Social Smash 4 Social Topic 2.0

[Kenith]

And then in the Japanese version of Brawl, Snake's pummel is like a rubber ducky squeaking.

That mental image is quite funny because I take everything literally.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

So with this talk of Smash chanting, I've been thinking.

With alternate costumes of different characters, will the crowd chant the base character's name, or will they actually chant the costume's name.

For example, if Dr. Mario is a costume for Mario, will the crowd chant " MA-RI-O! MA-RI-O!" or will they chant "DOC-TOR MARIO! DOC-TOR MARIO!"

 

[FlappyFalco]

A few more ideas:

MII RIKE TO PRAY!

STAY FAST, SON-IC!

THAT'S OUR FAL-CO!

PAC, PAC, PAC, PAC-MAN!

 

[Louie G.]

The crowd should chant something that Captain Falcon says in game.

Like "Fal-con PAWNCH" or "Show me your moves!"

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Hmm, all this talk about audience chants is pretty interesting. I wonder how the following would be chanted in Smash

Optimus Prime
Harry Potter
Captain Jack Sparrow
Percy Jackson
Shrek

 

[Phaazoid]

Well, I mean, they're not bad, they just don't have the "fluidity" of Melee's sounds.
I don't remember what Smash 64 sounded like, so I can't say.

64 sounded really over the top. Go look it up real quick on youtube, it's fairly easy to recognize once you hear it. Personally I love it xD

 

[Deleted member]

You know, I'm still waiting for Smash Bros. to have a joke character on the same level as the Gonk Droid from Lego Star Wars.

A character that:

• Has no abilities of any kind
• Moves slower than a snail's pace
• Can't jump
• Can't attack
• Can't be damaged
• When force pushed, just falls over for about 5 seconds
• Requires the "Self Destruct" extra in order to be able to do anything. Self Destruct does exactly what you would expect.

It would be so funny to have a character this laughably bad in Smash.

 

[Kenith]

Hmm, all this talk about audience chants is pretty interesting. I wonder how the following would be chanted in Smash

Optimus Prime
Harry Potter
Captain Jack Sparrow
Percy Jackson
Shrek

.......

....They wouldn't.

 

[Louie G.]

Man this is a fun discussion, and ideas are flowing into my mind...

"Gotta go fast" would be amazing for Sonic.

 

[Kenith]

64 sounded really over the top. Go look it up real quick on youtube, it's fairly easy to recognize once you hear it. Personally I love it xD

Oh yeah, I could see why you like those. Certainly memorable.
I especially love how Link's tiny bombs sound like an nuclear reactor going off.

 

[Deleted member]

Mii Fighter: "WASTE OF SPACE. 3 CHARACTER SPOTS WASTED ON MII? NOBODY LIKES THIS CHARACTER. NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY AS MII. HOW DID THEY GET IN OVER RIDLEY AND K. ROOL™? UNDESERVING. ANOTHER SWORD CHARACTER? TOO MANY MII PIC OF DAYS!"



I actually have no problems with Miis

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Either way, since I won't be able to catch the stream, is it going to be uploaded to YouTube?

 

[Phaazoid]

Oh yeah, I could see why you like those. Certainly memorable.
I especially love how Link's tiny bombs sound like an nuclear reactor going off.

Can you imagine if they took that approach with the newer items, like the X bomb? xD

Mii Fighter: "WASTE OF SPACE. 3 CHARACTER SPOTS WASTED ON MII? NOBODY LIKES THIS CHARACTER. NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY AS MII. HOW DID THEY GET IN OVER RIDLEY AND K. ROOL™? UNDESERVING. ANOTHER SWORD CHARACTER? TOO MANY MII PIC OF DAYS!"



I actually have no problems with Miis

If mii's waste 3 slots on 1, Ridley would be wasting like 400 on 1. because he's so big.

 

[Frostwraith]

I've stated this before and it never hurts saying it again, but the characters act much more like how they are in the original games compared to previous Smash games. The art direction, color choice, new moves and new animations helped a lot in achieving that.

Special mentions:
Bowser - His stance and coloring match how he has been since the early 2000's.
Yoshi - More or less the same as above. Anyway, Yoshi has always been quite faithful to his appearance in his own games.
Luigi - New jumping animation and use of the Poltergust was long overdue.
Toon Link - The art direction does wonders to him.
Pit - This is kind of unfair, since his Brawl self was pretty much made up, but after Uprising, he's become a well-rounded character and all those traits are present in this game.
Palutena - Like Pit, her character became much more established in Uprising and Smash 4 shows it well.
King Dedede - Much more goofier than his Brawl self. The art direction also did wonders to him.
Ike - His look from Radiant Dawn fits his moveset much better and his flames being turned to blue made certain made-up attacks feel more natural to him.
Robin - Pretty much his FE:A self.
Lucina - See Robin.

