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Setting Up Our Online Smash Boards 3DS Tournament Teams

Should Smash Boards have its own 3DS Online Tournament Team?

  • For fun,yes.

    Votes: 40 38.8%
  • Yes, but only because it is for the community.

    Votes: 9 8.7%
  • Yes, I want someone to play with as soon as I get the game.

    Votes: 51 49.5%
  • No, this is a lame idea.

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • No, I just want to play the game for fun.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No, this will only lead to bragging rights in Smash Boards.

    Votes: 2 1.9%

  • Total voters
    103

Souless_shadow

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Let me lay down the options for launch:
  1. First come, first served. Anyone who's quick enough can form a clan until there's an adequate number of clans.
  2. Nomination. The community votes for interested users and top (insert #) users may form clans.
  3. Competition. A tournament of all interested users is held, and the top (insert #) users may form clans.
I think option 2 is the best one IMO
 

Nintendrone

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· In order for a clan to be formed the founder must meet two of the following four requirements:


§ Compete in more than two inner-clan tournaments, and one league tournament.

§ Must be ranked at least in the top 50% of their respective clan.

§ Must be a member of a clan for at least a season.

§ Must be in good standing with the 3DS Association’s Council, and the League they currently are in.

· Good standing is defined as: Having not been leveled more than three infractions during a season, and has not been caught cheating during an event.

o Cheating is defined as bracket-manipulation, misreporting of results, abusing glitches banned by the Association, and anything not mentioned that might draw into question the legitimacy of any tournament results, be they sets or overall.

o Upon the meeting of two of the four requirements, the clan founder will be granted permission by the 3DS Association to engage in one or more of the following:

§ Petition for membership in a league

§ Recruit members for their clan

§ Petition for League Organizer status
Looks good so far. About the formation of clans: there is no real reason to only require 2 of 4. Because all of the prerequisites are very important, it should be all 4.
 

ElectricCitrus

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Fair enough, I was also thinking two might be way too easy to achieve. Four it is.

EDIT: Here is the updated version of the Citrus System. I added a section detailing punishments and infractions, which I can't believe I overlooked in the first place. Again sorry for the weird formatting, can't upload .doc or .docx for whatever reason.
The Citrus-System

The governing-rules for the 3DS Competitive Smash Scene

Version 1.0























Written By:

Matthew “ElectricCitrus” Barker

Clans and Leagues


· In the Competitive Smash 3Ds scene there exists a hierarchy of leagues and clans, in the simplest of terms the leagues are the organization of the clans and the clans are the teams that compete within each league. How clans are ranked in leagues is based entirely on the performance of said clan. If a clan does exceptionally well during a season, then they will advance in their league’s rankings.

· Upon the completion of a season, the top clan will advance to the next league, while the bottom clan will drop to the league below them.

o How clans are ranked within their league is to be based on the average of the team’s performance at tournaments in the season.

§ The performance in a tournament is given a direct numerical rating based on the number of clans, or members, competing e.g. a placement of 1st in a tournament of seven will give that clan seven points, for being better than the other teams; likewise a placement of 7th will give the clan only one point for competing.

· Individual rankings will follow the same format, meaning a player who places first gets a converted point total of # of competitors he/she bested plus 1.

§ Once all the tournaments have been completed in a given season, the points are totaled up and averaged. Should a tie arise, the two clans who are tied will then have the performance of each member evaluated. The clan that has had the best performance on a member level will be allowed to advance to the next-highest league. In the unlikely event of a tie at the member level, the two clans will duke it out in a single-elimination tournament to establish who will advance.


o The amount of clans in a league will always be even, or as close to even as possible. Meaning that if one league has five clans then all the leagues MUST have at MINIMUM four. Should it arise that no leagues will be able to be even, or within a reasonable amount of evenness, then there will be a new league formed until they return to an even amount.


· In order for a clan to be formed the founder must meet the following four requirements:


§ Compete in more than two inner-clan tournaments, and one league tournament.

§ Must be ranked at least in the top 50% of their respective clan.

§ Must be a member of a clan for at least a season.

§ Must be in good standing with the 3DS Association’s Council, and the League they currently are in.

· Good standing is defined as: Having not been leveled more than three infractions during a season, and has not been caught cheating during an event.

o Cheating is defined as bracket-manipulation, misreporting of results, abusing glitches banned by the Association, and anything not mentioned that might draw into question the legitimacy of any tournament results, be they sets or overall.

o Upon the meeting of the four requirements, the clan founder will be granted permission by the 3DS Association to engage in one or more of the following:

§ Petition for membership in a league

§ Recruit members for their clan

§ Petition for League Organizer status

o In order for a clan to be granted access into a league, the clan must have at minimum eight members. Once this number is met they may petition for access into a league of their choice, however if the league of their choice is in a top-ranked position the clan must show exceptional skill.

