Social Smash 4 Social 6.0 - 『ONE YEAR OF SOCIAL 6.0!』

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

ew mighty no. 9 discussion

Spoiler: mfw

 

[allison]

I tried learning Spanish for a couple years and it was really hard, though I'm aware that being a native Spanish speaker learning English would be a lot harder.

 

[Digital Hazard]

I tried learning Spanish for a couple years and it was really hard, though I'm aware that being a native Spanish speaker learning English would be a lot harder.

I'm a native spanish speaker and I honestly think learning english has become easier. Why? Because it's freaking everywhere. The only reason I'm sure most people in my town still can't get the least grasp on it is because they're lazy on that matter.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Trying to speak "appropriate" English can a rather tough if you've experienced a lot of cursing though.

 

[allison]

I'm a native spanish speaker and I honestly think learning english has become easier. Why? Because it's freaking everywhere. The only reason I'm sure most people in my town still can't get the least grasp on it is because they're lazy on that matter.

I guess I figured learning English would be difficult because it's honestly a pretty ridiculous language. The only consistent thing is its inconsistency. "I before E, except after C, and whenever we feel like it."

 

[Digital Hazard]

Trying to speak "appropriate" English can a rather tough if you've experienced a lot of cursing though.

Point there. The only words I see people using in english are very basic one like "love" and "happy", or insults. A lot.

I guess I figured learning English would be difficult because it's honestly a pretty ridiculous language. The only consistent thing is its inconsistency. "I before E, except after C, and whenever we feel like it."

I guess it's been easier for me to get used to it seeing how our TV cable for some reason only transmitted US channels for a while and how I've been sheltered playing untranslated video games in my childhood.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Inafune isn't even bothering with damage control. If his statement about Mighty No. 9's release being "better than nothing" is anything to go by.

He has given up.

Leave it to Sonic Twitter to drive the point in.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

God I love this twitter account.

But yeah I want to play the game first hand before I judge it in this situation.

People said the controls were not great for Star Fox Zero, yet I almost no problems using them after half an hour to an hour in. So it is middle of the road best to judge for yourself I say.

 

[Ryu_Ken]

At least Rise of Lyric didn't mark the death of a franchise just as it began.

​

Sir, are you aware that you have used the exact same words Master Power used in his post?

At least Rise of Lyric didn't spell the death of a franchise

I believe this is what they call plagiarizing...

And that is a blatant crime that a blatant criminal like you must be chastised for.
Terribly sorry for the interruption Master Power. Go on.

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So I scored myself a part as Anonydeath in the Hyperdimension Neptunia Fandub

The Skype group is a bubbly bunch of young women and girls who managed to get cast as well. I kinda feel like I'm in middle school again because at that time in my life 90% of my friends and people I did assignments with were girls. Not because I'm attractive IRL or anything.....
*ahem* *cough* *cough* *cough* *phew*
That's better.

 

[Digital Hazard]

​

Sir, are you aware that you have used the exact same words Master Power used in his post?

I believe this is what they call plagiarizing...

And that is a blatant crime that a blatant criminal like you must be chastised for.
Terribly sorry for the interruption Master Power. Go on.

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So I scored myself a part as Anonydeath in the Hyperdimension Neptunia Fandub

The Skype group is a bubbly bunch of young women and girls who managed to get cast as well. I kinda feel like I'm in middle school again because at that time in my life 90% of my friends and people I did assignments with were girls. Not because I'm attractive IRL or anything.....
*ahem* *cough* *cough* *cough* *phew*
That's better.

I like to call it, expansion.

As Sonic is a pre-stablished frnchise from 25 years ago while Mighty No. 9 just had a first instalment.

*sits waiting for another Phoenix Wright-esque reply*

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm very grateful for the TV show. It is easily one of the best things that have some out of the Sonic franchise in a while.

Also this.

TV show and the comic are the best parts by far.

 

[Yoshi-hara]

I wonder how much of that MN9 Kickstarter money ACTUALLY went into developing the game.

