• Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!

    You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!

Smash 4 Social Thread 3.0

Status
Not open for further replies.

BaPr

Smash Lord
Joined
Jun 11, 2013
Messages
1,638
3DS FC
1091-9057-0681
DLC and patches are different. Patches will probably nerf, buff, etc., but DLC is strictly on adding content unless the company's Capcom.
Oh yeah, forgot about that. Also, what does Capcom do differently?
 
D

Deleted member

Guest
Yeah, apparently the Turnip is an item....at least in For Glory. This should get a patch.
I don't think that's the issue. I think the issue is that Peach's down special can (rarely) spawn beam swords, bob-ombs, and Mr. Saturns.
 

Will

apustaja
Joined
Jan 18, 2014
Messages
34,100
Location
hell
Switch FC
SW-7573-2962-2407
I just now realized.

Groose (Skyward Sword)
Gaston (Beauty and the Beast)

They're like brothers,the ones who were seperated as children. One parent being Disney,and the other being Nintendo.
You can't deny it when the dots are connected.

I just made a Gaston Mii. He will be my Fighter :troll:

On another topic,many people say there are 3 slots left. Most say DLC,I say one slot per Mii Class.
 

Dan

Smash Lord
Joined
Dec 26, 2013
Messages
1,936
Just played the 3DS demo. Have a curiosity: my play style in Melee using my main, Marth, was just grabbing, C-sticking, and using Z a lot in the air and just combo-ing the sh*t out of people. I can't really do any of that here, as you can't use Z in the air and the controls are set up different. Does everyone else kind of feel like a noob like they're starting from scratch again with this game?
 

Starcutter

Resident Beedrill
Joined
Dec 13, 2012
Messages
7,221
Location
Viridian Forest
NNID
Legendofrob1
3DS FC
1908-0357-9077
Just played the 3DS demo. Have a curiosity: my play style in Melee using my main, Marth, was just grabbing, C-sticking, and using Z a lot in the air and just combo-ing the sh*t out of people. I can't really do any of that here, as you can't use Z in the air and the controls are set up different. Does everyone else kind of feel like a noob like they're starting from scratch again with this game?
The only thing I don't like is that L and R are switched.


other than that if I play normally, I do just as good as I always do.
 

PLATINUM7

Star Platinum
Joined
Nov 15, 2013
Messages
12,303
NNID
PLATINUM7
3DS FC
1246-8735-0293
Switch FC
2465-5306-3806
I just now realized.

Groose (Skyward Sword)
Gaston (Beauty and the Beast)

They're like brothers,the ones who were seperated as children. One parent being Disney,and the other being Nintendo.
You can't deny it when the dots are connected.

I just made a Gaston Mii. He will be my Fighter :troll:

On another topic,many people say there are 3 slots left. Most say DLC,I say one slot per Mii Class.
the miis share the one roster slot
 

Verde Coeden Scalesworth

Flap and Swish~
Premium
Joined
Aug 13, 2001
Messages
34,416
Location
Cull Hazard
NNID
Irene4
3DS FC
1203-9265-8784
Switch FC
SW-7567-8572-3791
DLC and patches are different. Patches will probably nerf, buff, etc., but DLC is strictly on adding content unless the company's Capcom.
Our first patch was to add a new mode(content) on the Japanese version. Sakurai referred to it as a "patch" despite this. I doubt he's using the terms like many do. It's just downloaded content to him, as he's clearly looking at it from a design perspective.
 

Ffamran

The Smooth Devil Mod
Joined
Aug 25, 2014
Messages
14,629
Oh yeah, forgot about that. Also, what does Capcom do differently?
Let's see, there's Street Fighter IV, Super Street Fighter IV, Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition, and Ultra Street Fighter IV. They do have updates in-between for patches and stuff, but if you don't have the latest edition, then you get locked out of current competition, gameplay - each one is a little different -, and characters and it's only a couple compared to the massive roster SSB has. Oh, and palette swaps and costumes cost a lot when palette swaps should have been in the game - I think they are, but there's not a lot of them. Each version is like $15 to $40 - upgrades cost less, but when the game changes slightly each time it adds up. Should I mention that sometimes this stuff is on-disc? The costumes are and I think some characters are. I think people found out in Street Fighter X Tekken even though Capcom said there wasn't and then defended the practice.

Capcom and Activision have the most horrible practices regarding DLC. EA at least lets you get a season pass so a game's like a $100, but you're guaranteed all the DLC, Bethesda and Blizzard are notorious for well-done DLC expansions, and CD Projekt RED, the guys who make The Witcher games, are totally against paid-DLC unless it's warranted. I can see The Witcher 3 getting a massive expansion, but in past games, large updates were free.
 
