I suck at these games and forming new ideas, but without fail, I gravitate towards your ideas even if I don't want to, usually, they've been somewhat beneficial, so I am more concerned that I am blindly following rather than legitimately believing Teran is worth lynching.
Buddying Tom and leaving an excuse at the end of your post for if Teran is lynched and flips town you can refer back to this.
Right because Day 1 is totally worthless and nothing happens/is worth nothing. There is A LOT you can do right now.
1. Call someone inactive out. If you are calling my activity in to question, why not push it? You are intentionally avoiding getting into the spotlight. That's called coasting.
2. Teran is a HUGE deal right now. If Teran flips Mafia, then that is a great Day 1. If he flips town, we have quite a few people to investigate. The real question is is anyone worth lynching over Teran? Is Teran innocent/valuable enough to save?
My current lynch order for now is Teran then Air. Teran because of what his flip can offer in terms of information. Air because he's literally done nothing.
know who else has done nothing? tom? xsyven? hilt? why single out air? heck, you're singling out the two easiest players to get lynched and you tunnelled them throughout day 1, and now we're at d2 and you are bringing up teran again. interesting
Why cast a net when I have two fish on my line? You are deflecting, Teran. Until I am satisfied with you and Air, I'll keep my sights set on you two.
what exactly would make you "satisfied"? teran has responded a good deal amount and you just cast it off as deflecting each time, i dont understand what he could have possibly said to make him not-pressurable in your eyes but i know you didn't have any intention of letting either out of sight.
I see Teran's reactions as indicative to his stance towards the town: selfish. I have reread a ton of Teran's post and none of them are about finding scum, they are about saving himself. While there could be a very good, pro-town reason for this, it just screams anti-town. Notice, as pressure mounts he attacks Kevin the most. Kevin was the strongest pusher of the Teran lynch, so if Teran gets lynched and flips town, then Kevin is suspicious, and yet, Teran seems more about lynching Kevin over himself, which, to me, is because Teran's flip won't be town, so he's trying to get Kevin to look more suspicious than he is.
I don't see what we get from an Air lynch. Teran gives us something should he flip town or mafia. What does Air yield?
suddenly you seem against the air lynch because he won't give out as much information.
before you said you were apprehensive about having your vote on teran because you dont want suspicion to fall on you when he flips town but you seem 100% fine with it now. you contradict yourself in this post. you say terans not finding scum he's just protecting himself. but a sentence later you say hes pressuring kevin for a bull**** reason (this is attempting to find scum), do you have to make it so obvious kevin is your scumbuddy? i was gonna save kevin for later but i suppose ill list all of kevins obv scum tells and his connections with you after this post.
also just WHAT? @ "While there could be a very good, pro-town reason for this, it just screams anti-town." leaving more room for you to fall back on when he flips town, you can just say "i must have missed the pro town reason for his play, but i did acknowledge he may have one." this post just wreaks of scum.
Interesting how you defend Air.
definition of grasping at straws and twisting terans words, he didn't say anything of the sort. he was 100% right when he said air was at least trying and kevin wasn't.
I'm not really enjoying the position I am in with the Air lynch. I feel like I am the only one who gave an actual shake to Air, and thusly, I'll be pinned with the responsibility when he's lynched and if he flips town.
"****, better get other people to actually provide solid reasoning on air so when he flips town people dont instantly look to me" this is when the scum just starts leaking out your ears.
This is a flat out lie because the exact quote was:
You don't hammer regardless (emphasis mine). You changed it in your explanation to Teran specifically.
@Xsyven: Where you at?
he CLEARLY meant not in the situation teran was in, obviously air will hammer if need be but he didn't feel a hammer would EVER be justified in the situation teran was in. obviously attempting to make air look worse with horrid logic.
Steel: really? You cleared Air on Metagaming reasons? If, and when, Air flips mafia, you are going to be my top suspect because that is the most bull**** reason to change your vote. Has it occurred to you that, since your reasoning is just as flimsy, he could be COACHED to act in a way similar to his previous town roles? Watch how easy that is:
i LOVE the "If, and
when, Air flips mafia", no way you could be 100% sure air was scum and im pretty sure you just said this to make your vote and play seem more genuine against airgemini. this post leads great into d2.
All right, Steel - as soon as air posted, I knew where my mistake was AND why you unvoted at the last possible minute. First, you post this big slash at Air, then you make up some flimsy excuse as to unvote for him, that NO ONE buys, then you attack Vyse. My most obvious question is: why didn't you try to convince us if you were so certain he was town? You let it happened. We need every town body we can have in a short game like this, so I'm going to hazard a guess and say you unvoted so he'd get hammered by other people without you on him.
WHAT MISTAKE? YOU NEVER EXPLAINED THIS AND ITS SO OBVIOUS WHY YOU DIDNT. you clearly DONT HAVE ONE and just wrote it to cast yourself in a better light. i love how you went from "when air flips mafia" to "i knew where my mistake was as soon as he posted." complete bull****.
A. Metagaming is a bull**** way to clear scum. Anyone knows that. Mafia is 100% random chance in assigning roles. If you could notice he was playing similar to how he did before, then the mafia could easily coach him. Kevin plays the same in basically every game, so realistically, you should lynch him Day 1, no matter what, because he plays the same as he does Mafia.
B. You didn't try to create any other reasonings for his being cleared as town. You just let it happened and voted on a random person.
im glad xsyven picked up on your crap posts at the start of d2, because "point" B is horrid. I CLEARLY DID TRY TO CONVINCE PEOPLE but you AND KEVIN just casted it off easier than saying teran was deflecting when you were pressuring him. and again to quote xsyven, how could i have possibly convinced you in that situation? i made my thoughts known and all i could do was hope other people would pick up on my read and follow. your posts REALLY lack any genuine feel to them.
Vote: steel
Should have done that first and foremost.
I don't buy your argument at all, and I'm going to watch you like a hawk.
That said, we need to investigate the people who were in on the lynch, the people who backed off, and the people who abstained from the lynch... yes, everyone. Tom is gaining my attention the most because he unvoted, then never voted again, also he's been gone for a while and he did that before as mafia (happy, Steel?). So, where you at, Tom?
didn't even respond to my post and just said you dont buy it. and how is tom gaining your attention because he unvoted the obvious town teran?
Crimson King's posts today are a little ridiculous.
I still think Steel's metagaming was ********, but there's no way he had any solid proof that Air was town at all. He couldn't have possibly persuaded anyone, (hence air's lynch) because it was a gut feeling. Pinning him for "not trying hard enough" is crazy talk, CK.
Vote: Crimson King
Shaq Mafia.
yep yep.
I'd take more offense/credence to that vote if you actually posted more than twice a day. Your entire game has been very little more active than Tom's who hasn't been on the boards, so I really have no real reason to pay attention to you if you aren't will to play the game on the level that most people are playing.
SCREAMING scum. you do NOT EVER just ignore someone in a game of mafia, specially for as bull**** of a reason as this. xsyvens vote is very legit and you just tried to make it look like he held no credit whatsoever because he wasnt that active. you wrote this so no one else would follow him, very similar to how you reacted to my vote this afternoon. hint to everyone else: vote for crimson king
Post as little as you want, but your posts that you have made have offered NOTHING. All you've been doing was piggy-backing on the group consensus (you joined the Air lynch with few posts, and you never really backed up your reasoning behind it).
In fact, I'm not posting anymore until January 25th. Hey, more than half the town is doing it already, might as well join the group.
i love how you admit xsyven was next to useless d1 yet you NEVER gave him ANY attention, probably because he isnt nearly as easy to lynch as teran or air.
followed by easy excuse to scum coast.
Don't worry, guys, Steel will exonerate me soon before a lynch on me appears, unvote, and let everyone else do the dirty work.
The game is really been inactive, and it's disturbing me greatly. Tom has to post today, so unvote.
What about the Teran bandwagon? We abandoned that without really clearing him. Is he good now?
try to brush off my vote as VI or scum voting for you similar to how you reacted to xsyvens vote so no one would follow. back to teran lol, your scumbuddy was the only other one to mention wagoning him again.
Then lynch me. If the only way for the town to see you as scum is for you to lynch another townie, than so be it. I'd rather die so the town can win, then survive and lose because of stupid logic and inactivity.
this post was the least genuine of them all.
i hope scumson kings scum is fairly obvious to teran/tom/hilt/vyse/xsyven. im pretty freaking sure its him and kevin.