 

[Ryu_Ken]

I like to call it, expansion.

As Sonic is a pre-stablished frnchise from 25 years ago while Mighty No. 9 just had a first instalment.

*sits waiting for another Phoenix Wright-esque reply*

You asked for it.

And since we're on the topic of English....

Grammar is the number one thing that ticks me off the most about it!

-----English Schminglish-----

To start off, let's talk about the many ways one can say the same thing. (Hope you don't mind if I use your post because it is a perfect example of what I will be discussing) For example, take this phrase, "I like to call it, expansion." This expresses two independent clauses, and the clause after the comma can be considered a nominative sentence if were written as "Expansion." This is part of why I don't like English: there are many, MANY different ways to say the exact same thing! You could say "Expansion. I like to call it that," "I like to call it expansion," or even "Calling it expansion is what I like." Fluent English speakers aren't too bothered by this, but to someone trying to learn the English language, it only prompts confusion and indecisiveness. The excessive phrases are unnecessary!

Secondly, the written English language makes room for many spelling mistakes. "As Sonic is a pre-stablished frnchise from 25 years ago while Mighty No. 9 just had a first instalment." I understand what you're saying and what you meant by those words I highlighted (though it is an incomplete thought, but that's not the point). However, to someone who's never seen those words before, it can cause much confusion. Either the person will get stuck on these words or they'll mistakenly assume them as valid words in the English dictionary. Spelling is one of the most mistaken parts of the English grammar, and it's CONTAGIOUS. The reason for this is because most English speakers subconsciously do pick up on these mistakes, but they don't think much about it because in their minds the meaning of the word in context isn't undermined. Woe is for the foreigner who hasn't fully grasped English, and their confusion only increases!

Finally, English is... well, constantly evolving. Every so often, not only does the Webster dictionary get thicker: so does the Urban dictionary. We have gone from "ofer horn rate" (over the whale's road) to "Nay, as they dare. I will bite my thumb at them" (basically the 17th century way of flipping someone off) and to "LOL GG GET REKED M8" (the gamer's classic taunt). English is tentative. It's always moving to sympathize with people, to make them laugh, and to make our rather simple lives sophisticated. Interesting. Fun. That doesn't come without sacrifices, though. The one thing that's been sacrificed to accomplish this... is grammar. It gets tiring and boring talking like the people in William Shakespeare's tales, and it doesn't make sense to write words that don't "sound" the way we hear them in our heads. We want to understand each other as simply as possible, but once we reach that point, once we grasp the language, and once we understand the rules....

We break them. And this is why foreigners hate learning the All American International World Renowned English language. Nothing further to add, Your Honor.
-----Agrument End-----

 

[Moydow]

instalment

I'm afraid you are mistaken on this one. You see, "instalment" is actually a valid spelling; it is only in the US that it is spelt "installment"!

(US vs. UK/Irish/Commonwealth English probably only furthers your point, though.)

 

[Mr. Johan]

I forgot SMT X FE is out Friday.

Reviews have been surprisingly decent.

Gonna have to get it.

 

[jarbAin]

Steam sale will commence tomorrow. It's probably time to get some games that are not Mighty No. 9.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I wonder how much of that MN9 Kickstarter money ACTUALLY went into developing the game.

reported around 60% because Kickstarter takes a cut of it if I recall.

 

[The-Power-Within]

Since the Steam sale is starting tomorrow, I'm gonna try to grab CSGO. I know a friend who plays the game quite often, and I'd like to join in on that. Also because the game has been on my wishlist for far too long and I think it's time I finally give the game a shot instead of buying virtual hats.

 

[Ryu_Ken]

Gosh dangit people on CCC. Stop stealing my chances at landing the roles at the very last second!
*sigh* the voice acting life sure is pretty competitive.

I'm afraid you are mistaken on this one. You see, "instalment" is actually a valid spelling; it is only in the US that it is spelt "installment"!

(US vs. UK/Irish/Commonwealth English probably only furthers your point, though.)

