Smash 4 Social Thread 3.0

[PsychoIncarnate]

When I was in high school and early college I really didn't care about my grades

I care more now that I'm went back to college

But honestly I don't think my life would have been any different if I did get straight A's

 

[Deleted member]

Because I'm against fun.

Fixed for accuracy.

 

[Will]

Reminds me of Baby from Dinosaurs.

He's history's first troll.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

He's history's first troll.

The sad thing is, that baby didn't get the chance to grow up

On the last episode of Dinosaurs, everyone was slowly succumbing to an inevitable death by cold.

They were all huddled in a building together watching as their world was ending

 

[Bedoop]

LASSIES AND MENTLEGEN, THE ROSTER. As Smilies.​

 

[Knight Dude]

Because I'm practical and don't always play along with childish jokes.

No. It's because you seem completely immune to our humor. You're that one guy who almost never gets the joke. I mean, ****. I can admit I'm not all that funny, but you almost go out of your way to ruin people's jokes.

Sorry if this came off as a little rude.

 

[TJ-Works]

When I was in high school and early college I really didn't care about my grades

I care more now that I'm went back to college

But honestly I don't think my life would have been any different if I did get straight A's

Really, the only ways you could get A's for certain subjects (in further education) were because;

• A: You were naturally smart.
• B: You were committed to your work and favorite subject.
• C: You gave a sh** about getting a job so you could get all the booze money you could afford.

 

[Frostwraith]

So, I wanted to get this out of my head...

[collapse="Essay about clones in Smash 4"]From an insider standpoint, why are the last minute clones Dr. Mario, Dark Pit and Lucina? This assumes they were meant to be alts, like Sakurai stated regarding Lucina. This trio of characters seems to be getting a lot of flak, even though it's baseless and unnecessary. I hope to enlighten why they were added... or rather, promoted, so to speak.

1. Development costs - They already had models to be alts, meaning they only had to do a few new animations. Judging on both animation work and ordering on the roster, it seems Dr. Mario had the highest priority of the three and Lucina had the lowest priority.

All characters got 6 new animations for 3 taunts and 3 win poses.

Dr. Mario has different standing animations, one unique entrance and two unique attacks. That means at least 9 animations differ from Mario.
Dark Pit shares all animations with Pit, except taunts, win poses and Final Smash. This means a total of 7 new animations.
Lucina is nearly identical to Marth. Her entrance is very similar to Marth with only a subtle change involving her taking the mask off. She also has different taunts and win poses. Let's say 6.5 animations here.

Moveset-wise, they're practically copy-paste info with adjustments. Again, Dr. Mario has the biggest changes, while Lucina has the least changes, leaving Dark Pit in the middle.

While not nearly as much as an entirely new character like Rosalina or Mega Man, it still takes a bit of work to do it, but given those are all minor changes, the process of making this trio was much faster.

2. Marketability - All characters have fans, some more than others. Out of the 10 characters to choose from, it was a matter of picking those that would make sense from a marketing viewpoint. Assuming they only had time for 3 clones, that puts the Koopalings out of the equation, given it would be senseless to separate only a part of the group.

This leaves Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, Lucina and Alph. A Melee favorite, two characters from critically acclaimed 3DS titles and one from one of Wii U's major titles.

This is Smash Bros. The motto of the series is pretty much "Play as your favorite Nintendo characters". Am I wrong?

Dr. Mario is a good pick: he was in Melee and his game is a well-known puzzle game by Nintendo. That makes him highest priority.

That leaves Dark Pit, Lucina and Alph. The first two from 3DS games and the last from a Wii U game. Which of those consoles has a larger install base? The 3DS... by far. That puts Dark Pit and Lucina at an advantage: more people are likely to know those characters than to know Alph. Plus, they're more popular characters, notably in Japan.

That leaves Alph as a lower priority, development focusing on Dark Pit and Lucina.

Lastly, remember that each character gets a amiibo figure. I don't know if alt costumes such as male/female counterparts or Alph will get amiibos, but it seems the amiibos will be limited to default colors. (Maybe you can change the colors of the figure's AI player in-game?)

Anyway, I'm pretty sure some fans would buy figures of Dr. Mario, Lucina and Dark Pit. Like I said in the beginning, all characters have fans, some more than others, but still.

3. Laziness? - One of the arguments I've seen is how Sakurai is lazy for putting this trio of characters in Smash. Bull****. If there was indeed laziness, there would be less three spots on the roster. In the time these characters were made, nothing would have happened if the developers were indeed lazy.

