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People these days just expect to get everything they want and when someone this different to that they get all pissy. Corrin is probably gonna be a funner charactrr than half the ones people wanted.
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I am honestly extremely excited to play him. His moveset looks incredibly fun and probably more than a good number of existing characters.People these days just expect to get everything they want and when someone this different to that they get all pissy. Corrin is probably gonna be a funner charactrr than half the ones people wanted.
I won't lie; I think the game works perfectly as a single player/one character game. Especially with how bad the A.I. is. Having a second playable character could be neat, or third. Which is meant to be Flora and Killiac.If they remade it and added the things they planned but dropped to get it out before Ocarina of Time that'd be more than cool to m
Killiac... Which one was that?I won't lie; I think the game works perfectly as a single player/one character game. Especially with how bad the A.I. is. Having a second playable character could be neat, or third. Which is meant to be Flora and Killiac.
He's the Pirate. Originally named Cozi among the beta/plans. I forgot what Flora was first named. You also could name Brian, as he was simply called "Magician".Killiac... Which one was that?
Am I the only one who wasn't fooled by Greninja's reveal?My top 5 best and worst?
Worst:
5.Little Mac's -it just didn't appeal to me. Not sure why, I just wasn't super hyped for him.
4.Bowser Jr's -Really cool trailer, too bad we already knew he was in the game.
3.Bayonetta's-Got me kind of salty she was the ballot winner
2.Duck Hunt- An okay trailer, too bad we already knew they were playable
1..Greninja's-Intentionally making me think Mewtwo's playable and then giving me a Pokemon that really didn't deserve the slot, along with Squirtle and Ivysaur's deconfirmation really mad me salty.
Best
5.Mii Fighters- Seeing Reggie and Iwata fight it out and the reveal of the amiibos really did it for me in this trailer. If I was a supporter of the Mii at the time, this would probably be higher on the list.
4.Rosalina's- After several months of no newcomer, Rosalina's got me super hyped especially since it marked the beginning of a bunch of reveal trailers. That and Rosalina was my most wanted Mario character too.
3.Corrin's- I love Fire Emblem, and I'm super hyped for Fates, the only thing I really wish is that it was Aqua/Azura who was playable, but Corrin's still incredibly unique, so I'm content.
2. Palutena's- Seeing an anime style of Smash Bros. plus my 3rd most wanted newcomer being revealed playable and Dark Pit discussion was super enjoyable.
1.Lucina and Robin's- It revealed 3 awesome characters, one which is my current main.It also marked the end of the reign of the Gematsu leak, which for the most part, was treated as a God. As an active Chrom detractor (nothing against him, I just wanted Robin, Lucina, and Roy more.) the trailer proved my predictions, and Chrom did become a Final Smash, which I was happy to see.
Honorable mention to the Wii Fit Trainer's, who was the character I was hyped to see at Smash 4's first E3. Megaman and Villager, while cool, weren't enough to hype me up for the newcomers, Wii Fit Trainer was.
I could already tell it wasn't Mewtwo as soon as I saw an upside down figure that weaved signs with his hands...Am I the only one who wasn't fooled by Greninja's reveal?
Like you could easily tell right away it wasn't Mewtwo, whether intentional or not. However, people see what they want to see and then get mad when what they see isn't the reality.
I saw so many reaction videos like that.
I was kind of fooled at first. Then I noticed something was up when he was charging his attack, which I couldn't quite identify until he launched it.Am I the only one who wasn't fooled by Greninja's reveal?
Like you could easily tell right away it wasn't Mewtwo, whether intentional or not. However, people see what they want to see and then get mad when what they see isn't the reality.
I saw so many reaction videos like that.
I hadn't played X/Y at that time, so I didn't know what to expect.Am I the only one who wasn't fooled by Greninja's reveal?
Like you could easily tell right away it wasn't Mewtwo, whether intentional or not. However, people see what they want to see and then get mad when what they see isn't the reality.
I saw so many reaction videos like that.
The list isn't based on how good the character is, its based on first impressions, and since alot of people weren't happy with it, I placed it at number 1. That doesn't mean everyone hates it, but we have a right to complain.Well see the thing about that is that people's negative responses to Corrin are just wrong. I saw so many live reaction videis and people were like "what the **** Sakurai", "this is stupid!!" blah blah blah.
I do agree that FE has maybe too many characters, which is why I feel Roy shouldn't have been brought back. Funny how he was so heavily requested and hyped when leaked, yet he is the one who is almost a total clone of Marth. Yet when Corrin is revealed, and is nothing like Marth at all, everyone loses their minds just because he wasn't who they really wanted. And how many people were annoyed by Cloud's reveal despite him being "another sword character"? Not many. Then look at Corrin who is far from another sword character, much like Robin, and people lose their **** about his like two sword attacks.
His trailed was great, his inclusion is great.
I agree with this, however. Azura would have been amazing.
Ah yes that's who I thought you were talking about.He's the Pirate. Originally named Cozi among the beta/plans. I forgot what Flora was first named. You also could name Brian, as he was simply called "Magician".
Honestly, in some ways I feel like Aidyn Chronicles is a more complete version. It has a similar battle system, equipment, item you can buy(instead of simply get for free), multiple playable characters... although it's not made by the same team. Just a coincidence, really.
I dunno... We did eventually get Pac-Man and Mewtwo, so maybe they were hinting at them after all.At first I thought it was Palutena because the split second of the stormy clouds.
But after the balls were thrown, I did think it was Mewtwo at first. I think it wasn't until the Water Shuriken when I realized it wasn't Mewtwo.
I don't believe one bit Sakurai intended to make it look like it was Mewtwo on purpose. (Anti-)Hype combined with the human brain make people overanalyze things (like all those YCG tweets when the Shovel Knight rumor was hot) and see things that aren't there. ('Ridley is in the clouds!' 'Pac-Man is in Greninja's trailer!' 'Shulk is a photoshopped Little Mac!')
Lol totally agreed with you on this one. Except I will put it on No1 spot. I used to though it was a longshot, until I saw the new Mario Galaxy stage.4.Rosalina's- After several months of no newcomer, Rosalina's got me super hyped especially since it marked the beginning of a bunch of reveal trailers. That and Rosalina was my most wanted Mario character too.
I don't think they were, the brain is a weird thing after all (that's also why we see faces on trees, cars etc.) but I guess we'll never know unless Sakurai himself says they were indeed or not hinting to them.I dunno... We did eventually get Pac-Man and Mewtwo, so maybe they were hinting at them after all.
yet he got into smash 4 anyways. so you werent far off.When I first saw Little Mac's trailer I thought it was Ryu. Didn't even pay attention to the music.
I don't know why I thought Ryu would be in Smash 4 at that time.
That's the problem. People are just mad that we got Corrin instead of their most hyped characters, despite him looking to have a really fun and rather unique moveset. Just because he's another FE character and they feel that King K Rool is more deserving or would fit better.I'm honestly not even mad at Corrin for being lame and unoriginal. I just think they're a sign of the overinflation of FE characters in the series. Fire Emblem sells well now, yes, but it only started selling well once it started pandering to the waifu-loving otaku demographic with it's characters. Before then, it was a niche franchise at best.
If Corrin was a newcomer in the next game (that we're pretty certain will happen, Sakurai or no Sakurai), there'd be less dissent involved. As is, there's six (or eight if you count Fem!Robin and Fem!Corrin as alt. characters) Fire Emblem characters and only two Donkey Kong characters, even though DK sells a hell of a lot more than FE does naturally. And people are still clamoring for characters like Lyn, Chrom and etc. This isn't a FE spinoff, guys; the series has enough characters now.
There's a point where a series has reached the cap for what is considered acceptable representation. Mario has reached it, Pokemon is nearing it, but FE has exceeded it. It's not a massive franchise, it doesn't deserve to have the same amount of characters as friggin' Pokemon and Mario. Enough is enough.
A lot of people want characters like K.Rool, Wolf, Ridley and them. Big-name, popular characters who would fit well into the Smash roster (or are returning from previous titles), not characters from games that aren't even released in Western teritories yet. Where's the love for that crowd?
Roy's a veteran character, so he doesn't really have the same trials a newcomer does. People like veteran characters, which is why Wolf was so heavily campaigned for. Corrin is a newcomer, meaning that they had to prove Corrin was something the fans weren't going to leap down Nintendo's throat and claw them open about. Sure, there was salt, but what character reveal doesn't inevitably have salt associated with it?That's the problem. People are just mad that we got Corrin instead of their most hyped characters, despite him looking to have a really fun and rather unique moveset. Just because he's another FE character and they feel that King K Rool is more deserving or would fit better.
And again, where was this reaction when Roy was leaked/announced? At least Corrin's moveset is unique. Yet many people wanted Roy to return! Theae people are just hypocrites if that is the case.
Was Corrin a character I was originally hoping for? Nope, never even crossed my mind. But upon his reveal I saw how fun and neat he looks and I am happy with it, and really excited to play him even though none of my most wanted characters became DLC.
The fact of the matter is, Fire Emblem is becoming a much bigger deal more and more. Whether it is because of the "waifu-loving demographic" or not, it has become a big thing. So yes, it makes plenty of sense to have a good amount of characters in the game, especially from Sakurai's standpoint.
Instead of whining about who deserves it more just because their big name character didn't make the cut, and complaining about Corrin being another Fire Emblem character, why not actually judge him based on his moveset and gameplay, and fun factor?
"Wtf Sakurai another FE character...but my king k rool D:<" is all I see on these youtube reactions to Corrin.
Then later in the video, many of them go on to say "Hmm, okay he actually looks pretty cool"
Also comparing the franchises based on their number if characters is just silly and pointless.
And yet Roy adds less to the roster than Corrin.Roy's a veteran character, so he doesn't really have the same trials a newcomer does.
Well that bias towards veteran characters shouldn't exist. If people are going to be disappointed by Corrin yet hypes for Roy, a clone, just because he is a veteran, that is being hypocritical and has nothing to do with Corrin himself.Roy's a veteran character, so he doesn't really have the same trials a newcomer does. People like veteran characters, which is why Wolf was so heavily campaigned for. Corrin is a newcomer, meaning that they had to prove Corrin was something the fans weren't going to leap down Nintendo's throat and claw them open about. Sure, there was salt, but what character reveal doesn't inevitably have salt associated with it?
And what's so wrong with people having negative reactions to a reveal? It's not like they're demonizing people who like the character, they're fans like you or me who have things they want to see. People are naturally opinionated, that's just a fact of life. People having negative reactions to Corrin is just how opinions and people work.
Sure, FE is getting bigger, but it's still a niche franchise in terms of Nintendo's franchises. Show anybody Donkey Kong and they'll know who he is. Show somebody Ike and there's going to be a lot less people who know him. That's the difference.
Personally, I prefer the air.I'm calling it right now that Sakurai is going to revive another old Nintendo IP.
Particularly any of those that appeared in Captain Rainbow.
I feel this would be the best case scenario for the both directors. Sakurai can revive his all time favorite puzzle game while Kamiya can breathe new life into his favorite action title of all time. That way, we can have the cute fairy and the cute samurai on the NX and Smash.Personally, I prefer the air.
If Sakurai is reviving one of those characters, I'd rather have him tackle Lip instead. Leave Takamaru to the real action game expert (Kamiya) since he already said he got him covered.
Exactly. That's why it annoys me to see so many people angry about them "tricking" us by teasing Mewtwo. They were just blinded by their hype and saw Mewtwo when it was pretty easy to tell it wasn't.I don't really get how people thought was .
Seriously, the fingers were too flat and it was obvious he was charging a water attack.
Lucina shouldn't have been in smash 4... Thats one of the things that annoys me the most in Smash 4. Roy isn't really a clone. Sure he has similar moves but moves are going to be recycled. Roy was requested by many many people. He's the boy lolThe only reason why I hate that there's six FE characters is because three of them are clones. Lucina is the worst because she's literally a copy/paste with one edit. In Roy's case, he was already a clone to begin with, and seeing that Sakurai brought no changes to Mewtwo I knew Roy would be majorly similar. Which is fine, but Lucina should have been more separated from the two. At least Luigified if anything.
Out of the six, Ike is still my favorite, but that's until I try out that new dude. I heard he can turn into a dragon so that sounds cool.
If she shouldn't of been, she wouldn't be. Sakurai let characters like Duck Hunt and Cloud in, so there aren't any qualifications regarding playability.Lucina shouldn't have been in smash 4...
I'm gonna use this excuse every time somebody calls Young Link a clone.Roy isn't really a clone. Sure he has similar moves but moves are going to be recycled.
I fear you underestimate the *****iness of the fanbase, sir.People wouldn't be complaining as much, or it wouldn't be as bad if Lucina wasn't in the game.
I know how much the fanbase can complain. I've seen it lol. Its because Fire Emblem isn't as popular as other games like Mario and Zelda, so when FE gets a lot of attention people don't like it. And I'm a huge Fire Emblem fan, and even I think there's too many FE characters in smash.If she shouldn't of been, she wouldn't be. Sakurai let characters like Duck Hunt and Cloud in, so there aren't any qualifications regarding playability.
I'm gonna use this excuse every time somebody calls Young Link a clone.
But seriously, he's recycled enough moves to be above the Luigified status, which is what makes him a Marth clone, but not as directly as Lucina.
I fear you underestimate the bitchiness of the fanbase, sir.
That's...not true at all. Lucas and Wolf are different enough from their counterparts, but Roy is still almost identical. There's no way he is on the same level as semi-clone as Lucas and Wolf.Roy is a Semi-clone like Lucas/Ness, Wolf/Fox, but not considered a full clone... you know how it is
OkThat's...not true at all. Lucas and Wolf are different enough from their counterparts, but Roy is still almost identical. There's no way he is on the same level as semi-clone as Lucas and Wolf.
I have no problem with Roy or having so many FE characters. But you can't say that he isn't a very slightly glorified clone of Marth.
Yet Corrin gets revealed and it's the end of the world.
I just want to be clear (And I know you didn't use names) that I don't really care that there's six of them. I do care that there's three clones, but I'm not complaining. Just sharing my thoughts regarding the matter because I saw folks talking about it.We're really whining over the 6 FE characters again? It's times like this where I wish we would go back to ****posts and infractions.
They're in the game. There is no real reason to whine over their inclusion despite the fact that your favorite character didn't get in. None of this leads anywhere. I could go off tangent on why the Pokemon series needs to include other types of Pokemon in the roster but that won't change a damn thing.
I hate to be that guy but can you just move on? Moaning over it won't get anywhere.