Huh. You learn something new everyday.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

God I love this twitter account.

But yeah I want to play the game first hand before I judge it in this situation.

People said the controls were not great for Star Fox Zero, yet I almost no problems using them after half an hour to an hour in. So it is middle of the road best to judge for yourself I say.

Pretty much. I mean, it's fine to not get a game because of bad reviews. But if you don't play the game at all(not even try it out), it's kind of silly to talk bad about if you have zero experience with it. It's one thing to note why you don't think it's for you, but that's pretty different from bashing a game... you never played.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Pretty much. I mean, it's fine to not get a game because of bad reviews. But if you don't play the game at all(not even try it out), it's kind of silly to talk bad about if you have zero experience with it. It's one thing to note why you do think it's for you, but that's pretty different from bashing a game... you never played.

It's good for a second opinion if you are unsure on something.

I avoided Rise of Lyric due to that when I was on the fence.

This idk seems either strongly hated or people say it is fine so I could go either way.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

It's good for a second opinion if you are unsure on something.

I avoided Rise of Lyric due to that when I was on the fence.

This idk seems either strongly hated or people say it is fine so I could go either way.

RoL is mixed. Many say it's fairly bad before the patches, but not particularly special with them. It's a decent game after you get the patches downloaded, but it doesn't stand out either. Sadly, it stood out due to its glitches. Sonic 06, one of the games I do like(but is highly flawed, won't deny that), had more than that. Sure, it had glitches(but most of them you had to go out of your way for), and bugs(showed up often), but had some fun moments, and imo, a lot of fun gameplay. Regular Sonic, Shadow, Silver, Omega, Knuckles(not Rouge, but I'll explain why soon), Amy, and Blaze played fine for me for the most part. There's some obvious bugs, and blatantly, mach speed section was difficult and for many, not fun.

That said, Rouge I would like more if she wasn't bugged and didn't have the horrid Ring Box Toss. Tails has is too, which is why Rouge is under the "don't like" section. To note, Tails is far worse since flying with him is barely controllable. I'd argue he's the worst in the game.

Beyond that, I only found Silver as an annoying boss to face. Everybody else were vastly more fair.

I gotta still play(and buy) RoL.

 

[mario123007]

These videos always drive me up a wall.

• Their biggest objection to Korean were all flimsy. A different alphabet and sentence structure are to be expected when learning a new language.If you can't even handle that much, language learning is not for you.
• "Make reasonable choices"- That's not even written in Sanskrit. It's literally "Make reasonable choices" written in that script, not even translated, just the English words written in Devanagari script.
• Speaking (or at least pronouncing) Japanese is infinitely easier than writing it.
• Not words, letters have four different shapes depending on their placement in Arabic.
• >Dutch is hard.
• The main difficulty for Chinese are the tones indeed, which is alien to most people who know an Indo-European language. The grammar is extremely simple though.

Well, that's my rant.

Well this chart pretty much makes sense:

Trying to speak "appropriate" English can a rather tough if you've experienced a lot of cursing though.

Yep... glad I did learn appropriate English...

 

[FalKoopa]

>implying Watchmojo attempts to do heavy research on the subjects they cover

I don't really care who or WatchMojo is. Just like PushDustIn goes on a tirade when he sees a case of bad gaminh journalism, same goes for me and languages.

Trying to speak "appropriate" English can a rather tough if you've experienced a lot of cursing though.

Appropriate or Formal English is the easier part, when you're not a native speaker. When I joined here in 2012, I had been taught English for 14 years (from Kindergarten right upto 12th grade) and yet I struggled with the informal English because I had never learnt or been taught how to use English in an informal setting.

-Chart-

The chart seems right for a native English speaker. But as you're a Chinese speaker, it's not quite accurate for you (Japanese should be easier, for example.)

I do wonder why Hebrew is medium but Arabic is hard though.

 

[mario123007]

The chart seems right for a native English speaker. But as you're a Chinese speaker, it's not quite accurate for you (Japanese should be easier, for example.)

