Social Smash 4 Social Thread 5.0: ITT - ANYTHING CAN CHANGE! Including the page we end at.

[Still~Wolf]

Oi, I'm physically exhausted, and quite sick, so I think I shall take my leave as well.
Slay the flies, remember Dio is always the cause, and memento mori.

(night fella's. )

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

I feel bad. I heard a friend was planning on going to the same town I was planning on going to after a wedding, so I tried to see if he was going for the same reason I was. If he was, we could have carpooled. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case.

I feel bad for getting his hopes up...

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Night,

OH!!! PUN-TALITY!!!!!

 

[Rysir]

That's the thing. Sakurai just outright kept Ridley from being playable just because of moveset.

Swordsman? Eh. Telekinetic, alchemic... Whoop-dee-Tingle-doo. Nobody cares what he's powered by. Explosions? Link, TL, Jr, Samus, Megaman, Zelda, Duck Hunt and a ton of others have explosives. Isn't presented in a wholly unique way either. Earthquakes? DK does that already, and I somehow doubt we'd get the ability to cause POW block level Earthquakes without a massive charge time. At that point it's a minor functional difference from Robin's Thoron. Healing is covered by the WFT. He brings nothing unique or significantly interesting to the table.

Shulk is the only character, besides Palutena's limited Lightweight custom, who can actively change the whole matchup with a press of the button. He's everything all in one, but only one thing at a time. Now please, I don't think you could successfully argue that Shulk isn't unique to anybody.

No, Ridley was actually given a moveset easily and uses it as a boss, he was denied because of size.

and yeah a swordsman, his primary weapon in the golden sun series is a sword and what his power is actually is very strongly cared about as its a defining point of his character and just because another character has access to an explosive does not mean its the same, are you really comparing a giant exploding magic sword to a bomb/tin can grenade/fire burst?

DK does not make earthquakes as they are shockwaves, and he could easily function differently than Robin as they can use the run to recharge energy from his game as a gimmick. and healing is not covered by WFT, just because she restores 1% health at abysmal intervals does not mean they cover it, Kirby and Wario can heal themselves as well and for more but that does not mean healing is covered by them.

Shulk is unique only to a degree, hes literally a +stat/ - stat character, and he changes the match up at the press of a button until he runs into someone who knows how to press the shield button and grab him.

 

[Still~Wolf]

Night,

OH!!! PUN-TALITY!!!!!

(NOW im off to bed)

 

[A10theHero]

Well, tomorrow and Thursday I have finals. Round 1 will include a play in AP Spanish and an open-note test in Ceramics.
Here's some more music as a sign of my departure.

Bye guys!

 

[Silvera]

Also... this popped up when browsing Smashboards in Chrome.

Better switch to HTML5, XenForo.

I'm using Chrome and that doesn't happen to me. Weird.

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

I found a ninja,

unfortunately he's not a monkey ninja nor does he have an army of them so he's not responsible for the invasion.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Also... this popped up when browsing Smashboards in Chrome.

Better switch to HTML5, XenForo.

Maybe you just need to update either Chrome and/or Flash

 

[JamesDNaux]

Someone said Shulk isn't unique?

I'll Smash 'em up.

 

[Admiral Pit]

It seems lonely. D: But on the bright side, I have created new upcoming snapshots, but you'll only get to see some of em during July. >: )
And what have I been missing lately?

 

[FalKoopa]

Anyone else here likes mangoes or just me?

Mangoes are an essential part of a summer diet here.

@Sonic Buddha
Ask an admin.

 

[praline]

goodnight doodlez.

 

[LancerStaff]

No, Ridley was actually given a moveset easily and uses it as a boss, he was denied because of size.

and yeah a swordsman, his primary weapon in the golden sun series is a sword and what his power is actually is very strongly cared about as its a defining point of his character and just because another character has access to an explosive does not mean its the same, are you really comparing a giant exploding magic sword to a bomb/tin can grenade/fire burst?

DK does not make earthquakes as they are shockwaves, and he could easily function differently than Robin as they can use the run to recharge energy from his game as a gimmick. and healing is not covered by WFT, just because she restores 1% health at abysmal intervals does not mean they cover it, Kirby and Wario can heal themselves as well and for more but that does not mean healing is covered by them.

Shulk is unique only to a degree, hes literally a +stat/ - stat character, and he changes the match up at the press of a button until he runs into someone who knows how to press the shield button and grab him.

Ridley's boss moveset is for boss Ridley. Mac didn't have anything close to a functional moveset as an AT...

How would Ragnorok function? Just dropping a sword from the sky? Not really anything worth making a whole character for. Yes, I've beaten the games. Fist two, anyway... After being sick of the GBA games I didn't want to play DD after hearing about the bad reviews which lined-up with my prime complaints for the first two. But enough about that.

Run to recharge... Better, but pretty superficial. Just dashdance instead of pressing B. Weee. No dashdancing? Now you'll never find room to charge outside of Smash Run. You need to think things through a little better to get past me...

Non-minor healing is almost impossible to balance, especially since FFAs have a rather strong tendency to ignore those not actively causing damage. Can't really work in Smash without severe limitations... And we have multiple characters who could heal already but don't for balance. Healing would quickly go the way of gliding.

Shulk outranges grabs that aren't tethers. The Shulks you're fighting are idiots, or you've never actually fought one.

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

ZeRo is so 1337 at Smash even his video of For Glory with every character has 1337 likes.

 

[Rysir]

Ridley's boss moveset is for boss Ridley. Mac didn't have anything close to a functional moveset as an AT...

How would Ragnorok function? Just dropping a sword from the sky? Not really anything worth making a whole character for. Yes, I've beaten the games. Fist two, anyway... After being sick of the GBA games I didn't want to play DD after hearing about the bad reviews which lined-up with my prime complaints for the first two. But enough about that.

Run to recharge... Better, but pretty superficial. Just dashdance instead of pressing B. Weee. No dashdancing? Now you'll never find room to charge outside of Smash Run. You need to think things through a little better to get past me...

Non-minor healing is almost impossible to balance, especially since FFAs have a rather strong tendency to ignore those not actively causing damage. Can't really work in Smash without severe limitations... And we have multiple characters who could heal already but don't for balance. Healing would quickly go the way of gliding.

Shulk outranges grabs that aren't tethers. The Shulks you're fighting are idiots, or you've never actually fought one.

Can easily make Ragnarok function like explosive flame with its visual cues, also moves have nothing to do with making any character be worth making, monado did not make Shulk worth it to be included, its not even how the real monado functions from what others told me so thats a pointless comment.

Recharging and charging are two totally different things. His skills can run on the Psynergy points and get refilled by moving to perfectly mimic the game.

Non minor healing is quite well done since the current idea is make it difficult and have optimal moments instead of braindead usage, look at Robin and his extremely potent healing.

Shulk's range can hurt himself as he swings really freaking slow and suffers horribly from defensive play and longer range means hes hitting a shield sooner and suffering from shieldstun quicker leaving him open to be grabbed, its a very blatant downside and the only Shulks I face are from online tournies so yes I have faced Shulks and ones that are not idiots.

 

[Silvera]

Mangoes are an essential part of a summer diet here.

Oh yeah? That's interesting.

This talk about mangoes makes me crave for a mango smoothie.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Oh yeah? That's interesting.

This talk about mangoes makes me crave for a mango smoothie.

MaNg0
smooties?


Never heard of them
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[LancerStaff]

Can easily make Ragnarok function like explosive flame with its visual cues, also moves have nothing to do with making any character be worth making, monado did not make Shulk worth it to be included, its not even how the real monado functions from what others told me so thats a pointless comment.

Recharging and charging are two totally different things. His skills can run on the Psynergy points and get refilled by moving to perfectly mimic the game.

Non minor healing is quite well done since the current idea is make it difficult and have optimal moments instead of braindead usage, look at Robin and his extremely potent healing.

Shulk's range can hurt himself as he swings really freaking slow and suffers horribly from defensive play and longer range means hes hitting a shield sooner and suffering from shieldstun quicker leaving him open to be grabbed, its a very blatant downside and the only Shulks I face are from online tournies so yes I have faced Shulks and ones that are not idiots.

Explosive Flame already exists, no duh. Not unique, try again. The real Monado has three Arts that grant buffs, and the generic speed and offense arts were divided in two for variety while they have drawbacks instead of working off of a singular meter so they can more actively be a part of the character. It's perfectly acceptable and he's much more fun and unique because of it.

So he's Robin with one book instead of four plus a poorly designed way to recharge. Sure.

That's not even potent outside of extreme situations or if the opponent doesn't know you can mash to escape, and requires attacking an enemy that shouldn't be co-operative. If you're implying he would use a draining move I sure hope you know why it's not unique. Outright healing is completely different.

Which is why he should throw out empty SHs like every other character... It's not a weakness unique to Shulk, and it doesn't invalidate his Monado Arts either. I really don't see what you're attempting to prove.

 

[Mythra]

My playlist never ends, and this song is one of my favorites because the Dream Theater references

 

[FalKoopa]

Oh yeah? That's interesting.

This talk about mangoes makes me crave for a mango smoothie.

At this time of the year, mangoes are like 0.5 US$ for a kilo, so people make the most of it.

Directly eating a sliced ripe mango is my preferred way of eating 'em.

 

[Silvera]

My playlist never ends, and this song is one of my favorites because the Dream Theater references

When I looked at the thumbnail, for a moment I was thinking that was Pit and Palutena on there.

 

[Mythra]

When I looked at the thumbnail, for a moment I was thinking that was Pit and Palutena on there.

Pitreimu and Palusanae confirmed

...k, my jokes are starting to suck, I better go to sleep

 

[Rysir]

Explosive Flame already exists, no duh. Not unique, try again. The real Monado has three Arts that grant buffs, and the generic speed and offense arts were divided in two for variety while they have drawbacks instead of working off of a singular meter so they can more actively be a part of the character. It's perfectly acceptable and he's much more fun and unique because of it.

So he's Robin with one book instead of four plus a poorly designed way to recharge. Sure.

That's not even potent outside of extreme situations or if the opponent doesn't know you can mash to escape, and requires attacking an enemy that shouldn't be co-operative. If you're implying he would use a draining move I sure hope you know why it's not unique. Outright healing is completely different.

Which is why he should throw out empty SHs like every other character... It's not a weakness unique to Shulk, and it doesn't invalidate his Monado Arts either. I really don't see what you're attempting to prove.

I said visual cues, stop trying to be a smartass.
And the monado part was an example that your comment was pointless and not worth saying.

No, he would have an "MP system" like robin and similarities would end there, and moving to recharge is better than having to burn all usage and then wait for 6 seconds of having nothing. Robin is barely viable for a reason.

Considering its the best healing ability in the game it can easily be called potent. And it was an example yet again, the point was as long as it is difficult to pull off and requires skillful and optimal use then it can be fine.

Its not a unique weakness to shulk but it does not change the fact that defensive play slaughters him and yes it does invalidate his monado arts. Shielding normal shulk, monado shulk and hyper shulk yielded very similar results which was Shulk getting smacked.

What Im trying to prove is that is discussion is dumb and all I was saying at the start is that popularity comes before movesets for obvious reasons and that it would be nice to have other reps for games.

And so this discussion is done as all you have done was try to be a smartass that kept crapping on a potential character and bringing up others for no reason.

 

[Radical Bones]

Pitreimu and Palusanae confirmed

...k, my jokes are starting to suck, I better go to sleep

Starting to...?

 

[LancerStaff]

I said visual cues, stop trying to be a smartass.
And the monado part was an example that your comment was pointless and not worth saying.

No, he would have an "MP system" like robin and similarities would end there, and moving to recharge is better than having to burn all usage and then wait for 6 seconds of having nothing. Robin is barely viable for a reason.

Considering its the best healing ability in the game it can easily be called potent. And it was an example yet again, the point was as long as it is difficult to pull off and requires skillful and optimal use then it can be fine.

Its not a unique weakness to shulk but it does not change the fact that defensive play slaughters him and yes it does invalidate his monado arts. Shielding normal shulk, monado shulk and hyper shulk yielded very similar results which was Shulk getting smacked.

What Im trying to prove is that is discussion is dumb and all I was saying at the start is that popularity comes before movesets for obvious reasons and that it would be nice to have other reps for games.

And so this discussion is done as all you have done was try to be a smartass that kept crapping on a potential character and bringing up others for no reason.

It's still just an exploding sword dropping from the sky... It's not something that makes a character like Monado Arts or Copy Abilities.

Now Issac either has to run around like a dummy to recharge or his attacks would be so weak that giving him unlimited MP wouldn't even make him top tier. Running around for MP is just like running around trying to stall out the book timer.