§ Alternatively new clans may opt to be put into the lowest-level league. This is the default outcome if no petitioning is done within five days of clan formation.

o Should a clan drop below eight members, they will no longer be ranked in their league, but they will still be allowed to compete. If, by the end of the season in which the membership drops, the clan has not regained their members, and or has dropped to below six members they will be considered a dead clan.

o Dead clan’s cannot:

§ Compete in league tournaments

§ Be ranked

§ Have their captains nominated to join the League Organizers and 3DS Association Council

o A dead clan may be “revived” if the following conditions are met by the END of the next season.

§ Membership returns to 8 or above

§ Approval is gained through a 2/3 vote of the 3DS Association

§ The clan captain which caused the death of the clan is no longer captain

§ Clan agrees to be in the bottom league for their return season.

o Clan’s are lead by captains who are elected from within the clan through a two-part voting series:

§ Nominations and a vote to confirm three nominations

§ Final vote between the three nominees to select the captain.

o Captains remain in place until they fall out of good standing with the league—as defined by the good standing clause of the clan formation section—or until they retire.

§ Upon retiring, the process will begin but with one change: The retiring captain is given permission to nominate one member of the clan who is instantly placed in the second round of voting.

















League Organization and the 3DS Association

· The Leagues are lead by League Organizers, who are selected through a vote by all the clans within the league. In order to be nominated for League Organizer status, a participant must meet the following requirements:

§ Be in outstanding condition with the 3DS Association

· Outstanding condition is defined as having no-infractions leveled during a season, a life-time infraction count of below 5, and has never been found cheating.

§ Have shown dedication to their league by participating in a majority of tournaments

§ Have shown dedication to their clan by participating in a majority of clan tournaments

§ Is not currently the captain of a clan

o Once candidates are found that meet all of the above requirements, a vote will be held and the top two will be submitted to the Association for approval.

o League Organizers have the sole purpose of organizing their respective leagues, fulfilling any obligations that include, but are not limited to:

§ Organizing tournaments

§ Compiling accurate results

o League Organizers are changed every four seasons.

· The 3DS Association is made up of League Organizers who are voted in, an eligible League Organizer is anyone who meets the following categories

§ Outstanding condition

§ Dedication their league

o The purpose of the 3DS Association is to act as the supreme governing body of competitive Smash 3DS, and as such they retain all rights to form and alter rules as they see fit.

o Membership of the association is for life, or until good-service runs out.










Seasons and Required Tournaments

o Seasons are to last for a quarter of the year, or roughly 3 months; there are to be four seasons a year.

o Each season is to feature at minimum four league tournaments, and any number of cross-clan tournaments/inner-clan tournaments

§ In addition to the four required league tournaments, there will be an All-Star tournament held every two seasons. The All-Star tournament will consist of the top three players from each clan, and the top two players from each league. It will be played at the end of the second season, a two weeks prior to the beginning of the third season.

· Should the top two players from a league consist of any of the top three of a clan; adjustments additional players are to be added at the discretion of the League Organizer.








Tournament types

o The 3DS Association recognizes three types of tournaments for the purpose of rankings:

§ Cross-Clan tournaments, featuring clans within a League playing against other clans in the same league

§ Inner-Clan tournaments, tournaments played within a clan featuring only members from said clan

§ League tournaments, tournaments between two or more leagues

o The 3DS Association also recognizes the following events:

§ 1v1, or singles

§ 2v2, or doubles

§ low-tier tournaments e.g. those featuring character considered to be low-tier

o The following types of tournaments are not barred, but will not be counted for the purpose of rankings:

§ Cross-Clan tournaments, featuring clans from different leagues and not organized as a league tournament.

§ Inner-Clan tournaments, featuring players from both within and beyond said clan.

o In order for a tournament to be eligible, and considered for rankings it must not only meet the requirements previously stated but must also adhere to any rules currently accepted by the 3DS Association; this may include but is not limited to rules such as;

§ No-Items

§ Stage Bans

§ Character Bans

§ Glitch Abuses

§ Dave’s Stupid Rule


















Infractions and Punishment

· Infractions will be levied to players, league organizers, and members of the 3DS Association based on the breaking of any of these rules:

§ Incivility

§ Being kicked from a tournament for breaking tournament rules

§ Breaking any rules posted on the 3DS Alliance forums

o Players are given a maximum of five infractions before punishments are dolled out.

· Punishments are one a scale of severity going from one (least severe) to five (most severe)

§ Warning, and tournament ban for one week

§ Warning, and tournament ban for one month

§ Warning, and tournament ban for one season

§ Warning, tournament ban for two seasons, and kicked from your Clan.

