Smash 4 Social Thread 3.0

[Backgammon]

Mains:

Secondaries:

Will use online to irritate people:
, Emo

 

[BaPr]

I just caught Link's final smash with Villager's neutral B.

I wonder if you can do the same with samus.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Next Title? Eh, I kinda expect a few buyouts to occur, but I'll leave those out since they'd take up too much room, I'll also leave out my third party predictions.

Mario franchise
Dr Mario is cut
Paper Mario comes in
Possible brand new rep comes in

Zelda
Toon Zelda comes in
Possible brand new rep comes in
No cuts

Pokemon
Mewtwo finally returns
Grass type fully evolved 7/8th gen starter comes in
No cuts except maybe, I said MAYBE Jigglypuff

StarFox (Get ready for StarFox Wii U)
Wolf returns
Krystal comes in

Kid Icarus
Dark Pit is cut
Medusa becomes possible

Kirby
No cuts
No newcomers

F-Zero
No cuts
No newcomers

Earthbound
No cuts

Yoshi
No cuts
No newcomers

Fire Emblem
Ike is cut
Brand new rep might happen, but I kinda doubt it

Retro
No cuts
Takamaru comes in

Xenoblade
No cuts
X rep comes in

Wii series
Wii Fit Trainer gets cut

Animal Crossing
No cuts
No newcomers

New Franchises
Splatoon's Inkling comes in

 

[Pyra]

I wonder if you can do the same with samus.

You can't use it afterwards. I suppose I only caught it because of the "laser" Link shoots out right before the final smash counts as a projectile laser.

Would have been cool to see Villager triforce slashing though.

 

[kylexv]

My view of the next Smash:

Mario Series and spinoffs: Captain Toad is added (finally), repping his own series. Doctor Mario is cut.
DK: A newcomer is added.
Zelda: Impa is a newcomer
Metroid: Stays the same (Sakurai: *laughs*)
Kirby: Bandanna Dee is added.
Star Fox: Goes back up to 3 reps
Pokemon: A pokemon from Generation 8 is added.
Kid Icarus: Trades Dark Pit for Viridi or Medusa.
Fire Emblem: Lucina is cut and replaced with the protagonist of the newest game.
Other: Ice Climbers retun. Inkling is added. Someone from Project S.T.E.A.M. is added.

I don't know what will come in the future obviously though.

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

• Kirby stays the same.

I know you are joking, you said so yourself, but I still want to point out that a lot of people are probably going to still think this...This isn't aimed at you.

I disagree. Even though it's easy to say Bandana Dee isn't important now for example, that doesn't stop the fact that Hal keeps putting him into more and more games. Who knows what new abilities and roles he gets. Really, I fully expect people to deny his importance even if he gets his own game.

Then theres Magolor who is another character Hal seems to like to push. He keeps appearing for whatever reason. People could start saying he is a needed villain. Then theres Marx, who has gotten a tease from both Return to Dreamland and Triple Deluxe. They could be planning to do something big with him. He could also be seen as a needed villain.

I'm excited to see what Hal has in store, and hopefully Sakurai puts a lot of it in.

 

[Crescendo]

If anything, I'm expecting a lot of characters of Smash 5 getting the same treatment as Bowser in Smash 4. Veterans will get huge revamps to "fit their latest incarnations", clones will probably be ported and heavily differentiated (similar to how Falco and others were treated in Brawl), and the main meat of the work will go toward the already existing characters making sure everyone gets a slice of the pie. The reveal of the new Pokemon rep will involve him violently crushing Mewtwo's skull while rock plays on the background, and Ganondorf will pull out two swords in his taunt in exchange of being the most brutal Fist Wizard you'll see in any video game.

The worst case scenario would be Nintendo trying to bloat the roster with a gigantic set of turboclones, no matter if it makes sense or not. Think of Captain Toad as a Jigglypuff clone, Impa as a Olimar clone, Slippy as a Ike clone and Simon Belmont as a Zero Suit Samus clone. But that would be quite a grim future now, isn't it?

 

[praline]

Apparently the star in Rosalina's FS deals 230% from what i heard in Shofu's stream.

 

[Bedoop]

OK, OK, now my actual mains.
Shiet's-Getting-Real Main: (BUFFED BUFFED BUFFED BUFFED)
Super-Main: (Better Mario 4 Dayz)
Mains: Lemmy (So much Mario)
Secondaries:
Honorable Mention: Gunner (oh, why can't we use Miis online With Anyone. QQ)

Also, WHY didn't they re-make the SSB64 Commercial for Smash 4 Advertising? :<

 

[JamesDNaux]

A post.