The team saw an opportunity to develop some extra content, they took it. That is not laziness. That is dedication. They could have perfectly left those characters as alts, but they went ahead and made something out of them, within limited conditions, including time constraints.[/collapse]

Anyway, will be playing some more of the demo, but I'll be going now...

 

[Digital Hazard]

He's history's first troll.

Lord Bunny differs

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

So, the exam was Sonic centered or furry in general?

I'm not a furry, and the only thing on my mind around the time I took the entrance exam was Zelda.

No. It's because you seem completely immune to our humor. You're that one guy who almost never gets the joke. I mean, ****. I can admit I'm not all that funny, but you almost go out of your way to ruin people's jokes.

Sorry if this came off as a little rude.

The problem is: Not everybody can share a similar sense of humor.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Really, the only ways you could get A's for certain subjects (in further education) were because;

• A: You were naturally smart.
• B: You were committed to your work and favorite subject.
• C: You gave a sh** about getting a job so you could get all the booze money you could afford.

I'm naturally smart, got A's on every test

I just didn't care. Never did my homework

You can't get straight A's just passing the tests in most classes

 

[Will]

The sad thing is, that baby didn't get the chance to grow up

On the last episode of Dinosaurs, everyone was slowly succumbing to an inevitable death by cold.

They were all huddled in a building together watching as their world was ending

No need for Netflix,then.

Lord Bunny differs

History as in History.

 

[Lozjam]

So, I wanted to get this out of my head...

[collapse="Essay about clones in Smash 4"]From an insider standpoint, why are the last minute clones Dr. Mario, Dark Pit and Lucina? This assumes they were meant to be alts, like Sakurai stated regarding Lucina. This trio of characters seems to be getting a lot of flak, even though it's baseless and unnecessary. I hope to enlighten why they were added... or rather, promoted, so to speak.

1. Development costs - They already had models to be alts, meaning they only had to do a few new animations. Judging on both animation work and ordering on the roster, it seems Dr. Mario had the highest priority of the three and Lucina had the lowest priority.

All characters got 6 new animations for 3 taunts and 3 win poses.

Dr. Mario has different standing animations, one unique entrance and two unique attacks. That means at least 9 animations differ from Mario.
Dark Pit shares all animations with Pit, except taunts, win poses and Final Smash. This means a total of 7 new animations.
Lucina is nearly identical to Marth. Her entrance is very similar to Marth with only a subtle change involving her taking the mask off. She also has different taunts and win poses. Let's say 6.5 animations here.

Moveset-wise, they're practically copy-paste info with adjustments. Again, Dr. Mario has the biggest changes, while Lucina has the least changes, leaving Dark Pit in the middle.

While not nearly as much as an entirely new character like Rosalina or Mega Man, it still takes a bit of work to do it, but given those are all minor changes, the process of making this trio was much faster.

2. Marketability - All characters have fans, some more than others. Out of the 10 characters to choose from, it was a matter of picking those that would make sense from a marketing viewpoint. Assuming they only had time for 3 clones, that puts the Koopalings out of the equation, given it would be senseless to separate only a part of the group.

This leaves Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, Lucina and Alph. A Melee favorite, two characters from critically acclaimed 3DS titles and one from one of Wii U's major titles.

This is Smash Bros. The motto of the series is pretty much "Play as your favorite Nintendo characters". Am I wrong?

Dr. Mario is a good pick: he was in Melee and his game is a well-known puzzle game by Nintendo. That makes him highest priority.

That leaves Dark Pit, Lucina and Alph. The first two from 3DS games and the last from a Wii U game. Which of those consoles has a larger install base? The 3DS... by far. That puts Dark Pit and Lucina at an advantage: more people are likely to know those characters than to know Alph. Plus, they're more popular characters, notably in Japan.

That leaves Alph as a lower priority, development focusing on Dark Pit and Lucina.

Lastly, remember that each character gets a amiibo figure. I don't know if alt costumes such as male/female counterparts or Alph will get amiibos, but it seems the amiibos will be limited to default colors. (Maybe you can change the colors of the figure's AI player in-game?)

Anyway, I'm pretty sure some fans would buy figures of Dr. Mario, Lucina and Dark Pit. Like I said in the beginning, all characters have fans, some more than others, but still.

