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Showcase of Power v3.6: The Ganondorf Video Thread

Gingerham

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Got a few vids I'd super appreciate some critique on. One is just a long thing of a bunch of I guess you can call them seriouslies.
The actual set I had with the same guy was just so bad I don't even wanna bother posting it lmao.

vs my Lucario friend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xZ6bwoaMAk
This guy likes to mm me from time to time, tried to swag too much game 3 and it cost me (I still have some trouble with Bowser so any info with that would be awesome) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF46UYhe_Go
And like half an hour of serious friendlies lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eStv2s_iG9c
 

CheCray

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I didn't watch the friendlies session but here's what I got from the other two videos. Your movement is good and you always got a ton of percent off of your grabs. You managed to overwhelm your opponents a good bit, and they couldn't seem to get past your fair walls which is great. When the Lucario started to back off and not approach as much I noticed you going for randy wiz kicks and flame chokes which you got punished for here and there. Everyone does it and I'm sure you know it's bad but just pointing it out.

When you did approach you spaced aerials correctly or naired your way in so you could stay safe. I did notice you didn't mix flame chokes or floats into your approaches and mostly left it to your aerials. These guys didn't figure it out but ganon's aerials are easy to work around when they are used to approach. That's where you can use float to stall and bait things out or flame choke to punish shielding. You just seemed a bit linear but what you were doing was working so why stop.


Last thing here is grabs, you dropped a couple finishers to your chain grab trying to fair, I'd recommend bair, its generally guaranteed on everyone at damn near any percent lower than 150% on just about everyone. Also your command grab followups could of been better, because you used grounded side b for the most part you could only tech chase but you only covered one option at a time with dair. On anyone with a decent tech roll dair can only cover tech in place because ganon is slow. Try and cover two options at a time, down b can sometimes cover 2 options but I think wavedash out of flame choke into another flame choke covers tech in place and tech away and leads to more shenanigans. Especially if you use aerial flame choke.

Good **** on absolutely wrecking these guys though, your Ganon played great you demolished these guys.
 
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Gingerham

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This is the first time I've gotten to watch myself in almost a year and it's really an eye opener. I noticed a bunch of bad habits that I probably would have never realized otherwise. Thanks for the info, managed to give some good critique while being really friendly about it.

Edit: I guess I'll just post that other set, I need some advice for Falcon anyways. Ignore second match my Marth is just lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_a-aTOGxtE
 
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CheCray

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You played that game pretty well against that Falcon. You weren't losing in nuetral a whole lot or getting caught in shield and grabbed. Falcon zero deaths just as hard as we do if not harder so it's a race to the first grab. You were doing the up throw chaingrab but you didn't transition to the down throw after that didn't work. After the Dthrow stops working you can up throw for a free aerial, which may or may not kill depending on DI.

Whenever you up throw jump up with him for a free follow up. I think the grab follow ups were the difference between you winning and losing here. If you got those aerials after up throw you would've gotten an edge guard which is easy vs Falcon. Falcons a hard matchup but I don't think you shoulda lost that one, next time tho.

On that note I still get ****ed by double's Lucario. I still haven't taken a set off him but I know I can do it here before long. Anyone care to take a look at my set?

Edit: I can't spell. That's what I get for theorycrafting while I work.
 
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Bazkip

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Didn't have a **** mindset for once at the past weekly and so I actually did decently

Baz vs What! (Captain Falcon) - https://youtu.be/IKy4ldrsTGA
**** Falcon

Baz vs shairn (Bowser) - https://youtu.be/g3JPK4wm2MQ
Seemed to have played the beginning of each match like ass but played it properly in the latter half. Got edgeguards when I used to miss them a lot against this guy in the past. Still kept on dropping chaingrabs though lol

Baz vs steakhouse (Bowser, Toon Link) - https://youtu.be/evV-MsDWq6o
rip game 5
At least I gave him a run for his money
 

DMG

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Dekus pretty solid, watched him some at Farmer's Fight a bit back. Looked a bit weak on Dthrow punish followups in the Sethlon set but he's overall slick
 
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CORY

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more ganon stuff that popped up on my youtube feed.

from paragon, so might've been posted before, but idc.

 

Bazkip

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Frozen Phoenix

Junebug
vs Dirtboy (Squirtle) - https://youtu.be/mFJTIw2TnKE [Game 3 @ 9:08, Game 5-7 @ 16:10]
vs Little Motel (Kirby) - https://youtu.be/6YyFgVuHuSw
vs Snivy (Fox) - https://youtu.be/yBjdl1K1LO8
vs KiwiMilkshake (Roy) - https://youtu.be/8Jzj-TAc22o

Kage
vs Rongunshu (Lucario) - https://youtu.be/SLbI5Fc0twY [Game 2-3 @ 2:50]

Baz
vs JJK (Falcon) - https://youtu.be/-IM5KxWZiE0
**** Falcon

The Clencher
vs MorKs (Wario) - https://youtu.be/22ZVXqK3eBs

Friendlies
Junebug, Lain, Baz & Delta [3.5] (Mostly doubles) - https://youtu.be/zLoA_DJonGQ
Breakdown
0:00 - Me vs Lain's Fox
1:50 - Start doubles
13:10 - Wtf happened? Watching it in slowmo I grabbed him as he shines (it doesn't hit me though so idk if that's even relevant?), and then we switch positions somehow, and it then it just instantly finishes the throw (skips the electricity). And then I teleport. Weird ****
13:50 - June and I start playing double Ganon
36:10 June's Ganon vs Lain's Marth for two games
44:46 I play a friendly against June's Diddy. It doesn't end well
46:53 June's Ganon vs Delta's Lucas

Montreal Weekly

Baz
vs Prower (Sheilda) - https://youtu.be/-EY9iRDBUXc
vs KB (Falcon) - https://youtu.be/4rr34uWLpGU
**** this goddamn ****ing character holy ****
 
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CORY

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It doesn't do dumb stuff like count "ganon vs Mk" as also "Mk vs ganon"?

Edit: I'm stupid. Disregard.
 
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