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Shiny's Mario Mafia - Game Over! Town + FireEmbleminer Victory!

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this covers what happened yesterday and up until the beginning of today. if you're caught up then you can read just what's below

after that?

FireEmblemnier claimed to be Barney's rival; Barney was King Boo, a third party cultist who had someone specifically looking to get him out of the game. Fire claimed Cappy and said he was a redirector (makes sense), third party, and that now that he fulfilled his win, he wanted to help the town. A lot of us aren't keen on this because he also said he has to redirect someone each night or die.

Multiple people had failed roles; Nabe, DJ, and Spak. However, only DJ and Spak got told they were roleblocked; Nabe just got told his role failed.

There was a little talk about why the mafia could have targeted Ura.

Stoopid revealed that his role was a Mario Party dice; he gives it to someone, picks a number from one to five and the result is altered based on the number chosen.

soup said he doesn't have his heart in this game as much as he wants so he revealed his role; Bowser and Paranoid Gun Owner, meaning that whoever targets him on nights he goes in his shell instantly dies.

Swamp popped in and said Coricus was a little shady. I agreed and pointed out she ghosted me last night when I offered to help her and she's been posting in other places but not this thread. That's why Cori is the prime lynch target as of now.
I see, thank you.
I don't think I trust FireEmblemnier. My gut is telling me that he could very well be a scum.
Also, since I don't have my heart in this game as much as I want either, I'm going to reveal my role.
I'm Yoshi, and I can mount someone on my back. Whoever gets on my back gets a boost that doubles their vote and is granted a second night action.
 

#HBC | Kary

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FE role seems stupid, but so did Bardull’s and his ability to convert mafia players. We know something like FE’s role exists due to bardulls claim, I’m willing to believe that FE is telling the truth as there are no counter claims.

I’m actually really suspicious of the people trying to lynch FE after he claimed to be NK immune.
More suspicious of people wanting FE dead, than say, the people wanting soup to be modkilled?

I can see the logic of mafia being worried about a slot that they can't night kill. But I think there are pretty reasonable grounds as a townie to want FE dead also- like the fact that he's definitely not town.
 

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Ok here's the TLDR for me today.

IF Maven is town, which seems like a reasonable assumption to me, given how much hate he got yesterday for no particular reason
THEN from the mafia perspective, Bardull vs Maven is a gift, they will take either (they probably expect Bardull is town).
BUT if you lynch Maven first and he flips town, that gives you more ammunition to go after Bardull with.
if you lynch Bardull and he flips town, well, maybe Maven is scum, but just as easily myself or Dark Horse, etc.

SO I'm most interested in looking at people today who voted for Maven Day 1, particularly those whose reasons I can't really get behind.
Which is why I started the day voting ADJ and have been giving Spak trouble and also don't like FireEmberefjeb
 

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I think it makes it a heck of a lot easier to fakeclaim by saying you're RB'd and just no action while under the spotlight (if he fakeclaimed), or he could still be telling the truth and be a mafia tracker.
What made you decide to reveal you were blocked at the start of Day 2?

I've got a pretty good gut feeling that FE is genuinely pro-town and Natz is town,
I'm not sure I'm reading this correctly because it's kind of unclear. You have a gut town read on Natz? If yes, roughly since when have you had this read.

Thanks :)
 

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What made you decide to reveal you were blocked at the start of Day 2?
I decided to reveal I was blocked at the start of D2 because I was using my other power (a redirect to myself) to prove I was town to someone. What I forgot is that the person claimed RB to me in a PM, so everything checks out lol.

I'm not sure I'm reading this correctly because it's kind of unclear. You have a gut town read on Natz? If yes, roughly since when have you had this read.
Yes, and since mid D1 (strengthened during nighttime communications N1). She seems genuinely interested in finding scum, hatched some interesting gambit plans N1 (which ended up being foiled by someone claiming ac action on her), and hasn't given me much of anything that has me concerned while still being active in thread. She doesn't have any reads publicly, but I also know where her head's at based on N1 conversations.

You're welcome :)

Also, I'm starting an 11 hour drive so I will only be back before deadline if I stop for dinner.
 

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I can see the logic of mafia being worried about a slot that they can't night kill. But I think there are pretty reasonable grounds as a townie to want FE dead also- like the fact that he's definitely not town.
Just to repeat myself, it's ONE THING that FireEmenbnajsd is claimed non-town.

It's ANOTHER thing that his role is sketch.
  • The 'neither suspicious nor clear' thing is weird to me, like why doesn't it just say 'unknown' for instance.
  • And how exactly is his role a foil to King Boo? Bardull's role interacted with dead players, and could bring them back to life. FE's role redirects people during the Night. So.... basically the only way they interact is if FE manages to redirect Bardull... it's not very special. Now if FE's role did something like.... HIDE CORPSES? then I could understand the interaction.
  • Plus the flavor doesn't make much sense to me. King Boo's nemesis is Cappy? Hmm not sure about that.
  • Plus his win condition is JUST Bardull dies? Seems like a piece of cake honestly.
 