§ Tournament ban for life as well as stripped of all rankings

· Fifth level to be altered at the discretion of the 3DS Association, with the exception being for illegal activity.

o The only way to achieve the fifth level of punishment is to engage in any of the following activities

§ Cheating of a severe nature

· Severe nature is defined as acts including, but not limited to:

o Using hacked hardware

o Knowingly manipulating brackets

o Accepting bribes to throw matches

§ Committing acts deemed illegal by common law

§ Accumulating more than fifty infractions in a season

o Clan Captain or League Officials knowingly allowing tournament bans to go unnoticed will be given a warning.

o Clan-Captains or League Officials knowingly allowing, aiding, or turning a blind eye to cheating, banned for life players, or illegal activity will be immediately stripped of their rank and given a review by the 3DS Association to determine their punishment.

§ If it is a case of illegal activity the League Official or Clan-Captain found guilty of aiding, allowing, or turning a blind-eye to will be stripped of their rank, and banned for life.

EDIT 2: I also changed the 2/4 requirement for clan founding to 4/4 since I feel that the requirements are all fairly easy to achieve, and will help foster the creation of dedicated clans.

EDIT 3: What is not enumerated is that infractions are tracked both lifetime and by the season, seasonal infractions get reset with each new season but sitll count towards a lifetime total.
 
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Number1MinunFan

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Fair enough, I was also thinking two might be way too easy to achieve. Four it is.

EDIT: Here is the updated version of the Citrus System. I added a section detailing punishments and infractions, which I can't believe I overlooked in the first place. Again sorry for the weird formatting, can't upload .doc or .docx for whatever reason.
The Citrus-System

The governing-rules for the 3DS Competitive Smash Scene

Version 1.0























Written By:

Matthew “ElectricCitrus” Barker

Clans and Leagues


· In the Competitive Smash 3Ds scene there exists a hierarchy of leagues and clans, in the simplest of terms the leagues are the organization of the clans and the clans are the teams that compete within each league. How clans are ranked in leagues is based entirely on the performance of said clan. If a clan does exceptionally well during a season, then they will advance in their league’s rankings.

· Upon the completion of a season, the top clan will advance to the next league, while the bottom clan will drop to the league below them.

o How clans are ranked within their league is to be based on the average of the team’s performance at tournaments in the season.

§ The performance in a tournament is given a direct numerical rating based on the number of clans, or members, competing e.g. a placement of 1st in a tournament of seven will give that clan seven points, for being better than the other teams; likewise a placement of 7th will give the clan only one point for competing.

· Individual rankings will follow the same format, meaning a player who places first gets a converted point total of # of competitors he/she bested plus 1.

§ Once all the tournaments have been completed in a given season, the points are totaled up and averaged. Should a tie arise, the two clans who are tied will then have the performance of each member evaluated. The clan that has had the best performance on a member level will be allowed to advance to the next-highest league. In the unlikely event of a tie at the member level, the two clans will duke it out in a single-elimination tournament to establish who will advance.


o The amount of clans in a league will always be even, or as close to even as possible. Meaning that if one league has five clans then all the leagues MUST have at MINIMUM four. Should it arise that no leagues will be able to be even, or within a reasonable amount of evenness, then there will be a new league formed until they return to an even amount.


· In order for a clan to be formed the founder must meet the following four requirements:


§ Compete in more than two inner-clan tournaments, and one league tournament.

§ Must be ranked at least in the top 50% of their respective clan.

§ Must be a member of a clan for at least a season.

§ Must be in good standing with the 3DS Association’s Council, and the League they currently are in.

· Good standing is defined as: Having not been leveled more than three infractions during a season, and has not been caught cheating during an event.

o Cheating is defined as bracket-manipulation, misreporting of results, abusing glitches banned by the Association, and anything not mentioned that might draw into question the legitimacy of any tournament results, be they sets or overall.

o Upon the meeting of two of the four requirements, the clan founder will be granted permission by the 3DS Association to engage in one or more of the following:

§ Petition for membership in a league

§ Recruit members for their clan

§ Petition for League Organizer status

o In order for a clan to be granted access into a league, the clan must have at minimum eight members. Once this number is met they may petition for access into a league of their choice, however if the league of their choice is in a top-ranked position the clan must show exceptional skill.

§ Alternatively new clans may opt to be put into the lowest-level league. This is the default outcome if no petitioning is done within five days of clan formation.

o Should a clan drop below eight members, they will no longer be ranked in their league, but they will still be allowed to compete. If, by the end of the season in which the membership drops, the clan has not regained their members, and or has dropped to below six members they will be considered a dead clan.

o Dead clan’s cannot:

§ Compete in league tournaments

§ Be ranked

§ Have their captains nominated to join the League Organizers and 3DS Association Council

o A dead clan may be “revived” if the following conditions are met by the END of the next season.