Ironically I did poor on my Chinese subject back in high school, that's why I choose English Literature department for university. I can speak Chinese doesn't mean I am good at reading the old classics and poems.

Chinese... even you know how to speak, if you want to boost up to another level like knowing 諺語and 成語, it will consume your soul.

 

[allison]

Well this chart pretty much makes sense:


Yep... glad I did learn appropriate English...

The funny thing is I was complaining about learning Spanish being hard and it's like the easiest one on the list

 

[mario123007]

The funny thing is I was complaining about learning Spanish being hard and it's like the easiest one on the list

My university has Spanish Literature department, with Taiwan having most countries with diplomatic relationship are Spanish speaking countries. Spanish is also important in Taiwan.

 

[praline]

Well this chart pretty much makes sense:


Yep... glad I did learn appropriate English...

English would be in the hard category if you didn't speak it already.

 

[FalKoopa]

English would be in the hard category if you didn't speak it already.

Nah, not really. English pronunciation is a huge mess, but English grammar is generally simpler, especially if you speak another Indian or European language.

Of all the languages I've studied something about - English, Hindi, French, German, Bengali, Russian, Odia, Japanese, Sanskrit - English grammar is the simplest.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Of all the languages I've studied something about - English, Hindi, French, German, Bengali, Russian, Odia, Japanese, Sanskrit - English grammar is the simplest.

I haven't even heard of some of these languages.

 

[FalKoopa]

I haven't even heard of some of these languages.

Which ones?
Bengali and Odia are spoken in East India and have some 210 million and 33 million speakers respectively. And Odia is my native language, actually.

 

[Mythra]

Random Thought: It is possible to sue Inafune for the Mighty No. 9 fiasco?

I know it is possible to demand a refund when a Kickstarter project doesn't reach its goal. But in this case the goal was met and a product was delivered, however the product is very flawed; boring gameplay, errors in dialogues, bad graphics and many glitches.

I wonder if people that backed it will go the extra mile and ask a refund.

Anyway, at least Inafune admitted his guilt.

 

[FalKoopa]

Random Thought: It is possible to sue Inafune for the Mighty No. 9 fiasco?

I know it is possible to demand a refund when a Kickstarter project doesn't reach its goal. But in this case the goal was met and a product was delivered, however the product is very flawed; boring gameplay, errors in dialogues, bad graphics and many glitches.

I wonder if people that backed it will go the extra mile and ask a refund.

Anyway, at least Inafune admitted his guilt.

I don't think so. Legally speaking, he didn't do anything wrong.

Kickstarter's terms don't cover anything about the quality of the product. He asked people to fund Mighty No. 9, people funded him for Mighty No 9 and he gave them Mighty No 9. While the game's quality is bad, he didn't mislead his fans about what he was making (a Mega Man like shooter and platformer), so he can't be sued for that.

Unless he used the $4 million elsewhere, in which case he can be sued. But proving that he used the Kickstarter money elsewhere is probably impossible.

 

[Mr. Johan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K_jTsWU2gk

Ayyy Pegasus Boots for Linkle.

Also, Pinkle. And Pink Link. And Irene!Agitha. Noice.

 

[Mythra]

I don't think so. Legally speaking, he didn't do anything wrong.

Kickstarter's terms don't cover anything about the quality of the product. He asked people to fund Mighty No. 9, people funded him for Mighty No 9 and he gave them Mighty No 9. While the game's quality is bad, he didn't mislead his fans about what he was making (a Mega Man like shooter and platformer), so he can't be sued for that.

Unless he used the $4 million elsewhere, in which case he can be sued. But proving that he used the Kickstarter money elsewhere is probably impossible.

Inb4 Inafune bought recently a Chevy Camaro and other expensive stuff.

Seems the unsatisfied backers are toast, but Im sure a group of mad people will try to ask a direct refund or put another useless petition on change dot org to ask the money back because yolo.