This is disregarding the fact that Sakurai no longer works on Kirby and hasn't been a part of HAL for quite some time. Bandana Dee being in the newer games has nothing to do with Sakurai and I don't think he particularly cares for anything from the franchise that isn't his. He did make Bandana Dee, but he made him as a generic enemy, no offense to Bandana Dee.

I'm not sure why this even matters, since we're long past characters at this point.

Besides the few of us still grasping at straws who are on the DLC train.

 

[praline]

I wanna find every person that said Falco was getting cut and Wolf returning for Smash 4 and laugh at them.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

So what is everyone thoughts on if megaman had a protoman alt?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I wanna find every person that said Falco was getting cut and Wolf returning for Smash 4 and laugh at them.

I think more people wanted that to happen, not so much thought it really would. That was my preference, but it was obvious who would've gotten cut among the two.

Although IC's proved that being a 2-time veteran is irrelevant unless you're part of the original 12.

 

[BaPr]

Doesn't look like it, unfortunately.

I wonder why one of RObin's victory animations had Chrom and the other didn't.

 

[JamesDNaux]

I wanna find every person that said Falco was getting cut and Wolf returning for Smash 4 and laugh at them.

We should point and laugh at the people who thought that the Ice Climbers ever had a chance of returning.

All this salt in the wound.

 

[praline]

I think more people wanted that to happen, not so much thought it really would. That was my preference, but it was obvious who would've gotten cut among the two.

Although IC's proved that being a 2-time veteran is irrelevant unless you're part of the original 12.

Ice Climbers just had difficulty working on the 3ds from what i heard.

 

[Bedoop]

Doesn't look like it, unfortunately.

Silly Youtube Uploader
Every character has 3 Victory Animations, not 1.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Ice Climbers just had difficulty working on the 3ds from what i heard.

Correct. But them being a 2-time veteran wasn't relevant either way. Which is my key point.

For the record, Falco is way more popular than Wolf overall, so the cut was the smarter option to please the most. The fact he wasn't much decloned is the issue, however.

 

[Frostwraith]

Doesn't look like it, unfortunately.

So, only Bowser, Bowser Jr. (and the Koopalings), Rosalina, Meta Knight and Dark Pit get special treatment for victory themes...

Most of them are also reused from Brawl. Not exactly disappointed, but why didn't they bother with making new mixes for the older series when they made new jingles for the new series, the Koopa crew, Rosalina and Dark Pit?

 

[FlareHabanero]

Doesn't look like it, unfortunately.

That Dark Pit and Shulk victory themes.

 

[praline]

Correct. But them being a 2-time veteran wasn't relevant either way. Which is my key point.

For the record, Falco is way more popular than Wolf overall, so the cut was the smarter option to please the most. The fact he wasn't much decloned is the issue, however.

Ice Climbers never made sense for a character in the first place so i'm not sad they gone.

 

[TJ-Works]

So, only Bowser, Bowser Jr. (and the Koopalings), Rosalina, Meta Knight and Dark Pit get special treatment for victory themes...

Most of them are also reused from Brawl. Not exactly disappointed, but why didn't they bother with making new mixes for the older series when they made new jingles for the new series, the Koopa crew, Rosalina and Dark Pit?

Ehh, as much as I adore music and OSTs, the victory themes aren't any concern for me. As long as I recognise the jingles, that's good enough for me.

Also, really? You people are already debating Smash 5's roster?! I don't even want to think about that now...

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Ice Climbers never made sense for a character in the first place so i'm not sad they gone.

Eh, a fun double character retro? Made sense to me. I liked 'em, but the cut is understandable.

The other cuts are worse since they didn't have a good excuse. Wolf and Lucas' specials seem to have been incorporated into Fox/Falco and Ness' customs. Too bad their normal moves were more unique. -_-

Snake is a much worse cut. Since he was very unique. Same with Squirtle and Ivysaur. PT was cut himself due to Transformations being gone, at least. So 3 we don't know why they were cut. Squirtle could be considered replaced by Greninja, I guess?

 

[Pyra]

Villager can counter blue shells as they're about to strike too.

Because neutral special.

I love playing as him more and more.

 

[Frostwraith]

What if every character had their own individual victory jingle? That would be cool.

Some ideas:
Luigi - Based on Luigi's Mansion theme
Peach - Based on Super Mario 64's Peach Castle theme
Zelda - Based on Zelda's Lullaby or perhaps the Ballad of the Goddess
Sheik - Based on her leitmotif from Ocarina of Time
Ganondorf - Based on his iconic theme
Toon Link - Based on the Outset Island theme from Wind Waker
Palutena - Based on Kid Icarus: Uprising's main theme

Also, I like the new announcer and the new victory song and how everything is very coordinated:

1. Character does win animation while the announcer says "The winner is..."
2. Dramatic pause as soon as character finishes the pose and the announcer yells the character's name
3. Idle animation of the winner and results screen music starts playing

With the dramatic pause added while keeping idle animations and a background stage, it feels like a mix of Melee's win screen with Brawl's. Add the fact the results screen theme is a remix of a SSB64 song...

