Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

[Terios the Hedgehog]

Pirates Curse is my favorite Shantae game so Risky definitely. She basically comes premade!

 

[meleebrawler]

Spider girls and slime girls are my favorite. Arachne from smite is one of my favrite spider girl designs, and Shnatae's transformation is up there, as is the enemy. But yeah you rarely got to use her spider form, and you get the spider attack most likely last of all of them

I'd like to elaborate on why the spider-girl is such an interesting enemy. She is the toughest normal enemy in the game, blocking almost everything you throw at her, takes a ton of damage to kill even when you do slip past her guard, is huge and can do loads of damage. However, she is slow and easily avoided by mobile transformations, like the monkey that can clear her with a jump (even as she attempts an anti-air). In fact, she isn't very aggressive at all. They barely acknowledge your presence until you get right up next to them, and very rarely use their projectile attack. Almost like they're fighting purely in self-defence, a stark contrast from almost every other monster in the game. And what do you get for persevering against this stalwart spider? Nothing. No valuable gems, items, heck not even a cool death animation. Fighting her is almost entirely pointless, almost as if the game is mocking you for going out of your way to kill an enemy that is super tough yet barely tries to inconvenience you. This makes them surprisingly sympathetic.

 

[Veodok]

They barely acknowledge your presence until you get right up next to them, and very rarely use their projectile attack. Almost like they're fighting purely in self-defence, a stark contrast from almost every other monster in the game.

You go harpy-form/cloud-9 and try to inch over them in the mansion with a ceiling blocking you. That swipe they do is evil; so much range.

And it's weird because I have a huge fear of spiders, and hate them irl. But spider-girls are one of my favorite monster girls.

 

[meleebrawler]

You go harpy-form/cloud-9 and try to inch over them in the mansion with a ceiling blocking you. That swipe they do is evil; so much range.

And it's weird because I have a huge fear of spiders, and hate them irl. But spider-girls are one of my favorite monster girls.

Eh? You'll have to excuse me, I've only played the original on Wii U and not any of the DLC. I don't remember there being any of them in the interior part of Hypno Baron's castle, only outside in the second half.

 

[Veodok]

Eh? You'll have to excuse me, I've only played the original on Wii U and not any of the DLC. I don't remember there being any of them in the interior part of Hypno Baron's castle, only outside in the second half.

Every stage changes to a second form with slightly different enemies after you clear it for the first time iirc (for the main game). They're there in the Jammies Mode by default, and you lose 1 of your 3 only hearts in JM if they hit you with it.

 

[DOTBHDD]

I can't get over how fun Shantae would be as a fighter.

 

[EarlTamm]

You know how we discussed the potential of Shantae and Pit interacting and how great/funny that would be? I just imagined what could happen if Pit and Rottytops met. That would be amazing.

 

[Captain Hazama]

Angel Brains. Mmmmmmmm... Tasty.

 

[meleebrawler]

Every stage changes to a second form with slightly different enemies after you clear it for the first time iirc (for the main game). They're there in the Jammies Mode by default, and you lose 1 of your 3 only hearts in JM if they hit you with it.

Mmm... my point still stands. They're mostly passive (as in they don't actively engage or pursue Shantae once in their sights) enemies that are better off evaded than fought. They're memorable whether they're wandering out in the open or guarding a passage.

On the topic of movesets, here's mine:

Jab: Hair whip that can be extended into a multijab
Ftilt: The Power Kick from Pirate's Curse
Dtilt: Crouching hair whip
Utilt: Hair swing in an arc above her
Fsmash: Turns into an elephant and hip-checks in front
Usmash: A lightning mine from Half-Genie Hero above Shantae's head, similar to Megaman's
Dsmash: A short stomp in elephant form creating quakes on both sides
Dash attack: The trademark elephant dash
Nair: Spins in the air as if dancing
Fair: Aerial hair whip
Bair: Backwards kick (or another hair whip)
Uair: A quicker, but weaker lightning mine that persists in the place used for a bit
Dair: The classic stall-then-fall elephant stomp
Nspecial: Fireball. Can be charged to three levels: uncharged is a basic straight shot, mid charge shoots a spread of three, and full charge unleashes a mid-range flamethrower.
Side special: Monkey Bullet. Launches forward and latches onto either a wall or a player as a grab, like Monkey Flip.
Up Special: Harpy Flight: Fly through the air for a limited time, similar to R.O.B's burners. Much faster but much more inertia.
Down Special: Bubble: A shield that can take a certain amount of damage (but does not stop hitstun). Has a notable cooldown after use.

It's fairly basic and straightforward for the most part, but then outside of Pirate's Curse Shantae's controls have never been very complex. I expect her to be an all-rounder.

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

Well, the Shantae re-rate is gonna be the last character re-rated post direct alongside Dixie(I see what they did there). I look forward to it, I recall Shantae being a character that was rated early on.

Would you say you're looking... way forward to it?

OOOOOOHHHHHH!

Spoiler

I'll stop.~

 

[zferolie]

I'd like to elaborate on why the spider-girl is such an interesting enemy. She is the toughest normal enemy in the game, blocking almost everything you throw at her, takes a ton of damage to kill even when you do slip past her guard, is huge and can do loads of damage. However, she is slow and easily avoided by mobile transformations, like the monkey that can clear her with a jump (even as she attempts an anti-air). In fact, she isn't very aggressive at all. They barely acknowledge your presence until you get right up next to them, and very rarely use their projectile attack. Almost like they're fighting purely in self-defence, a stark contrast from almost every other monster in the game. And what do you get for persevering against this stalwart spider? Nothing. No valuable gems, items, heck not even a cool death animation. Fighting her is almost entirely pointless, almost as if the game is mocking you for going out of your way to kill an enemy that is super tough yet barely tries to inconvenience you. This makes them surprisingly sympathetic.

Yeah after fighting them once I just jump over them when I can. Same for the Scorpion girl and that one eyed guy in rsiky's mode. just a pain to fight. But her design is great.

So I was driving home listen to some of the past proof of shantae in smash videos(couldn't watch at the shore due to poor internet), and I had an idea for her intro trailer.

We start with a shot of Princess Peach's castle at night as it zooms into one of the upper rooms. Inside we see all of the smash females so far, sitting around in Peach's bed room doing different things. Peach and Zelda sipping tea, Palutena and Lucina chatting it up, Daisy and Wii Fit Trainer jumping around doing arobics, and Zero suit samus standing in the corner looking a little annoyed as Bayonetta is smoozing up to her.. Then it zooms out to a window, with Bowser and Ganondorf looking in, and ready to jump in to crash the party. Suddenly, a shadow in the sky appears over the moon and swoops in, looking like a bird, then suddenly the 2 guys are whipped hard, sending them crashing into the room. The other girls look at the knocked in villains, and looks up at the figure standing over them, the light reveals that its SHANTAE: RET-2-GO!, as she then starts to dance as the villains get up, and the girls all jump them, cuting to gameplay. At the end of the gameplay it cuts back to the villains defeated, with shantae having a Pillow fight with Daisy and Samus, who looks more annoyed then happy like the other 2

I like this idea because it ties to Jammies mode tease of the ultimate slumber party and everyone is invited, and the reveal trailer being that slumber party, or another one, is too perfect.

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

-snip-

Cue feminist screeching. >_>

Nice idea.~

 

[EarlTamm]

Yeah after fighting them once I just jump over them when I can. Same for the Scorpion girl and that one eyed guy in rsiky's mode. just a pain to fight. But her design is great.

So I was driving home listen to some of the past proof of shantae in smash videos(couldn't watch at the shore due to poor internet), and I had an idea for her intro trailer.

We start with a shot of Princess Peach's castle at night as it zooms into one of the upper rooms. Inside we see all of the smash females so far, sitting around in Peach's bed room doing different things. Peach and Zelda sipping tea, Palutena and Lucina chatting it up, Daisy and Wii Fit Trainer jumping around doing arobics, and Zero suit samus standing in the corner looking a little annoyed as Bayonetta is smoozing up to her.. Then it zooms out to a window, with Bowser and Ganondorf looking in, and ready to jump in to crash the party. Suddenly, a shadow in the sky appears over the moon and swoops in, looking like a bird, then suddenly the 2 guys are whipped hard, sending them crashing into the room. The other girls look at the knocked in villains, and looks up at the figure standing over them, the light reveals that its SHANTAE: RET-2-GO!, as she then starts to dance as the villains get up, and the girls all jump them, cuting to gameplay. At the end of the gameplay it cuts back to the villains defeated, with shantae having a Pillow fight with Daisy and Samus, who looks more annoyed then happy like the other 2

I like this idea because it ties to Jammies mode tease of the ultimate slumber party and everyone is invited, and the reveal trailer being that slumber party, or another one, is too perfect.

I thought of something similar when it comes to continuing the Jammies Mode. Basically, it is the aftermath of the groups sleepover on Risky's Ship, and they wake to the sound of canon fire. They go to the deck and realize two things, someone forget to let the anchor down and they had drifted out to see, and a ship full of Kremlings led by K.Rool are attacking them. From there they all leap into action and the gameplay goes from there.

Edit: Anyway, I have a question for all of you. What other characters are you interested in and where is Shantae in relation to them? It's always neat to see peoples personal picks, and how they sometimes overlap with others on the thread.

 

[Yellowlord]

Ok, I have added 5 more supporters to the list:

Spoiler

spoilerowl
Blackwolf666
GoldLiger
D DOTBHDD
Calane

 

[grizby2]

I might as well pass along the info about the latest Column by Sakurai here. There wasn't much new to it, but he does say at the end that he referred to the smash ballot for adding characters (like K.Rool who got a ton of votes). And I'm pretty sure that bodes well for Shantae too, since she's popular. Even though I still think that it's not all about popularity, since it's nintendo. But it looks good.
Here's the link:

https://sourcegaming.info/2018/08/2...smash-direct-sakurais-famitsu-column-vol-561/

I read everything in that link and its really cool to sorta see what sakurai's thinking!

I especially like what he said near the end.
"In order to make him more K. Rool-esque, we had to make sure he stood up perfectly straight. Of course, we couldn’t make him too tall, however, so please forgive us for shrinking him down a bit. Then again, it isn’t like anything else in Smash is to scale anyway."

that bit made me laugh

 

[CloudedSun]

I thought of something similar when it comes to continuing the Jammies Mode. Basically, it is the aftermath of the groups sleepover on Risky's Ship, and they wake to the sound of canon fire. They go to the deck and realize two things, someone forget to let the anchor down and they had drifted out to see, and a ship full of Kremlings led by K.Rool are attacking them. From there they all leap into action and the gameplay goes from there.

Edit: Anyway, I have a question for all of you. What other characters are you interested in and where is Shantae in relation to them? It's always neat to see peoples personal picks, and how they sometimes overlap with others on the thread.

I voted for Sora and Shantae in the ballot. They are my top two, and I would be extremely happy if either got in. Also it never struck me til a couple days ago, but Roxas is pretty much the only echo I'd be super hype for, since he's one of my favorite video game characters of all time. A Zack Echo for Cloud is also very welcome.

It's an odd one, and his story isn't out yet, but I'm rather fond of Addam from Xenoblade 2. For some reason, his cockiness strikes me. Rex and Pyra/Mythra are also welcome too.

Next up is Neku. Fell in love with The World Ends With You Solo Remix in anticipation for KH3D. Also use him as a custom skin in Smash Wii U for Shulk. A long shot pick, but I'd love to see him in.

Another WAYYYYY off court pick for me is Joker from Persona 5. Joker is just so cool and badass, love his character design, Xander Möbius' voice in Smash and Persona are amazing, and he's just one of my favorite characters of all time. I do realize his release timing greatly hampered his chances, but if Persona 5 released right before the ballot, I'd have a lot more confidence.

 

[EarlTamm]

When it comes to the character I support, there is only two spots I can really say are concrete for me, and that is Geno as my number 1 choice, while Shantae is second. All my other wants are kinda jumbled together and I really can't place them in any one rank, but among them are Dark Meta Knight, the Black Knight, Travis Touchdown, Issac(I think he is the closest to being a concrete number 3), Skull Kid, Gardevoir(With Gothitelle), Adeleine, and Ashley(One day...).

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

Edit: Anyway, I have a question for all of you. What other characters are you interested in and where is Shantae in relation to them? It's always neat to see peoples personal picks, and how they sometimes overlap with others on the thread.

When it comes to the character I support, there is only two spots I can really say are concrete for me, and that is Geno as my number 1 choice, while Shantae is second. All my other wants are kinda jumbled together and I really can't place them in any one rank, but among them are Dark Meta Knight, the Black Knight, Travis Touchdown, Issac(I think he is the closest to being a concrete number 3), Skull Kid, Gardevoir(With Gothitelle), Adeleine, and Ashley(One day...).

Funnily enough, it's the opposite for me. Shantae is my #1 with Geno as my #2. Only reason I'm repping Geno in my avatar is because none of my Shantae avatars are super big and I hate how distorted they get when I try to stretch them out. Plus... well, I've been waiting on Geno for over 12 years now so it's not like it isn't appropriate.~

In no particular order, the other characters I support are: Ashley, Elma, Skull Kid, Dixie Kong and Rex/Pyra. I also think KOS-MOS and Tiki (from Fire Emblem) would be neat but I'm not clamoring for them.

 

[Staarih]

When it comes to the character I support, there is only two spots I can really say are concrete for me, and that is Geno as my number 1 choice, while Shantae is second. All my other wants are kinda jumbled together and I really can't place them in any one rank, but among them are Dark Meta Knight, the Black Knight, Travis Touchdown, Issac(I think he is the closest to being a concrete number 3), Skull Kid, Gardevoir(With Gothitelle), Adeleine, and Ashley(One day...).

Funnily enough, it's the opposite for me. Shantae is my #1 with Geno as my #2. Only reason I'm repping Geno in my avatar is because none of my Shantae avatars are super big and I hate how distorted they get when I try to stretch them out. Plus... well, I've been waiting on Geno for over 12 years now so it's not like it isn't appropriate.~

In no particular order, the other characters I support are: Ashley, Elma, Skull Kid, Dixie Kong and Rex/Pyra. I also think KOS-MOS and Tiki (from Fire Emblem) would be neat but I'm not clamoring for them.

Yay for other Shantae + Geno supporters! I'm really into Shantae at the moment so I'm ranking her as my #1 wanted, with Geno right behind. And Isaac is right in there too. If those three make it in Ultimate, there's really not much more I can wish for.
...well except for some ARMS content as I love the game and its characters, but that's likely DLC if anything.

Paper Mario was once my most wanted (hence the avatar, too lazy to change it haha!), but he's dropped from the top of my list - would still appreciate him making it of course. I'm also rooting for the likes of Elma, Dixie and anything Rhythm Heaven among others, but not too invested in them. Not that I'm ever really invested in Smash support, I'm here just for the fun of speculation, but in the end it's just a video game.

 

[Baws]

Haven't been on this site since the Robin support thread who was my personal "super-unlikely" wish back then, so I am back to show my support for Shantae! Maybe I can get really lucky and be two for two.

And what do you know, my pfp back then was even Shantae--I am ready!

 

[EarlTamm]

i just had a thought, isn't it gonna be awkward for Shantae to see Nikki? After all...

 

[Wademan94]

Another cinematic trailer idea I had for Shantae would involve Wario exploring a cave/ruins and finding a magic lamp and while he dances around in glee, a giant silhouette appears behind him. He starts rubbing the lamp before noticing the shadow and turning to face it which ends up dashing into him and knocking him away, revealing itself to be her elephant form. Her elephant foot comes down and flattens the lamp before transforming into her human form and Wario goes in to fight her.

I thought of something similar when it comes to continuing the Jammies Mode. Basically, it is the aftermath of the groups sleepover on Risky's Ship, and they wake to the sound of canon fire. They go to the deck and realize two things, someone forget to let the anchor down and they had drifted out to see, and a ship full of Kremlings led by K.Rool are attacking them. From there they all leap into action and the gameplay goes from there.

Edit: Anyway, I have a question for all of you. What other characters are you interested in and where is Shantae in relation to them? It's always neat to see peoples personal picks, and how they sometimes overlap with others on the thread.

For me Shantae is definitely near the top of characters I’d like to see in Ultimate. As for other characters not counting Echo Fighters, in no particular order I’d say Marx, Rex/Pyra, and Rayman (potentially Edelgard from FE: Three Houses as well though she’d likely be a DLC character)

 

[Door Key Pig]

https://youtu.be/k-pet-tWOQE
If Shantae gets in, she'll be the one non-Smash character of this series that actually became a fighter!

 

[MajestyIndigo]

Anyway, I have a question for all of you. What other characters are you interested in and where is Shantae in relation to them? It's always neat to see peoples personal picks, and how they sometimes overlap with others on the thread.

Mine are all in my signature, I didn't add Kitana (Mortal Kombat), Inigo (Fire Emblem) and Misty ( Pokemon) because they have like 0,000% chances

 

[GoldLiger]

If I wanted a Shantae echo fighter....which is impossible since all of Shantae's friends are unique in action(unless you give Shantae all the moves from the pirate gear so that Risky Boots can be her Echo) and abilities.

 

[DeltaSceptile]

Edit: Anyway, I have a question for all of you. What other characters are you interested in and where is Shantae in relation to them? It's always neat to see peoples personal picks, and how they sometimes overlap with others on the thread.

Well, you can obviously tell from my name that I want Sceptile, but Shantae and Crash Bandicoot have always been ones I thought would be cool to get in. It’d also be fun to get Kat&Ana, because we don’t have enough duo characters or a true ninja character. I’ve always wanted a playable Umbreon/Espeon as well, just thought it’d be cool.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I thought of something similar when it comes to continuing the Jammies Mode. Basically, it is the aftermath of the groups sleepover on Risky's Ship, and they wake to the sound of canon fire. They go to the deck and realize two things, someone forget to let the anchor down and they had drifted out to see, and a ship full of Kremlings led by K.Rool are attacking them. From there they all leap into action and the gameplay goes from there.

Edit: Anyway, I have a question for all of you. What other characters are you interested in and where is Shantae in relation to them? It's always neat to see peoples personal picks, and how they sometimes overlap with others on the thread.

Shantae's at Number One as you can see in my sig, my safe picks are generally in the top row.

i just had a thought, isn't it gonna be awkward for Shantae to see Nikki? After all...

Ah, confused her with the slime enemy. Anyway, Ikki and Nikki are two different people, really.

 

[Staarih]

So, there's a Nindies Showcase next week.

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[WingedSupernova]

I was wrong about the whole no more indie showcases thing. https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1032613428907495425?s=19
Edit: 'd again

 

[Deleted member]

So, there's a Nindies Showcase next week.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

I was wrong about the whole no more indie showcases thing. https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1032613428907495425?s=19
Edit: 'd again

Again?

 

[WingedSupernova]

Again?

I always seem to be a couple seconds late lol

 

[GoldLiger]

Nindies Showcase coming on August 28th.

https://twitter.com/SMetaldave64/status/1032615144939868160

Edit: I got as well lol

 

[Deleted member]

But why?

We just had one.

Nintendo what are you doing

 

[zferolie]

Hmmm, suspicous... I mean it may not get anything again, but being revealed at the end of a Nindie showcase would be very fitting...

 

[Staarih]

But why?

We just had one.

Nintendo what are you doing

The one we had was never officially announced beforehand and was essentially a shadow drop of indie news for Europe (it’s on the UK channel). I reckon this one is more for the US, and will likely repeat some information. Hopefully we’ll get new news as well.

 

[Shinuto]

But why?

We just had one.

Nintendo what are you doing

did that one really count though, it was just some small mini direct by Nintendo of UK.

 

[VizardJeffhog]

Well well well well wellwellwellwellwellwellwell! Another presentation this soon?

Hopefully they won't be repeating too much information from this week's earlier showcase and keep overlap to a minimum. I know there's some more Nindies on the horizon to be discussed that the European show hasn't covered.

And, again, while a Shantae reveal would overshadow the whole point of next week's show... a man can dream.

 

[MoveMan1]

Will it air in japan? That's the big question. If it doesn't, we can forget a Smash reveal, because there's no way Nintendo would make an reveal western-exclusive.

 

[Captain Hazama]

I don't believe it will be a reveal. But I'm honestly surprise to hear more on Nintendos end.

 

[AngrySun88]

A North American focused indie Direct would be the perfect time to show off Shantae in Smash, or at least give us some sort of hint.

I'm not getting my hopes up for a Shantae reveal then, however, as I feel character reveals are saved for Nintendo or Smash focused directs.