Hopefully the animated series will not have Pizza explosions

 

[Knuckles the Knuckles]

Mischief Makers needs to come back. At the very least on Virtual Console. I have just discovered this gem and Im blown away.

 

[AEMehr]

It's dizzzappointing, but not flat out bad.
Poor dezzzign choiceszzz are mixed in around the place, meszzzy optimization, not truly difficult. There zzztill are good thingzzz in the game, it'zzz just been dragged along for so long to the point where it'zzz hard to zzzee them still in there.

I like Shade's level dezzzign for example, but the execution wazzz very lackluzzzter. I zzztarted with "wow, thiszzz is pretty neat!"; then I died near the end and had to restart from the beginning, and it waszzzn't so neat anymore lol.

Inafune is right in zzzaying things ended the way they did becauszzze of it being zzzo Multiplatform. If it went Szzzteam w/ a console generation szzzpecific set of systemszzz (PSzzz3/360/WiiU) (PSzzz4/X1/WiiU) things would have been much better on them and the game azzz a whole. The Vita and 3DS verzzzions probably screwed them over too, and thoszzze still have to come out.

All in all it's a shame they bit off more than they can chew.

- - - - -
Oh and the character gimmicks are pretty bad here. It really just comes down to the girls though. Cyro is too punny, Dyna izzz too zzzappy, and Call has nothing redeemable outside of design. And they said they were going to explore that kinda or something and all we got was Call questioning why all of the other bots (i.e. the more interesting characters) were more humanlike and thought of it as a design flaw. Very sad to see the character ruined by an incomplete design choice.

edit:
OH and D getting in while E got nothing more than a little easter egg is lame. like why??? i wasn't even big on e (I voted H but wanted Pink from the getgo) but that's so biased and unfair lol

 

[Frizz]

I think Watchmojo.com got hacked. A ton of their videos have been altered to say "HACKED BY OBNOXIOUS AND PEIN", followed by a link to their Twitter.

 

[aldelaro5]

FalKoopa so i got vnc working on my linux and YOU can too

If you don;t know what vnc is, it's a more open remote desktop protocol than microsoft's ( ) rdp. You can use rdp, but.....we'll get to thjat later a lot of solutionm just doesn;t work.

But first, you ahve 2 options, 1: have a virtual x session opened whenever someone connects, you can;t view this session from your local display (it's hidden), but you can on the client. Not ideal because on cinnamon, it refuses to not go into fallback

The other choice is simple, you take control of the local X display which is probably whatr you want.

There's multiple ways to do this and I have tried them all, vncserver, x0vncserver, x11vncserver and vnc module loaded on X THERE'S TOO MUCH X AHHHHHHH (why they named it liked this btw?).

vncserver.....it uses virtual stuff so no. You can make it go on startup easilly even with systemd though.

x0vncserver, it controls your real dispaly and it's really good at it, the problem is IT CAN'T START WITH SYSTEMD FOR THE LIFE OF ME! (I tried so hard, it doesn't work). Had to use cinnamon autostart which is annoying because if I ever log out or if the thign fails, it fails......

x11vnc, this was so promising, it uses real disaply, was relatively fast and was fine with systemd with some tricks. The problem is it;s buggy, jsut scrolling through the cinnamon menu makes it crash (no joke).

x vnc module, it;s a weird one, you need to add a conf file to your x to load a vnc module so it always is working. The problem is altough it works and I like it, IT'S SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SLOW! It takes an eternity to update soemthign like showing the desktop background......your inputs are very fluid, but the visual sent to the clients are very bad. You never have to worry about thsi not running however, but it;s so bad.

So you guess it, after messing a lot with this, I found x0vncserver to be the best, but you can only restart the pc and you can;t logout or it will break everything. I haven't tried lock however.

Btw, fun fact, because Windows requires a terminal server liocense to have more than one session running at the same time, you already would save money if you would go for the virtual route

Anyway so how you do this?