 

[TJ-Works]

What if every character had their own individual victory jingle? That would be cool.

Some ideas:
Luigi - Based on Luigi's Mansion theme
Peach - Based on Super Mario 64's Peach Castle theme
Zelda - Based on Zelda's Lullaby or perhaps the Ballad of the Goddess
Sheik - Based on her leitmotif from Ocarina of Time
Ganondorf - Based on his iconic theme
Toon Link - Based on the Outset Island theme from Wind Waker
Palutena - Based on Kid Icarus: Uprising's main theme

Also, I like the new announcer and the new victory song and how everything is very coordinated:

1. Character does win animation while the announcer says "The winner is..."
2. Dramatic pause as soon as character finishes the pose and the announcer yells the character's name
3. Idle animation of the winner and results screen music starts playing

With the dramatic pause added while keeping idle animations and a background stage, it feels like a mix of Melee's win screen with Brawl's. Add the fact the results screen theme is a remix of a SSB64 song...

Yeh, those jingles would be sweet. But I wouldn't consider them top priority, which is probably why they remain unchanged. The results screen IS awesome, though.

I'm looking forward to all the songs that'll be on the Wii U version.

 

[KaBlamJamDan]

HOLY **** MY EARS!

I WONDER IF SONIC GOT ANY AWESOME REM-

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i guess im fine with th-

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Oh

Oh god

why

why

 

[Frostwraith]

The reason I'm not disappointed with them reusing Brawl's victory themes is thanks to the Zelda series victory jingle. It just sounds great.

And Dark Pit's victory theme just sounds amazing. Like new Gerudo Valley remix levels of amazing. (Why yes, I have a liking for acoustic guitars. Can't never have enough of the amazing sound they make.)

 

[Wario Bros.]

I'm so damn in love with the menu theme.

Also, it seems the demo gives you coins no matter what (I got 34 coins just for quitting the match right away).

 

[Pyra]

HOLY **** MY EARS!

I WONDER IF SONIC GOT ANY AWESOME REM-

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i guess im fine with th-

oh

Oh

Oh god

why

why

I laughed way too hard at your reaction to Green Hill Zone's track.
I like all the tracks as they are, but my sides hurt from laughing just now.

 

[Frostwraith]

Speaking of acoustic guitar epicness with Gerudo Valley and Dark Pit... The Fire Emblem song, With Mila's Divine Protection, remixed from Brawl is back.

I now know the themes I'll be playing on Smash Run whenever using Ganondorf, Dark Pit and Robin. Oh yes!

 

[FlareHabanero]

HOLY **** MY EARS!

I WONDER IF SONIC GOT ANY AWESOME REM-

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i guess im fine with th-

oh

Oh

Oh god

why

why

I never did have much problems with Sonic not getting a lot of remixes, considering many of the songs stand on their own.

 

[Soul.]

So, is Smash 4 Dedede better than Brawl Dedede.

 

[Deleted member]

I wanna find every person that said Falco was getting cut and Wolf returning for Smash 4 and laugh at them.

Yeah, I think people've been saying that before the final roster was shown. I was always expecting Wolf to get cut, though.

 

[Autumn ♫]

So, is Smash 4 Dedede better than Brawl Dedede.

Seeing how he has a Waddle Dee belt, I'd say yes.

 

[Substitution]

I'm still disappointed they didn't use this:

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

So, is Smash 4 Dedede better than Brawl Dedede.

Not by my standard

I hate his new Final Smash and the lack of Waddle Dee's

 

[Frostwraith]

The Kongo Jungle theme from Smash 64 is available on the 3DS version. Yes, there's Smash 64 music on this game!

Returning from Melee, the Temple song from the Zelda series.

As you know, there's two songs per stage on the 3DS version with a lot of bonus songs that can be listened to and played on Smash Run. They will likely be part of the My Music feature on the Wii U version, playing on normal stages there.

 

[FlareHabanero]

So, is Smash 4 Dedede better than Brawl Dedede.

There are good qualities about the character, but at the same time King Dedede won't have his infamous chain grab anymore. It's almost like they redesigned King Dedede to compensate for the loss of some of his infamous tactics.

 

[Pazzo.]

So, is Smash 4 Dedede better than Brawl Dedede.

That's... amazing.. N-Air and F-Air both look so great now