 

[Kenith]

Mii Fighter: "WASTE OF SPACE. 3 CHARACTER SPOTS WASTED ON MII? NOBODY LIKES THIS CHARACTER. NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY AS MII. HOW DID THEY GET IN OVER RIDLEY AND K. ROOL™? UNDESERVING. ANOTHER SWORD CHARACTER? TOO MANY MII PIC OF DAYS!"



I actually have no problems with Miis

I don't care if the Miis take up three movesets.

I just think that they're ugly, especially compared to the other, real fighters.

 

[Louie G.]

As much as I love the SFX from past Smash games, I'm a little disappointed to hear reused voices from Brawl.
It could just be because of the early build, but I don't know. I prefer fresh new voices for the characters.

And I agree with @ Frostwraith that the characters included in Smash are very true to their source material.
And they look amazing. Cartoony or realistic, the character models blend together surprisingly well.

 

[Kenith]

As much as I love the SFX from past Smash games, I'm a little disappointed to hear reused voices from Brawl.
It could just be because of the early build, but I don't know. I prefer fresh new voices for the characters.

It probably IS because of the early build.

After all, they did have Diddy Kong's Brawl icon in the Smash Direct...
Besides, a lot of the old voices won't fit the characters now, namely Bowser.

 

[Cap'nChreest]

Brawl had flimsy sound effects. I don't really remember one I like.

Smash 4's sword sound effects are great though.

Each hit in this game is like

 

[Frostwraith]

It may seem trivial, but changing Ike's flames to blue was one of the best things they could have made for this game, especially for people who have played the Fire Emblem games he stars in.

To elaborate, he never uses flame attacks in any of the games. This, combined with how Eruption was supposedly meant to be a new move for Roy, felt tacked in.

The reason why blue flames make a lot of sense despite the attack being the same:

Spoiler: Actual spoiler, even though Smash is pretty much a spoiler crusher, but whatever

To defeat Ashera, Ike receives the blessings of Yune, whose power manifests as blue flames, like when she was sealed in Lehran's Medallion, which was appropriately known as the Fire Emblem. As Ashera is about to be defeated, Yune gives all of her power to Ike and his sword becomes covered in blue flames.

Ike becomes known as the Hero of the Blue Flames afterwards.

With this change, what was a once tacked in attack, becomes an allusion to Radiant Dawn's ending, fitting with his character.

And yeah, the reused voice clips are likely due to being an earlier build. Things like that are subject to change.

 

[Kenith]

Brawl had flimsy sound effects. I don't really remember one I like.

Smash 4's sword sound effects are great though.

Each hit in this game is like

Oh, damn, that is going to be so satisfying to hear when I use it

As Lucina.

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

Dang, the DK Rap is lyrical genius.

"Can pick up a boulder with relative ease, makes crushing rocks seem such a breeze"

Like, does it get any better?

There is one part that always made me laugh:

"His Coconut Gun can fire in spurts!
If he shoots YA... it's gonna HURT!"

 

[FalKoopa]

Finally; Shulk's soundbank is complete. except I don't have the vision sound effect from Xenoblade Now for the extremely tedious part; making him actually play the sound! *groan*

Are you making a Shulk PSA or something?

 

[TewnLeenk]

There is one part that always made me laugh:

"His Coconut Gun can fire in spurts!
If he shoots YA... it's gonna HURT!"

That one always gets me.
Or "He has no style, he has no grace. This Kong, has a funny face."
Pure genius.

 

[Deleted member]

Are you making a Shulk PSA or something?

Nope. I'm using someone else's. I'm just setting him up over a clone slot and would like him to have his own voice rather than stealing Ike's.

Unrelated, but your avatar is wonderful.

 

[Kenith]

That one always gets me.
Or "He has no style, he has no grace. This Kong, has a funny face."
Pure genius.

I listen to that song a lot less than I am comfortable admitting.

 

[dimensionsword64]

Hey guys, I made a social forum where you can make support threads for unlikely characters.

Please check it out!

http://smashboards.com/social-forums/unlikely-character-support-threads.1713/

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

A few more ideas:

MII RIKE TO PRAY!

STAY FAST, SON-IC!

THAT'S OUR FAL-CO!

THE PAC IS BACK, PAC-MAN!

Fix'd for Pac Man's accuracy.

 

[FalKoopa]

Nope. I'm using someone else's. I'm just setting him up over a clone slot and would like him to have his own voice rather than stealing Ike's.

Can I get a link to Shulk PSA? :3

Unrelated, but your avatar is wonderful.