Well I am on arch so it might be different but basically, you install vncserver (it has x0vncserver included) and you want to lauch vncpasswd to type a password for your connection, failure to do so will mean that if I had your IP, I coudl control you (you don't want that and,......I probably don't too ).

After this is done you just lauch it by doing x0vncserver -disaplay :0 -passwordfile ~/.vnc/passwd and it will launch.

The cool thing with vnc is it pretty much works everywhere, pc or even my phone!

It's admitably laggy, but it's fast enough to get what's going on most of the time.

So there you ahve it, oh btw, if you want to vnc outside of your LAN (you probably do), you have to forward a port, YES I KNOW IT'S PAINFULL IF YOU KNOW NOTHIGN AOBUT NETWORK,. BUT JSUT DO IT!

Anyway, it uses port 5900.

Btw a lot of people don;t get why you ahve to do this soemtime so allow me to expalin.

LAN = local area netowrkm, this is likely your home when your gateway (your router) and your devices lives happily in their world. You see, because of how much we run out of IP nowadays, they have to do soemthign called NAT so that they can be translated into soemthing else so we have more IP to spare. the private network used by most is 192.168.something.soemthing <- thi can be reused how many time you want so this is why multiple people have their network set that way. These addresses are in your loacl network, if you want to talk to your phone from your pc and they are both connected to that local netowrk, your router will do that job if you ping it.

WAN = wide area network, thios is where it makes all sense. Your ISP gives you ONE address so this is your public address. This is the only address that is seen to the outside world (no not the grassy area next to your house, no, the internet lol). Your router is doign some NAT to know how it can make the WAN to LAN transition (it;s a bit complicated, it assign a port number and urgh, it;s annyoign to explain, just know it can do this and it';s kind of a hack, btu it works).

so now here's the problem, imagine you are on another network and you want to vnc your vnc you neatly setup. well what do you do? You can't use your private IP of the machine cause you aren't in that LAN, you neeed to join it from the WAN. So you enter your public IP with port 5900 and then what????

Well it will ATTEMPT to reach it and then try to go to your router but then the router is like WHAT THE **** DO i DO WITH THIS??? and because it has a firewall it will jsut reject it. This is because your router doesn;t know that it should pick these packet and forward them to your machine on your network via port 5900.

This is why you have to port forward incomming packets soemtime: your router needs to know that it can accept these packets and forward them to a LAN ip via the same port. So now you connect to it, your router gets this and he's like OMG I KNOW WHAT TO WITH THIS NOW1 and it will just forward these to your pc and then you have a connection.

As for why you don;t need to do this for stuff like webpages.......it always uses port 80 so it;s always open basically. it's just for some application or some firewall, it just needs to know to forward these.

There so you can remote desktop from your phone away from your pc

 

[The-Power-Within]

Well, unless I'm seeing wrong today, or this is a glitch on my end, it appears one of the games to not go on sale on the Steam sale is indeed Counter Strike: Global Offensive.

FML.

At least TF2 and Overwatch are still here for me...

Edit: Yep, it was a glitch. So yay.

 

[FalKoopa]

FalKoopa so i got vnc working on my linux and YOU can too

If you don;t know what vnc is, it's a more open remote desktop protocol than microsoft's ( ) rdp. You can use rdp, but.....we'll get to thjat later a lot of solutionm just doesn;t work.

But first, you ahve 2 options, 1: have a virtual x session opened whenever someone connects, you can;t view this session from your local display (it's hidden), but you can on the client. Not ideal because on cinnamon, it refuses to not go into fallback

The other choice is simple, you take control of the local X display which is probably whatr you want.