3. Laziness? - One of the arguments I've seen is how Sakurai is lazy for putting this trio of characters in Smash. Bull****. If there was indeed laziness, there would be less three spots on the roster. In the time these characters were made, nothing would have happened if the developers were indeed lazy.

The team saw an opportunity to develop some extra content, they took it. That is not laziness. That is dedication. They could have perfectly left those characters as alts, but they went ahead and made something out of them, within limited conditions, including time constraints.[/collapse]

Anyway, will be playing some more of the demo, but I'll be going now...

Demo on, good sir. Link also beacons me to my bedroom.

 

[Deleted member]

The problem is: Not everybody can share a similar sense of humor.

The problem is you don't have a sense of humor to begin with.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

LASSIES AND MENTLEGEN, THE ROSTER. As Smilies.​

1) I want Koopaling smilies. Specifically Lemmy

2) I think the DHD smilie needs the duck's head with it

 

[Deleted member]

So, I wanted to get this out of my head...

[collapse="Essay about clones in Smash 4"]From an insider standpoint, why are the last minute clones Dr. Mario, Dark Pit and Lucina? This assumes they were meant to be alts, like Sakurai stated regarding Lucina. This trio of characters seems to be getting a lot of flak, even though it's baseless and unnecessary. I hope to enlighten why they were added... or rather, promoted, so to speak.

1. Development costs - They already had models to be alts, meaning they only had to do a few new animations. Judging on both animation work and ordering on the roster, it seems Dr. Mario had the highest priority of the three and Lucina had the lowest priority.

All characters got 6 new animations for 3 taunts and 3 win poses.

Dr. Mario has different standing animations, one unique entrance and two unique attacks. That means at least 9 animations differ from Mario.
Dark Pit shares all animations with Pit, except taunts, win poses and Final Smash. This means a total of 7 new animations.
Lucina is nearly identical to Marth. Her entrance is very similar to Marth with only a subtle change involving her taking the mask off. She also has different taunts and win poses. Let's say 6.5 animations here.

Moveset-wise, they're practically copy-paste info with adjustments. Again, Dr. Mario has the biggest changes, while Lucina has the least changes, leaving Dark Pit in the middle.

While not nearly as much as an entirely new character like Rosalina or Mega Man, it still takes a bit of work to do it, but given those are all minor changes, the process of making this trio was much faster.

2. Marketability - All characters have fans, some more than others. Out of the 10 characters to choose from, it was a matter of picking those that would make sense from a marketing viewpoint. Assuming they only had time for 3 clones, that puts the Koopalings out of the equation, given it would be senseless to separate only a part of the group.

This leaves Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, Lucina and Alph. A Melee favorite, two characters from critically acclaimed 3DS titles and one from one of Wii U's major titles.

This is Smash Bros. The motto of the series is pretty much "Play as your favorite Nintendo characters". Am I wrong?

Dr. Mario is a good pick: he was in Melee and his game is a well-known puzzle game by Nintendo. That makes him highest priority.

That leaves Dark Pit, Lucina and Alph. The first two from 3DS games and the last from a Wii U game. Which of those consoles has a larger install base? The 3DS... by far. That puts Dark Pit and Lucina at an advantage: more people are likely to know those characters than to know Alph. Plus, they're more popular characters, notably in Japan.

That leaves Alph as a lower priority, development focusing on Dark Pit and Lucina.

Lastly, remember that each character gets a amiibo figure. I don't know if alt costumes such as male/female counterparts or Alph will get amiibos, but it seems the amiibos will be limited to default colors. (Maybe you can change the colors of the figure's AI player in-game?)

Anyway, I'm pretty sure some fans would buy figures of Dr. Mario, Lucina and Dark Pit. Like I said in the beginning, all characters have fans, some more than others, but still.

3. Laziness? - One of the arguments I've seen is how Sakurai is lazy for putting this trio of characters in Smash. Bull****. If there was indeed laziness, there would be less three spots on the roster. In the time these characters were made, nothing would have happened if the developers were indeed lazy.

The team saw an opportunity to develop some extra content, they took it. That is not laziness. That is dedication. They could have perfectly left those characters as alts, but they went ahead and made something out of them, within limited conditions, including time constraints.[/collapse]

Anyway, will be playing some more of the demo, but I'll be going now...

I like this. Now if only there were enough rational people out there who would listen...

