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If the lie is a lie then it's that, a lie. But if the truth is a lie, it's a lie. A lie doesn't inherently mean "flip the truth value of whatever it was" so you can't invert "lie" with another lie."If a lie is a lie then the lie must be the truth but the truth must be a lie and the lie must be the truth."
But say you can: if a lie could, for whatever reason, be a lie of its own regard, that only implies that the only two values it could have are whatever the truth was and whatever the lie was, and not any other lie.
The reason why that doesn't work is:
What if I say my avatar is green. That's a lie right? And what is that lie? Well, it's just a lie. But if you invert that lie "my avatar is red", that means the lie couldn't have been one of several other lies (e.g. "my avatar is blue"). Which is absurd. So a lying lie is still just a lie, not any truth.
HOWEVER/ADDENDUM:
"This statement is a lie" is a paradox. If that statement were to be a lie, then it would be the truth, which would in turn make it a lie ad infinitum.
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