There's multiple ways to do this and I have tried them all, vncserver, x0vncserver, x11vncserver and vnc module loaded on X THERE'S TOO MUCH X AHHHHHHH (why they named it liked this btw?).

vncserver.....it uses virtual stuff so no. You can make it go on startup easilly even with systemd though.

x0vncserver, it controls your real dispaly and it's really good at it, the problem is IT CAN'T START WITH SYSTEMD FOR THE LIFE OF ME! (I tried so hard, it doesn't work). Had to use cinnamon autostart which is annoying because if I ever log out or if the thign fails, it fails......

x11vnc, this was so promising, it uses real disaply, was relatively fast and was fine with systemd with some tricks. The problem is it;s buggy, jsut scrolling through the cinnamon menu makes it crash (no joke).

x vnc module, it;s a weird one, you need to add a conf file to your x to load a vnc module so it always is working. The problem is altough it works and I like it, IT'S SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SLOW! It takes an eternity to update soemthign like showing the desktop background......your inputs are very fluid, but the visual sent to the clients are very bad. You never have to worry about thsi not running however, but it;s so bad.

So you guess it, after messing a lot with this, I found x0vncserver to be the best, but you can only restart the pc and you can;t logout or it will break everything. I haven't tried lock however.

Btw, fun fact, because Windows requires a terminal server liocense to have more than one session running at the same time, you already would save money if you would go for the virtual route

Anyway so how you do this?

Well I am on arch so it might be different but basically, you install vncserver (it has x0vncserver included) and you want to lauch vncpasswd to type a password for your connection, failure to do so will mean that if I had your IP, I coudl control you (you don't want that and,......I probably don't too ).

After this is done you just lauch it by doing x0vncserver -disaplay :0 -passwordfile ~/.vnc/passwd and it will launch.

The cool thing with vnc is it pretty much works everywhere, pc or even my phone!

It's admitably laggy, but it's fast enough to get what's going on most of the time.

So there you ahve it, oh btw, if you want to vnc outside of your LAN (you probably do), you have to forward a port, YES I KNOW IT'S PAINFULL IF YOU KNOW NOTHIGN AOBUT NETWORK,. BUT JSUT DO IT!

Anyway, it uses port 5900.

Btw a lot of people don;t get why you ahve to do this soemtime so allow me to expalin.

LAN = local area netowrkm, this is likely your home when your gateway (your router) and your devices lives happily in their world. You see, because of how much we run out of IP nowadays, they have to do soemthign called NAT so that they can be translated into soemthing else so we have more IP to spare. the private network used by most is 192.168.something.soemthing <- thi can be reused how many time you want so this is why multiple people have their network set that way. These addresses are in your loacl network, if you want to talk to your phone from your pc and they are both connected to that local netowrk, your router will do that job if you ping it.

WAN = wide area network, thios is where it makes all sense. Your ISP gives you ONE address so this is your public address. This is the only address that is seen to the outside world (no not the grassy area next to your house, no, the internet lol). Your router is doign some NAT to know how it can make the WAN to LAN transition (it;s a bit complicated, it assign a port number and urgh, it;s annyoign to explain, just know it can do this and it';s kind of a hack, btu it works).

so now here's the problem, imagine you are on another network and you want to vnc your vnc you neatly setup. well what do you do? You can't use your private IP of the machine cause you aren't in that LAN, you neeed to join it from the WAN. So you enter your public IP with port 5900 and then what????

Well it will ATTEMPT to reach it and then try to go to your router but then the router is like WHAT THE **** DO i DO WITH THIS??? and because it has a firewall it will jsut reject it. This is because your router doesn;t know that it should pick these packet and forward them to your machine on your network via port 5900.

This is why you have to port forward incomming packets soemtime: your router needs to know that it can accept these packets and forward them to a LAN ip via the same port. So now you connect to it, your router gets this and he's like OMG I KNOW WHAT TO WITH THIS NOW1 and it will just forward these to your pc and then you have a connection.

As for why you don;t need to do this for stuff like webpages.......it always uses port 80 so it;s always open basically. it's just for some application or some firewall, it just needs to know to forward these.

There so you can remote desktop from your phone away from your pc

I do know (very basic) stuff about networking.

This was interesting and all, but my laptop is almost literally next to me 24x7, so I probably don't have much use for it now. A lot of the stuff flew over my head, I have to admit.