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Yup, FE is definitely looking like a scum to me
Unvote: Maven
Vote: FireEmblem
 

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Thinking on it I'm not against being lynched today, cause my job is done, plus I can hang out in the spectator lobby. Though I am a bit worried that scum could take advantage of the free phase. So do as you will. If you don't find someone suspicious enough to lynch, you got the go ahead from me.
 

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Just to repeat myself, it's ONE THING that FireEmenbnajsd is claimed non-town.

It's ANOTHER thing that his role is sketch.
  • The 'neither suspicious nor clear' thing is weird to me, like why doesn't it just say 'unknown' for instance.
  • And how exactly is his role a foil to King Boo? Bardull's role interacted with dead players, and could bring them back to life. FE's role redirects people during the Night. So.... basically the only way they interact is if FE manages to redirect Bardull... it's not very special. Now if FE's role did something like.... HIDE CORPSES? then I could understand the interaction.
  • Plus the flavor doesn't make much sense to me. King Boo's nemesis is Cappy? Hmm not sure about that.
  • Plus his win condition is JUST Bardull dies? Seems like a piece of cake honestly.
It's not just Bardull dies, but rather his entire faction dies, if he got revive players, they would've been my target too
 

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honestly fire is a little sketch to me

i guess cappy vs king boo makes a little bit of sense because
Cappy looks like a ghost
but E Gadd is a much better choice and FE's redirecting is bound to get in the way of the town sooner or later, and I think he said that he has to redirect or else he dies.
 

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oh shoot no screenshots i forgot again lol host kill me PLEASE
 

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honestly fire is a little sketch to me

i guess cappy vs king boo makes a little bit of sense because
Cappy looks like a ghost
but E Gadd is a much better choice and FE's redirecting is bound to get in the way of the town sooner or later, and I think he said that he has to redirect or else he dies.
Yup that is true.
 

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I'll leave my reads on everyone here, I think I'll at least be of some use before I go.
TOWN (in no particular order)
Spak - Seemed legit in the night convo we had, seems to be actually thinking about the gamestate as well.
Natz - Like above, but also given the how she interacted D1, she stands out as one of the townie people given the way she reacts to stuff.

LEAN Town, but not as close as above
Swamp Provides decent feedback, felt he was trustworthy in the night convo
Nabe At first I wasn't so sure about Nabe, but D2 he's been showing a lot of work and thought.
Soup mostly due to the role claim and wanting a replacement
ADJ I don't have much of a reason to believe he's mafia besides when he cracked under pressure, and it didn't really come off as scummy to me.

QUESTIONABLE
Unikorn the only thing that leads me to believe she might be town is her role, but a lot of her interactions, contradict each other, that I'm not so sure.
Kary while I understand why she wants to get rid of me, I feel the type of mindset she has about it could be scummy, but just may be her overall stance on the situation no matter what.
Darkhorse Messenger Host abilities can be easily in either faction, and his thoughts on Soup could be a way to have town go after him and instead of himself, or possible scummates if he is mafia.

INACTIVE Suspicious
Coricus
Golden

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Vaanrose
Basically anyone else I didn't mention here.
 

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I dunno man, I want to like your slot, I just kinda hate your claim. Here's a bad idea.
What happens if you don't use your ability tonight? You'll die but you have already won, right?
I might actually do that, so you guys still get a lynch, If you guys want me to
 

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Well everyone: I’m back and will be available all day.

So... we currently are debating on American and Coricus, correct?
 

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I dunno man, I want to like your slot, I just kinda hate your claim. Here's a bad idea.
What happens if you don't use your ability tonight? You'll die but you have already won, right?
This is dumb, but better than wasting a lynch.

I'd be a lot more interested in a redirect on someone scummy toNight. If FE becomes a Town liability somehow through forced redirects, there's still N3 or N4, although I don't see it ever being in the way.
 

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They don't have a replacement for me

Would you rather a non-commital slot who won't pay attention to the day stick around or do I ask them to hostkill me

Day doesn't end if they do
 

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I get that, but still: I don’t think we should be voting on someone this much when they have been inactive for a while.
Sometimes, Mafia members are inactive when they don't want to incriminate themselves cause they don't have anything to go off of to manipulate the town. No lynches just allow mafia to have more time. Sure I can understand players not being around due to responsibilities, but that doesn't stop them from being mafia.
 

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Sometimes, Mafia members are inactive when they don't want to incriminate themselves cause they don't have anything to go off of to manipulate the town. No lynches just allow mafia to have more time. Sure I can understand players not being around due to responsibilities, but that doesn't stop them from being mafia.
Even then, there’s always the chance that they really are just inactive or lost in the conversation. I get that, really, but sometimes, that’s supposed to be the case.
 

#HBC | Nabe

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All that Coricus is going to do is claim, and then either get lynched toDay/toMorrow or eat a kill. We have time to make up other ground meanwhile.

What would the lynch be for you, Swamp Sensei Swamp Sensei , if not Coricus? What do you think about Kary ignoring what you think is a scumslip from Coricus? Do you still think it's a slip?

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