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Just a quick question. There's been some talk about Sonic possibly being in SSBB, but has there been any talk about his counterpart Shadow being in the game maybe as like a secret character or something?
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Most intelligent people realised this awhile back, it's just the more ignorant ones, not pointing anyone in particular out by the way, you know who you are, that cause all of the fuss over extra characters.DokturSea said:I don't think you people know what all is involved in a third party character. There are lots of papers, meetings, and payments that have to go into getting a SINGLE character into Brawl. I'm 99.9% sure that if Sonic makes it in, he will be the ONLY character from his series. No Tails, no Knuckles, and NO SHADOW.
Where do these people keep coming from?DarkKnight077 said:Shadow is not Sonic. Sonic has mini jetpaks on his shoes, Sonic..just runs. Also if you ever played as Shadow he skates..not runs skates. Also Shadow can use the chaos emerlads..Sonic can't. Unless Sonic goes to Super Sonic. So..you see Shadow is stronger than Sonic.
1) I'm not an F-Zero fan, and if I had known that it would have ruined it.Stryks said:Blood falcon isnt capt flacon for criying out lo... oh wait... THEY PUT BLOOD F. AS A COSTUMe! Shocking!! Dude shadow has a shot of being a costume so dont say it would ruin it.
Earth, although with some people it is questionable.Puffball64 said:Where do these people keep coming from?
I think that was a typo on his part. The name of Shadow's shoes are different, but that is nit picky details.Puffball64 said:-Exactly WHERE does Sonic have mini jetpacks on his shoes? Unless you are talking about his Light Speed Shoes, Shadow has those as well.
Sonic has used the Chaos Control twice ever, both times in SA2:B. After this point, Sonic has never used the Chaos Control, and for a good reason. He is inexpierienced with it. It's not his move. It's like two different swordsman. Sure, the second swordsman could try out the First sword style, but he'd suck at it, and would often get it wrong. Sonic is making a smart move by not using it becuas Chaos Control is a power ability that a lot can go wrong in with even the smallest mistake. It's Shadows, becuase he knows 100% how to you use it without flaws and mistakes.Puffball64 said:-Sonic has been known to use Chaos Control, so no, it's not just to become Super Sonic.
True, who is actually stronger can't be figured out, unless you have Shadow and Sonic Arm Wrestle .Puffball64 said:-You have little to no proof at all whatsoever that Shadow is indeed stronger than Sonic. It's like saying that I could prove Sonic was stronger, due to his being able to maintain his Super form during SA2, or saying that Shadow is stronger than Sonic, due to resisting the attacks of the aliens during the events of Shadow the Hedgehog.
Correct, but you don't have proof that Sonic is stronger either. Shadow doesn't deserve to get in over Sonic. That would be stupid. Sonic is the Trademark of Sega. Sonic must get in before ANY Sega character can. I tihnk it's more of an arguement who should come with Sonic, but as there wont be anymore than 3-4 3rd party characters, it doesn't even matter.Puffball64 said:Reiterating, you have no proof that Shadow > Sonic, nor do you have proof that Shadow deserves the spot Sonic would get in Brawl, which is the message you appear to be sending me. Please, feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
....... You win this round. XDshoklan said:It's ok Terios, you just need to get a bit creative lol.
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U hello have u been like playin melee for like... dont know... a day or so?shoklan said:1) I'm not an F-Zero fan, and if I had known that it would have ruined it.
2)Yes, it would. Shadow is not Sonic, nor are they're personalities anywhere near the others. by using Shadow as a "Costume," you are ruining the personality of Shadow. All of a Sudden you have a Black hedgehog that is suposed to represent both Sonic and Shadow, with one personality. It ruins Shadow's personailty and his Character.
Since the day it basically came out if you wanted to know.Stryks said:U hello have u been like playin melee for like... dont know... a day or so?
Peach =/= DaisyStryks said:Peach- Daisy costume
Mario- Wario and luigi costume
Capt. Falcon- Blood falcon
I am fully aware about Peach and Luigi thank you.Stryks said:and if u check Peach isnt like daisy, daisy is a tom-boy.
