Shield Breaker's Tip

[Ilucamy]

If this has already been brought up before, I apologize.

Most of you know that the Shield Breaker has 3 hit boxes, the middle, the tip, and the exact tip. Some people refute the idea of the exact tip, but I found an easy way to prove it.

Go to training mode and fight Sonic (I just did it now and haven't tried with other characters) simply do a F-Throw and then fully charge shield breaker. You will see it does 24%.

A fully charged with the middle of the blade does 18%
The Tip does 22%
The Exact Tip does 24% Not to mention a lot more knock back.

So, the exact tip does exist.

 

[feardragon64]

Thank you so much for finding a way to auto-position it! Now we can even do tests about things like which launches further, a super tipped, fully charged shield breaker or a fully charged fsmash! We can also find out what % a super tipped shieldbreaker kills at! =D

Good find!

 

[VietGeek]

I always wondered why the exact point of his tip (where the blade shines upon impact) barely phases the opponent yet does uber knockback and damage. *inb4it'sjustagame*

Anyway, I haven't tried this method yet, but wouldn't the F-throw position characters differently due to the fall attributes of certain characters (floaty, fastfaller, whatever)? Good find otherwise though, since it allows for a more precise positioning both you and your foe for accurate testing.

I'm rather anxious to know the KO percentile of Shield Breaker to a Snake. >_>

 

[MysticKenji]

Sonic dies @ 42% from the center of FD from full charge exact-tip Shieldbreaker.

EDIT: Snake dies @ 51%

EDIT2: Nvm, I forgot Training Mode affects knockback

EDIT3: Sonic dies @ 35%. Snake dies @ 42%...and exact tip sometimes does 25%

 

[feardragon64]

LOL, mystic i love your 3 edits changing everything >>

But that's awesome to hear! (might I add I assume those are all fully charged =] )

I'm going to try and do this today: Go into brawl with sonic(cause you showed how it worked), do the technique described above to perfectly position it, fully charged shieldbreaker, pause JUST when it's hitting, screenie, transfer to sd card, upload to computer-->photobucket-->forums

In other words, I think it'd be great if we could get a screenshot so people know EXACTLY where it is. I'll try and get that done today =D

 

[xMiMix]

OK, so this is just marth standing there right after the grab. I put it up so people can see the distance.

And below are pictures at the moment of the hit, all with a couple of miliseconds in between each other. Of course each of the hits was done with different stocks.

Somehow I feel that 1 of the 3 was not a super tip.
See how the 1st one has sonic in a weird pose comparing to the other one? Weird.