Well, since everyone was changing to something Madoka related, I decided to play along. And I stumbled upon one with glasses and a scarf. Couldn't pass it up.

 

[Deleted member]

Fix'd for Pac Man's accuracy.

Oh god no...

Can I get a link to Shulk PSA? :3


Well, since everyone was changing to something Madoka related, I decided to play along. And I stumbled upon one with glasses and a scarf. Couldn't pass it up.

Right here: http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Moderated=All&Reported=All&Wifi=0&Featured=All&Name=shulk&ByUser=&Credit=&Info=&AudioSource=&MainType=Character&SubtypeSearch=and&Subtype[]=PSA&Target=-1

 

[Phaazoid]

Hey guys, I made a social forum where you can make support threads for unlikely characters.

Please check it out!

http://smashboards.com/social-forums/unlikely-character-support-threads.1713/

I thought you could do that in the normal character discussion forums.

I mean, there's a shovel knight thread, and I run the shy guy thread. Neither of them are getting in, lol.

 

[Kenith]

Has anyone actually listened to the Opening theme for Pac-man and the Ghostly Adventures?
Or actually watched the show in general?

...it's one of those kid shows where I feel like my intelligence is being insulted for being in it's presence.

 

[Deleted member]

Wow. Game crashed when I selected Shulk, so I thought the filesize of his soundbank might've been too large. So I check the SFX folder, and I never even added his soundbank.

META RIDLEY'S SOUNDBANK IS TOO BIG.

 

[Hong]

One of the aspects I loathe if I ever have to work with realistic games is people expect realistic sound effects. In this day and age, we've advanced really fast in the world of audio technology, so sound effects like the breaking of bones are really common knowledge in the trade and easy to recreate. It's so very boring.

But if you are not working with a realistic product, you have so much creative liberty and it's a real shame when game developers go for realistic sounds even when they don't need to without thinking about it. Like, if you look at the 8-bit era of gaming in particular, the sound effects were just so much more satisfying. Like when Simon Belmont whips a skeleton or when the Mega Buster scraps another robot... they always have memorable and satisfying sound effects. It was hard to have anything realistic back then, and it forced people to be more imaginative.

Of course, some modern and realistic sound effects people enjoy, such as the sound of rain or the pumping of a shotgun to be popular examples. It's up to the discretion of the game developer to pick and choose.

Also, I agree. @ FalKoopa always has cute avatars.

 

[dimensionsword64]

I thought you could do that in the normal character discussion forums.

I mean, there's a shovel knight thread, and I run the shy guy thread. Neither of them are getting in, lol.

Well, part of it is that I, and possibly some other people feel wrong posting a support thread for some characters because there's no way they're getting in, so I think it might be nice to have those threads in a social group.

Also, Shovel Knight and Shy Guys actually have a chance, albeit a small one. I'm talking more people like Henry, or Onix.

 

[Phaazoid]

Well, part of it is that I, and possibly some other people feel wrong posting a support thread for some characters because there's no way they're getting in, so I think it might be nice to have those threads in a social group.

Also, Shovel Knight and Shy Guys actually have a chance, albeit a small one. I'm talking more people like Henry, or Onix.

Incorrect, Shovel Knight does not stand a chance. He's not a Nintendo character, and his game only recently came out, and it's the first. Shy guys may have an astronomically small chance, but I guess that one is still technically possible. He's in the same catagory as henry and onix.

 

[FalKoopa]

Also, Shovel Knight and Shy Guys actually have a chance, albeit a small one. I'm talking more people like Henry, or Onix.

Being buried inside a Social Group won't really grant them much attention though.

 

[dimensionsword64]

Incorrect, Shovel Knight does not stand a chance. He's not a Nintendo character, and his game only recently came out, and it's the first. Shy guys may have an astronomically small chance, but I guess that one is still technically possible. He's in the same catagory as henry and onix.

Eh, I guess that's true.

Being buried inside a Social Group won't really grant them much attention though.

I don't really care about them getting attention. They're not getting in, no matter how much attention they have. I just want to support a character without feeling like I just made a support thread for a character with virtually no chance just for the heck of it.

 

[Phaazoid]

Eh, I guess that's true.

I'm not trying to put a negative spin on your group or something, I was just trying to make a distinction. Sorry if I came off as overly negative there.

 

[dimensionsword64]

I'm not trying to put a negative spin on your group or something, I was just trying to make a distinction. Sorry if I came off as overly negative there.

Oh, no, you didn't. It's fine.

 

[Kenith]

I just want to support a character without feeling like I just made a support thread for a character with virtually no chance just for the heck of it.

But...is that not what you're doing?