Last edited:

DecaHibiki

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Aug 29, 2014
Messages
121
Melee DLC We Need it, if many want it nintendo will hear us we need a Melee+Brawl DLC (IC,Roy,Pichu and Mewtwo + Lucas, Wolf, Snake and a Beta Brawl character (Dixie/Prai_mai)/Tetra/toon zelda)
 

BaPr

Smash Lord
Joined
Jun 11, 2013
Messages
1,638
3DS FC
1091-9057-0681
Let's see, there's Street Fighter IV, Super Street Fighter IV, Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition, and Ultra Street Fighter IV. They do have updates in-between for patches and stuff, but if you don't have the latest edition, then you get locked out of current competition, gameplay - each one is a little different -, and characters and it's only a couple compared to the massive roster SSB has. Oh, and palette swaps and costumes cost a lot when palette swaps should have been in the game - I think they are, but there's not a lot of them. Each version is like $15 to $40 - upgrades cost less, but when the game changes slightly each time it adds up. Should I mention that sometimes this stuff is on-disc? The costumes are and I think some characters are. I think people found out in Street Fighter X Tekken even though Capcom said there wasn't and then defended the practice.

Capcom and Activision have the most horrible practices regarding DLC. EA at least lets you get a season pass so a game's like a $100, but you're guaranteed all the DLC, Bethesda and Blizzard are notorious for well-done DLC expansions, and CD Projekt RED, the guys who make The Witcher games, are totally against paid-DLC unless it's warranted. I can see The Witcher 3 getting a massive expansion, but in past games, large updates were free.
Wow, it seems Capcom's trying to get as much money as possible. I didn't know they had more than one street fighter 4, I thought it was just SF4 and SF4 3DE (which I still play).
 

Ffamran

The Smooth Devil Mod
Joined
Aug 25, 2014
Messages
14,629
Wow, it seems Capcom's trying to get as much money as possible. I didn't know they had more than one street fighter 4, I thought it was just SF4 and SF4 3DE (which I still play).
Ironically, they're in financial trouble. They know Street Fighter sells, but they're doing it in the worst possible way. Hell, people keep asking for Mega Man, Okami, Viewtiful Joe, a decent Resident Evil game, etc., and nope. Now it's all these cash grabs and decent new IPs that are kind of niche like Soul Sacrifice and Dragon's Dogma. They're great games, but aren't well-known compared to Mega Man, Devil May Cry, or Resident Evil.
 

NintenNess

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Aug 9, 2014
Messages
481
Location
Washington State
Wow, it seems Capcom's trying to get as much money as possible. I didn't know they had more than one street fighter 4, I thought it was just SF4 and SF4 3DE (which I still play).
Welp, this is Capcom in a nutshell..


Edit: Fixed.
 
Last edited:

Soul.

 
Joined
Jul 7, 2014
Messages
19,659
I don't think that's the issue. I think the issue is that Peach's down special can (rarely) spawn beam swords, bob-ombs, and Mr. Saturns.
Or it could be because of the ledge cancel turnip thing...maybe. They should just patch it, make Peach able to use turnips, and not take out the ledge cancelled thing.
 

Dan

Smash Lord
Joined
Dec 26, 2013
Messages
1,936
Also, I don't think I'm that good, but I'm destroying level 9 CPU's in the demo by just bull-rushing them. Has it been that easy for everyone else?
 

BaPr

Smash Lord
Joined
Jun 11, 2013
Messages
1,638
3DS FC
1091-9057-0681
Ironically, they're in financial trouble. They know Street Fighter sells, but they're doing it in the worst possible way. Hell, people keep asking for Mega Man, Okami, Viewtiful Joe, a decent Resident Evil game, etc., and nope. Now it's all these cash grabs and decent new IPs that are kind of niche like Soul Sacrifice and Dragon's Dogma. They're great games, but aren't well-known compared to Mega Man, Devil May Cry, or Resident Evil.
Making a new game for one of those titles seems like a smart way to get money. Or they could just do a remake of the old ones. I mean, Pokemon seems to be pretty successful with remakes and ORAS is also getting a ton of hype.
Welp, this is Capcom in a nutshell..


Edit: Fixed.
You could try posting the link from the site here. Oh, you got it already.
 
Last edited:

Kaye Cruiser

Waveshocker Sigma
Joined
Aug 11, 2009
Messages
8,032
NNID
KayeCruiser
Switch FC
0740-7501-7043
That's because that's what they are.