 

[Will]

I'm naturally smart, got A's on every test

I just didn't care. Never did my homework

You can't get straight A's just passing the tests in most classes

I once got an F in Art for not finishing an Abstract sketch for homework.
I still passed with an A,since it was my only F Grade given,while the rest were A's.

 

[Digital Hazard]

I'm not a furry, and the only thing on my mind around the time I took the entrance exam was Zelda.

So, you were thinking on furry Cuccos?

 

[Deleted member]

I like this. Now if only there were enough rational people out there who would listen...

"Rational people" and "the Smash fanbase" don't really go hand in hand that well.

 

[Bedoop]

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, CHARACTERS. As Icons.​

@Hong TELL YOUR MOD BUDDIES TO DO THEIR JOBS
I'M TIRED OF COPY-PASTING ALL THESE SMILIES WHILE WAITING FOR THE ACTUAL ONES. WHERE IS :4medicine: !?
Just wanted to let you know~

 

[Knight Dude]

What we need is an America Mario icon. I mean, how else can we celebrate freedom? I'd also like to see a Yellow Devil one. I mean, he looks so judgmental.

 

[praline]

New sig.

Gonna edit it once more characters get there art posted on the website.

 

[TJ-Works]

"Rational people" and "the Smash fanbase" don't really go hand in hand that well.

There are rational people on the internet?

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

@Hong TELL YOUR MOD BUDDIES TO DO THEIR JOBS
I'M TIRED OF COPY-PASTING ALL THESE SMILIES WHILE WAITING FOR THE ACTUAL ONES. WHERE IS :4medicine: !?
Just wanted to let you know~

Give it up, dude, they're not going to do it until they're on the website

 

[Lozjam]

New sig.

Gonna edit it once more characters get there art posted on the website.

I do not know.... It's hard to top your avatar. It's very hot.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

There are rational people on the internet?

Damn, I have no person I could call rational on this forum overall.

 

[Deleted member]

@Hong TELL YOUR MOD BUDDIES TO DO THEIR JOBS
I'M TIRED OF COPY-PASTING ALL THESE SMILIES WHILE WAITING FOR THE ACTUAL ONES. WHERE IS :4medicine: !?
Just wanted to let you know~

I think the mods are going to wait until they are officially revealed.

 

[TJ-Works]

New sig.

Gonna edit it once more characters get there art posted on the website.

I should update mine, as well. It's a bit dumb holding onto a wishlist at this point in time.

 

[Bedoop]

I think the mods are going to wait until they are officially revealed.

What if they're never revealed >_>

 

[Deleted member]

I should update mine, as well. It's a bit dumb holding onto a wishlist at this point in time.

It's dumb unless you are one of the

crowd or the "Wii U locked characters" crowd.

 

[Lozjam]

What if they're never revealed >_>

Then blame Canada and @Hong.

 

[Digital Hazard]

I do not know.... It's hard to top your avatar. It's very hot.

Please, we all know @ Verde Coeden Scalesworth avatar is the hottest

Damn, I have no person I could call rational on this forum overall.

The first two days I tried to be that. The third, here I am.

 

[Deleted member]

Then blame Canada and @Hong.

At least Canada would apologize.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Please, we all know @ Verde Coeden Scalesworth avatar is the hottest

I thought I was the wettest. I am a fish~

The first two days I tried to be that. The third, here I am.

Welcome to real life~

At least Canada would apologize.

You saying China would not? /Touhou joke

 

[praline]

I should update mine, as well. It's a bit dumb holding onto a wishlist at this point in time.

Pretty much.

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

"Rational people" and "the Smash fanbase" don't really go hand in hand that well.

Try the Sonic fanbase, while you're at it. *shudders*

 

[Knight Dude]

What if they're never revealed >_>

US release I suppose.

The first two days I tried to be that. The third, here I am.

Now you're as crazy as the rest of us. I hope you like spiraling into madness.

 

[Deleted member]

"Rational people" and "the Smash fanbase" don't really go hand in hand that well.

"Ridley is playable! No way Sakurai would tease us for over a year if he was just a boss!"

Yeah, you have a point.

 

[Lozjam]

WAAAAYYY better than Brawl's.

 

[Deleted member]

Try the Sonic fanbase, while you're at it. *shudders*

"Not rational" and "bat**** insane" are two completely different things.

"Ridley is playable! No way Sakurai would tease us for over a year if he was just a boss!"

Yeah if you could stop talking about Ridley stuff here that'd be great. Thanks pumpkin.