]

What about Boom, Red, Moyashi? I feel like Isai is the melee Armada, except much better. Then the other top players kinda fall on the same spot as the Melee top 4, and we have a lot more of those than Melee does.

Red perhaps, but he is retired if I remember correctly.

Do you think Boom and Moyashi have a significant chance of taking a set off of high tier Isai? They certainly have infinitely more of a chance than I do, but I still don't think its very significant. Just based off of 12 char battles of isai vs boom, and Isai high tiers vs kikoushi who is around the same level as boom and moyashi, They are just not quite there. When I say tippity top, I mean the best players in the game that when you pit them against each other it would be a coin flip as to who wins, like when the top 5 4 in melee play each other.

 

[Battlecow]

Armada's not on top in melee anymore

Gerson's not at all far from isai's level as of the last data point we have, and there's every indication that there are a couple of peruvians who can hang with him, as can jousuke (that's all super conjecture-y, granted, but eh. I think isai would prolly bop jousuke but if you go all the way to japan and then don't enter the tourney I gotta give them the nod regardless). So at least 4-5 tippity toppity players.

Boom/Moyashi are analogous to like MacD or Silent Wolf or someone on that level

64 community is way better than melee community and 64 is way better than melee but then that goes without saying

 

[Cobrevolution]

Red perhaps, but he is retired if I remember correctly.

japanese guys said red isn't that good

FAUST is 2nd best in terms of 12cb though, besides jousuke

 

[Karajan]

Well, (J) version of smash is a lot harder than (U), since there is less DI and hence mistakes get punished way more. Its like every matchup is a falcon ditto.
Knowing that, look at their Tournament format:
Single elimination, 4 stock, DL only, top 8 or 16 bracket is semi-random. For Jousuke to consistently dominate with a character that sits on their tier list at about the same level Mario/DK sits on the (U) tier list, clearly shows he is a better smash player than Isai. Oh, and Isai lost a 12 char by 2 characters against him. Ya'll know Josuke's best character isn't samus right?
The J version and tournament format breeds tons of really good players.

If you had 2 round robin things, one with J version and one with U version, best of 1, and used some consistent scoring system, I think the top 7 would look like this:
Josuke
Isai
Moyashi
Prince
Superboom
Orlando
Gerson

I am going to Peru to figure out who the best in Peru is. Boom is my standard measuring stick. Probably going to Japan next year for smash also.

 

[Sangoku]

Clubba, Bear doesn't play either, so if you don't include Red, you shouldn't include him. And to be honest, even at his peak I doubt he was better than boom. I really wonder what Peru vs Japan would be like.

 

[Karajan]

I really wonder what Peru vs Japan will be like.

fixed it for you

 

[MrMarbles]

Well, (J) version of smash is a lot harder than (U), since there is less DI and hence mistakes get punished way more. Its like every matchup is a falcon ditto.
Knowing that, look at their Tournament format:
Single elimination, 4 stock, DL only, top 8 or 16 bracket is semi-random. For Jousuke to consistently dominate with a character that sits on their tier list at about the same level Mario/DK sits on the (U) tier list, clearly shows he is a better smash player than Isai. Oh, and Isai lost a 12 char by 2 characters against him. Ya'll know Josuke's best character isn't samus right?
The J version and tournament format breeds tons of really good players.

If you had 2 round robin things, one with J version and one with U version, best of 1, and used some consistent scoring system, I think the top 7 would look like this:
Josuke
Isai
Moyashi
Prince
Superboom
Orlando
Gerson

I am going to Peru to figure out who the best in Peru is. Boom is my standard measuring stick. Probably going to Japan next year for smash also.

i suspect that you are under-rating Peru. we will see soon enough!

 

[Cobrevolution]

Ya'll know Josuke's best character isn't samus right?

moyashi and ruoka said jousuke samus is THE best

 

[Sedda]

Armada's not on top in melee anymore

-_- sigh

guys, I meant that, when he was more active, he was clearly on top´. That's the way I feel Isai is with the other top players. They can compete with him, but he's better. You guys take analogies too seriously lol

 

[Battlecow]

Well, (J) version of smash is a lot harder than (U), since there is less DI and hence mistakes get punished way more. Its like every matchup is a falcon ditto.
Knowing that, look at their Tournament format:
Single elimination, 4 stock, DL only, top 8 or 16 bracket is semi-random. For Jousuke to consistently dominate with a character that sits on their tier list at about the same level Mario/DK sits on the (U) tier list, clearly shows he is a better smash player than Isai. Oh, and Isai lost a 12 char by 2 characters against him. Ya'll know Josuke's best character isn't samus right?
The J version and tournament format breeds tons of really good players.

If you had 2 round robin things, one with J version and one with U version, best of 1, and used some consistent scoring system, I think the top 7 would look like this:
Josuke
Isai
Moyashi
Prince
Superboom
Orlando
Gerson

I am going to Peru to figure out who the best in Peru is. Boom is my standard measuring stick. Probably going to Japan next year for smash also.

Oh you are just so wrong lol

How are you gonna watch Gerson take 8/21 against pika/fox and watch moyashi get absolutely ****ed by the jiggs and then make that list?

The only explanation I can come up with is like cultural bias? Are you a big fan of Japan or something?

Jousuke's record is super impressive but to say that the J tournament format breeds good players is nonsensical. They didn't get good because of the incredibly jank 2 or 3 tourney matches a year that most of them get. Japanese tourneys are the product of a community that has no ****ing idea what they're doing.

Isai's record against japan's second-best player (against a character lower on our tier list than samus is on theirs) says that he could probably squash a japanese tourney just like jousuke with his own secondaries. If you're good enough you don't have to lose even the one four stock.

IDK maybe I'm underrating the version differences. But I only care about (U) anyways because that's the game I play.

 

[Cobrevolution]

the battlecow america bias is so strong

 

[Battlecow]

more like the peru bias

I'm not the one putting boom above Gerson lol no offense boom

or the anti-japan bias

get prince offa that listttttt

 

[AlanCiTuAndPope20]

TO BE HONEST MOST OF PERUVIANS STILL BELIEVE GERZON IS THE BEST. ORLANDO JUST GOT THE CHAMPIONSHIP IN A TOURNEY WHICH DOESN'T PROVE ANYTHING. GALANCITU PLAYED ORLANDO SOME MONTHS AGO AND BEAT HIM IN MORE MATCHES. GALANCITU(FOX) VS ORLANDO(KIRBY). SO STRONGLY BELIEVE GERZON IS STILL THE BEST. OTHERS SAY YIYO COULD BE THE BEST SINCE NOBODY HAS BEEN ABLE TO BEAT HIM RECENTLY. NOT EVEN TACNA PLAYERS.

 

[Han Solo]

Comparing Boom to MacD/Silent Wolf is a huge insult to Boom. Boom is more like Hax or Shroomed, maybe even Hungrybox.

 

[clubbadubba]

Didn't play see ruoka's interview w han? Tacos > prince