FFAs ignore people not dealing damage, so something remotely balanced for FFAs would be absolutely useless for 1v1s. Which is exactly how it would happen as long as Nintendo is funding the game.

No, it doesn't ruin him or invalidate his arts. Yes, he has some bad matchups... Like Issac wouldn't, especially by your design. You're making easy-mode Robin.

"Popularity determines the roster, except when Sakurai trolls." Sakurai "trolls" one-fifth of the time, then. Too often to really call it anything but expected.

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

King Krool is assembling an army to hunt down the monkey ninjas, and expose their commander.

(This thread is so boring Splatoon, please come so I have something to keep me occupied till E3 or whenever more smash bros DLC news is announced)

 

[Rysir]

It's still just an exploding sword dropping from the sky... It's not something that makes a character like Monado Arts or Copy Abilities.

Now Issac either has to run around like a dummy to recharge or his attacks would be so weak that giving him unlimited MP wouldn't even make him top tier. Running around for MP is just like running around trying to stall out the book timer.

FFAs ignore people not dealing damage, so something remotely balanced for FFAs would be absolutely useless for 1v1s. Which is exactly how it would happen as long as Nintendo is funding the game.

No, it doesn't ruin him or invalidate his arts. Yes, he has some bad matchups... Like Issac wouldn't, especially by your design. You're making easy-mode Robin.

"Popularity determines the roster, except when Sakurai trolls." Sakurai "trolls" one-fifth of the time, then. Too often to really call it anything but expected.

When I said the discussion is stupid and done I meant its stupid and done, not invite you for the last word.

 

[Cyn]

This thread is actually chill, though. I barely post in the DR social.
You're free to come here anytime #obvious

I definitely will, sometimes it gets pretty slow there. Seems pretty lively here most of the time.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

In KoToR 2 there is a game breaking bug

There is a part in the game where someone says "Drop your weapons and you will not be harmed"

Apparently, the programmers NEVER expected someone to actually choose "Drop Weapons"

Because the game becomes unwinnable after that point

 

[Still~Wolf]

Yay, I got woken up by my dogs at 5 in the morning.
Not much happened in that 4ish hour period, I guess though.

 

[aldelaro5]

So, lots of unexpected stuff happened in my playthrough of golden sun and because of them, I decided to not beat the game and check some stuff online due to my very annoying confusion so, essentially, I got really near the end for the lols, but I spoiled myself the rest with my very low motivation to do the final boss....it was a lot more disappointing than I tought so, I will explain and kinda review the game tomorrow, it'll be clear what happened....

 

[Still~Wolf]

So, lots of unexpected stuff happened in my playthrough of golden sun and because of them, I decided to not beat the game and check some stuff online due to my very annoying confusion so, essentially, I got really near the end for the lols, but I spoiled myself the rest with my very low motivation to do the final boss....it was a lot more disappointing than I tought so, I will explain and kinda review the game tomorrow, it'll be clear what happened....

I see. Never played Golden Sun, but I've always wanted to...

 

[PLATINUM7]

Oh yeah, I should get back to playing Golden Sun.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Did you ever get the feeling even though you picked a character of one gender, the game was MADE to have you play the other?

KoToR 2 feels to me like it was made with playing the male in mind

Even though the Exile was later made a female in canon

 

[T1T0]

As my parting gift before going to work I will break the silence and attempt to get the thread going again....and I'll probably miss 888...

 

[Strofirko]

Wow Brazil is one of the only countries not in the NoA humble bundle promotion,even the virgin islands are there.

 

[Kirbyfan391]

So, lots of unexpected stuff happened in my playthrough of golden sun and because of them, I decided to not beat the game and check some stuff online due to my very annoying confusion so, essentially, I got really near the end for the lols, but I spoiled myself the rest with my very low motivation to do the final boss....it was a lot more disappointing than I tought so, I will explain and kinda review the game tomorrow, it'll be clear what happened....

Spoiler: sort of an actual spoiler, not story related but more general

The main thing about the final boss is the actual battle, that's what makes it so great imo rather than the story implications and events behind it.

 

[DougX]

*Yawns* Good morning. Another average morning at home as the school year whittles down.

 

[Blargg888]

Good Morning Smarshbirds!
How are you guys doing today?