Mario aint like his brother, hes easily scared, mario is brave, and well mario aint nothin like wario.
Capt. ain like blood falcon, blood falcon is a insane dude.
yes, there is.Stryks said:And Sonic aint like shadow, thus NO PROBLEM FOR SONIC TO HAVE A SHADOW COSTUME!!
No. Let me make it easier for you. By representing Luigi with a Mario that is green you are effectivly ruining Luigi's unique personality (assuming that you are trying to represent him in the first place). By taking Mario and trying to make him look like Luigi, it ruins Luigi becuase he is not really Luigi. It takes away from who Luigi is. The Green Mario is for the Green team. That is what it's there for. It's not Luigi, it's your assumption that it is Luigi becuase Mario looks like Luigi. That would also be dumb to represent Luigi if he's sitting right next to Mario in the Roster. The costumes are there to throw a bit of variety in there, but people are taking it too far. Does the Yellow Mario get fatter? No, so it can't represent Wario. It's not Wario, it's Mario in a Yellow suit. It's the same for peach too. Does she have similarities to Daisy? Yes, but it's not Daisy. That's why I don't want a Black Sonic. It ruins Shadow becuase people just think that he is Sonic except black. It'll just reinforce the idea more, and it's not true. Shadow has a different personality than Sonic does, but people are so shallow that because Sonic is a Blue hedgehog and Shadow is a Black hedgehog, they automatically assume that they are the same. So unless there is a Black Team in Brawl, Shadow is his own Character, or he stays completely out of Brawl. If they do have a Black Sonic, IT'S NOT SHADOW! NOR IS IT A REPRESENTATIVE OF HIM!Stryks said:U say mario ruin his personality using luigis and warios costumes?!
U say peach ruined hers?
what about capt falcon?
You wish.Stryks said:Case closed.
wow thats some logic you got thereshoklan said:Ok, first thing... No ****ing Costume for Sonic that is like Shadow. Put him in, or keep him out. Sonic is NOT Shadow for the crying out loud. That would ruin both Sonic and Shadow in the game.
Shadow wont make it in, which sucks becuase I love him more than any Character developed by Sonic Team yet (yes, that includes the blue hedgehog). I propose a compromise for Tails fans(I used to be a Tails fan until Shadow came and Tails talked). Tails AND Shadow get in. They wont get in In Brawl, but if another SSB is made, then we can have both. Both can have extremely unique movesets, and both would be great characters.
Thank u now lets just hope this shuts Shoklan up... and if not then we'll lets hope god can do that for us XD.Blazer said:*jumps into debate with big barrier around him as not to get killed*
Now then, I for one love Shadow. He is much cooler than the other Sonic characters BUT, is he as popular outside the Sonic fanbase? No. Knuckles and Tails, are more well known and then Robotnik, then Shadow! Therein, Shadow is not as likely. I will give him over Robotnik simply because he is cooler but Knuckles and Tails are FAR too well known. So they'll probably be in before Shadow.
Onto the concept of him being a costume. Let me start off with the fact that if Shadow were his own character his moveset would at least resemble Sonic's. Why? Look at Shadow's premier 2 games SA2 and SH. They were the EXACT same minus a few slight advantages to Sonic. Shadow's most recent games on the other hand gave him orignality but not enough. SB gave him a completely different moveset but most of those moves would bad for a sidescrolling battler. Whereas StH used guns. Sakura doesn't like guns. Period.
Next is the personality. Are you stupid? This game doesn't show personality! There is not storylione whatsoever and the characters get 6 lines max! Shadow is basically Sonic in two games so don't give me crap about movesets either. Now I'm done. because I'm am starting to actually grow angry over your stupidity.
lmao, they're almost completely identical, what are you talking about. If you're referring to character than who cares? Shadow shouldn't be in this game. Not opinion, FACT.The only similarities between them is that they're both fast hedgehogs, no more, no less.