If we used the logic of SSBWiiU being Smash 5, Street Fighter would be on Street Fighter 8(?) by now.
Thts pretty much what they are. Anyone calling WiiU version Smash 5 is using some wierd logic (I assume it has to do with the Smash 6 trademark registering, which in itself I would say was wonky and leads to Soul Calibur most likely)
That's my logic behind it either. I don't know why people insist otherwise.
Let me just clear up this little thing for you. It's not that certain people are insisting on them being referred to that way.

http://kotaku.com/an-in-depth-chat-with-the-genius-behind-super-smash-bro-530744390

Sakurai: We're now going into versions four and five within the series—this is only something that's now possible.

Kotaku: When you say four and five, do you mean the 3DS and Wii U versions? Those are separate?

Sakurai: Yeah, exactly.


It's that Sakurai seems to feel that's how it is. He's the creator and his word is law regardless of what anyone else thinks of feels so, headcanons be damned, Word of God states that Smash 3DS is Smash 4 and Smash Wii U is Smash 5.

But when other like me and Blazer reference that, we're really just poking fun and joking about it. XD
 
Last edited:

Ffamran

The Smooth Devil Mod
Joined
Aug 25, 2014
Messages
14,629
Making a new game for one of those titles seems like a smart way to get money. Or they could just do a remake of the old ones. I mean, Pokemon seems to be pretty successful with remakes and ORAS is also getting a ton of hype.

You could try posting the link from the site here. Oh, you got it already.
Yeah, but Capcom... Maybe you or someone else sensible should be the head of Capcom.
 

Verde Coeden Scalesworth

Flap and Swish~
Premium
Joined
Aug 13, 2001
Messages
34,416
Location
Cull Hazard
NNID
Irene4
3DS FC
1203-9265-8784
Switch FC
SW-7567-8572-3791
Let me just clear up this little thing for you. It's not that certain people are insisting on them being referred to that way.

http://kotaku.com/an-in-depth-chat-with-the-genius-behind-super-smash-bro-530744390

Sakurai: We're now going into versions four and five within the series—this is only something that's now possible.

Kotaku: When you say four and five, do you mean the 3DS and Wii U versions? Those are separate?

Sakurai: Yeah, exactly.


It's that Sakurai seems to feel that's how it is. He's the creator and his word is law regardless of what anyone else thinks of feels so, headcanons be damned, Word of God states that Smash 3DS is Smash 4 and Smash Wii U is Smash 5.

But when other like me and Blazer reference that, we're really just poking fun and joking about it. XD
To note, I'm not sure if he meant 3DS is Four and Wii U is Five, but he does consider them separate regardless of that. He might be leaving it up to the players to decide which counts as which. However, the order released makes it obvious what to label each one. XD
 

The Original Robot boy

Smash Champion
Joined
Jun 17, 2013
Messages
2,562
Location
Onett
NNID
AzureXeire
3DS FC
0173-2317-7445
Let me just clear up this little thing for you. It's not that certain people are insisting on them being referred to that way.

http://kotaku.com/an-in-depth-chat-with-the-genius-behind-super-smash-bro-530744390

Sakurai: We're now going into versions four and five within the series—this is only something that's now possible.

Kotaku: When you say four and five, do you mean the 3DS and Wii U versions? Those are separate?

Sakurai: Yeah, exactly.


It's that Sakurai seems to feel that's how it is. He's the creator and his word is law regardless of what anyone else thinks of feels so, headcanons be damned, Word of God states that Smash 3DS is Smash 4 and Smash Wii U is Smash 5.

But when other like me and Blazer reference that, we're really just poking fun and joking about it. XD
But...but... they have the same characters....
 

PsychoIncarnate

The Eternal Will of the Swarm
Joined
Jul 4, 2007
Messages
50,641
Location
Char
NNID
PsychoIncarnate
3DS FC
4554-0155-5885
I really hate listen to people fighting

There are some people fighting in the other room
 

PsychoIncarnate

The Eternal Will of the Swarm
Joined
Jul 4, 2007
Messages
50,641
Location
Char
NNID
PsychoIncarnate
3DS FC
4554-0155-5885
Especially when it sounds more like one person is belittling the other
 

Verde Coeden Scalesworth

Flap and Swish~
Premium
Joined
Aug 13, 2001
Messages
34,416
Location
Cull Hazard
NNID
Irene4
3DS FC
1203-9265-8784
Switch FC
SW-7567-8572-3791
well true but ugh idk i'm getting a headache from this...
It's closer to the Pokemon Red and Blue games. Same "generation" with some differences.

Of course, they have different characters instead of different music/etc. It's the opposite in what kinds of differences.(sometimes items too)
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom