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Judging by what went down on the last two days, I'm going to bet at least one of the scums is within the green slots. Reason why I say this is that, from my guess, Gorf would buddy at least one mafia member while distancing from another.
Going with this ****ty logic, why wouldn't you think orboknown was scum since he's in the red along with you. If gorf was going to distance one partner and buddy another orboknown would be guaranteed scum while the odds of lego becing scum would be a 1/4-5.
So why aren't you voting orbo instead of lego?
anyways, peace rockin you don't deserve to stay alive regardless of this recruiter bull****.
Going with this ****ty logic, why wouldn't you think orboknown was scum since he's in the red along with you. If gorf was going to distance one partner and buddy another orboknown would be guaranteed scum while the odds of lego becing scum would be a 1/4-5.
So why aren't you voting orbo instead of lego?
anyways, peace rockin you don't deserve to stay alive regardless of this recruiter bull****.
Because Orbo said he actually DID recieved the vile, but nothing happened, so I'm more obligated to believe that he's town as well. Not to mention Gorf was trying to lynch Orbo, who, again, is one of the easiest people to lynch in this game.
I'm willing to take that those odds cause there isn't nothing townie I'm seeing from Legolas, especially being that he used the same crappy arguement Gorf used on me.
So despite Gorf going after me for a ****ty reason, you're still going to lynch me?
on D1, I didn't find anything scummy with Orbo, but was okay with him being lynched due to how, again, he was being unhelpful. The way the wagon was formed on Orbo has left me not wanting to jump on it.
on D1, I didn't find anything scummy with Orbo, but was okay with him being lynched due to how, again, he was being unhelpful. The way the wagon was formed on Orbo has left me not wanting to jump on it.
on D1, I didn't find anything scummy with Orbo, but was okay with him being lynched due to how, again, he was being unhelpful. The way the wagon was formed on Orbo has left me not wanting to jump on it.
I feel that Gorf was distancing from his scummates, and I eel that Legolas is one of them.
Not sure what type of profit would there be to bussing in general. In sonic Mafia, Gorf (my scummate) wanted me to bus HIM (but I refused). In Celeb Mafia, Vandy suggested I bus him in that game, but refused to cause I felt it was unneeded (not to mention I hate bussing in general).
Rockin what you're getting at is total WIFOM. You can't just say "scum would do this because scum would probably so that," which you're basically doing to me right now. You’re reaching for a reason, to dislike me, get off it.
I have some notes, and they're shorter main, and incomplete compared to my last notes, but here there arely. I'm looking for connections to Gorf with these notes, but also just anything else that catches my eye.
Key:
Positive integers make someone more LIKELY to be scum with Gorf. Negative integers are people who are less likely scum with Gorf.
Gorf’s reply to Gheb’s 58-59 seems a little too natural for them to be scum together -.25 for Gheb.
KevinM’s 89 and 90 are fluffy upon reflection. Don’t actually help get town moving. He‘s just more likely to be scum in retrospect because of this. +.25.
Gorf calling LAK protown pretty early in his 102. I might be wrong about this, but I think that Gorf this game has a tendency to actually try to recognize other pro-town players as pro-town. He did it with Nabe’s slot, and he did it with me. He’s also doing it with LAK despite the fact that he doesn’t really have that much information to go off of. It is possible that he might of thrown a scummate in their as WIFOM, but occum’s razor tells me that he probably didn’t do it with LAK. -.5 for LAK.
Up until this point Gheb has only been paying attention to LAK/people who question him, so I can’t get anything out of him yet.
Rockin’s post also didn’t really take anything about Gorf into account, so null on that (besides from the fact that it was scummy in itself).
Orboknown’s post, in retrospect, seem a lot more careful and scummy than I remember them. He’s never fully explaining himself, despite the fact that people have called him out on it several times. He’s constantly making excuses as to why he cannot play the game currently, and why his posts are weak. I could quote some stuff if people wanted me to. In anycase, these “excuses” are so consistent with him that I’m having a hard time buying it. He’s giving himself a backdoor 100% of the time and I don’t like it. +.5
134, dat careful retraction.
Gheb voting Orb. Won’t put that passed the range of a bus. Especially considering how little he actually pursued Orb.
Gorf defending Rockin in his 143. Again don’t expect scum gorf to do that to a teamate. -.25 for Rockin.
Gorf’s 143 ALSO DOESN’T vote Orb even though there was literally no reason for him not to do so. +.5 for Orb.
Rockin’s “lecture” towards Orboknown in his 147 seems like a weird way for scummates to interact in thread. This doesn’t make any of these two less scummy, just less likely to be scum together. Don’t think Rockin/Orb are the last two mafia based off of just this.
Agree with Soup’s 149 about Rockin’s 148. +.25 for Rockin.
Gorf again defending Rockin in his 150, making Rockin scum a little less likely. The jump on him I take as null. Could easily be a bus or a jump on a townie. -.25 for Rockin.
Like Gheb’s 180. Going out of his way to try to convince me otherwise of the Orb read/his scum read. -.25.
182 looking better upon reflection with Soup probably being town in mind. -.25 for Gheb.
183 is still lame easy lynches but eh.
Orboknown pseudo defending Gorf in his 191. Eh. -.25 for Orb.
Orb’s sudden jump onto Rockin, and Rockin’s defense of Orb (203 and 255), is more reason to believe that these two aren’t connected.
Already kind of thought this, but Gheb and a Rockin connection doesn’t work too well either. 216 supports this.
Okay so Rockin and Orb probably not connected, but in retrospect I don’t like Rockin individually because of how he could defend Orb for just a bad wagon hop. Doesn’t make sense for a townie to do. +.25 for Rockin.
I’m use to J hard bussing his partners, but his 287 (giving Gorf a fair chance to respond) plus his way of attacking several other players tells me that J most likely was genuinely scum hunting Gorf. -.5 for J.
295 helps me to confirm that J, LAK, AM, and Soup are not scum, going off of the vibe that Gorf defended actual townies. If there is a scum in these town reads, then it’s AM, maybe LAK. Gorf could of easily placed anyone he wanted in his null list, so connections wise I’m not taking anything out of it. One of KevinM/Gheb are most likely a partner out of the null reads. Feeling KevinM simply bassed on a lack of interactions between them. Also not taking anything out of his scum reads but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was bussing a partner in there.
KevinM’s 332 is unconvincing either way.
KevinM’s 390-394 is pretty interesting and I’ll like someone to help me decipher it. He has two good scum reads and two bad town IMO. Seems weird that if he were scum with Gorf not to include him in his read list even after pressure was on Gorf. Seems a little sloppy for KevinM scum. -.25 for KevinM.
So far what I've figured out a couple things:
Rockin and Orb are probably not linked to each other. The way they interacted with each other just seems way too odd for scummates to do. One of these two could still definitely be scum, but if one is then the other probably isn't.
I still don't think that Rockin is linked to Gheb, again because of Gheb's preemptive defenses of Rockin that would also be odd to do as scum. Gheb defending Rockin the way he did felt like it was either scum defending a townie, or a townie simply giving out a genuine read. NOT like a scummie defending a scummie.
KevinM is an interesting case. In retrospect I REALLY don't like him without really trying to connect him with anyone. Recently he stated that he pretty much agrees with Marshy's reads, but his voting history and scumpicks Day 1 don't really line up with this.
Connection wise it's a little bit more tricky. During his catchup (posts 390-394) he failed to mention Gorf which has kinda got me WIFOMing myself. I kinda don't like KevinM scum not mentioning Gorf scum when he was a hot topic, but eh, idk. I would like anyone who's interested to take a look at KevinM's catch up and tell me what they make of it.
I'm reevulating my stance on Orb even more. The more and more I think about, the more I dislike his consistent lack of explaining things (despite being called out on it several times), and the consistent excuses he had not to post more content. Plus, Gheb pointed out this interesting thing about Orb and Gorf potentially be connected due to Gorf's immediate lack of commitment by not voting Orb. I actually think this argument is kind of a reach, but it's interesting to test out, and I have a fun little hypothesis in my head that Gheb could be related TO both Orb and Gorf because of this (being able to point out a connection too fast without enough information is suspect).
The whole "convert" thing throws a massive amount of WIFOM onto this situation, however, without it, I would of guessed that
one of Gheb/KevinM is scum.
One of Rockin/Orb is scum. If Rockin is scum then by poe it would most likely be with KevinM. Orb could be scum with either of them.
Rockin, isolated, is just so incredibly scummy that I can not ignore him toDay.
vote: Rockin
I think I've made myself clear about Rockin, but I'll be happy to explain myself again to those who need it <3
@Gheb: Could you go into your whole Orb/Gorf connection thing that you had earlier in more detail please?
Orbo is NOT scum at ALL. I do not believe he is scum AT THIS POINT.
On D1, I found him null. On D2, I found him null UNTIL he confirmed he reads with Gorf. You should go back to where Gorf claimed and then read from there, and then you'll know what I'm talking about. When Orbo came back, he explained that 'the vile was accepted, but nothing happened.' Gorf said on D2 that he sent the vile over to Orbo, but he DENIED it.
Seeing gorf flipped scum, I believe to Orbo being scum.
Gorf was going at it with Orbo and myself (more on me then him) since D1. In the red, he wanted those lynched (and in the red, it was me and Orbo). This coupled with the events on D2 makes me believe Orbo is town.
Partially claiming, I'm Ilchymis, Blue Rogue Chemist. In addition to having a night action which I'm not outing, I have a one-shot day ability that allows me to double vote.