§ Membership returns to 8 or above

§ Approval is gained through a 2/3 vote of the 3DS Association

§ The clan captain which caused the death of the clan is no longer captain

§ Clan agrees to be in the bottom league for their return season.

o Clan’s are lead by captains who are elected from within the clan through a two-part voting series:

§ Nominations and a vote to confirm three nominations

§ Final vote between the three nominees to select the captain.

o Captains remain in place until they fall out of good standing with the league—as defined by the good standing clause of the clan formation section—or until they retire.

§ Upon retiring, the process will begin but with one change: The retiring captain is given permission to nominate one member of the clan who is instantly placed in the second round of voting.

















League Organization and the 3DS Association

· The Leagues are lead by League Organizers, who are selected through a vote by all the clans within the league. In order to be nominated for League Organizer status, a participant must meet the following requirements:

§ Be in outstanding condition with the 3DS Association

· Outstanding condition is defined as having no-infractions leveled during a season, a life-time infraction count of below 5, and has never been found cheating.

§ Have shown dedication to their league by participating in a majority of tournaments

§ Have shown dedication to their clan by participating in a majority of clan tournaments

§ Is not currently the captain of a clan

o Once candidates are found that meet all of the above requirements, a vote will be held and the top two will be submitted to the Association for approval.

o League Organizers have the sole purpose of organizing their respective leagues, fulfilling any obligations that include, but are not limited to:

§ Organizing tournaments

§ Compiling accurate results

o League Organizers are changed every four seasons.

· The 3DS Association is made up of League Organizers who are voted in, an eligible League Organizer is anyone who meets the following categories

§ Outstanding condition

§ Dedication their league

o The purpose of the 3DS Association is to act as the supreme governing body of competitive Smash 3DS, and as such they retain all rights to form and alter rules as they see fit.

o Membership of the association is for life, or until good-service runs out.










Seasons and Required Tournaments

o Seasons are to last for a quarter of the year, or roughly 3 months; there are to be four seasons a year.

o Each season is to feature at minimum four league tournaments, and any number of cross-clan tournaments/inner-clan tournaments

§ In addition to the four required league tournaments, there will be an All-Star tournament held every two seasons. The All-Star tournament will consist of the top three players from each clan, and the top two players from each league. It will be played at the end of the second season, a two weeks prior to the beginning of the third season.

· Should the top two players from a league consist of any of the top three of a clan; adjustments additional players are to be added at the discretion of the League Organizer.








Tournament types

o The 3DS Association recognizes three types of tournaments for the purpose of rankings:

§ Cross-Clan tournaments, featuring clans within a League playing against other clans in the same league

§ Inner-Clan tournaments, tournaments played within a clan featuring only members from said clan

§ League tournaments, tournaments between two or more leagues

o The 3DS Association also recognizes the following events:

§ 1v1, or singles

§ 2v2, or doubles

§ low-tier tournaments e.g. those featuring character considered to be low-tier

o The following types of tournaments are not barred, but will not be counted for the purpose of rankings:

§ Cross-Clan tournaments, featuring clans from different leagues and not organized as a league tournament.

§ Inner-Clan tournaments, featuring players from both within and beyond said clan.

o In order for a tournament to be eligible, and considered for rankings it must not only meet the requirements previously stated but must also adhere to any rules currently accepted by the 3DS Association; this may include but is not limited to rules such as;

§ No-Items

§ Stage Bans

§ Character Bans

§ Glitch Abuses

§ Dave’s Stupid Rule


















Infractions and Punishment

· Infractions will be levied to players, league organizers, and members of the 3DS Association based on the breaking of any of these rules:

§ Incivility

§ Being kicked from a tournament for breaking tournament rules

§ Breaking any rules posted on the 3ds alliance forums

o Players are given a maximum of ten infractions before punishments are dolled out.

· Punishments are one a scale of severity going from one (least severe) to five (most severe)

§ Warning, and tournament ban for one week

§ Warning, and tournament ban for one month

§ Warning, and tournament ban for one season

§ Warning, tournament ban for two seasons, and kicked from your Clan.

§ Tournament ban for life as well as stripped of all rankings

· Fifth level to be altered at the discretion of the 3DS Association, with the exception being for illegal activity.

o The only way to achieve the fifth level of punishment is to engage in any of the following activities

§ Cheating of a severe nature

· Severe nature is defined as acts including, but not limited to:

o Using hacked hardware

o Knowingly manipulating brackets

o Accepting bribes to throw matches

§ Committing acts deemed illegal by common law

§ Accumulating more than fifty infractions in a season

o Clan Captain or League Officials knowingly allowing tournament bans to go unnoticed will be given a warning.

o Clan-Captains or League Officials knowingly allowing, aiding, or turning a blind eye to cheating, banned for life players, or illegal activity will be immediately stripped of their rank and given a review by the 3DS Association to determine their punishment.

§ If it is a case of illegal activity the League Official or Clan-Captain found guilty of aiding, allowing, or turning a blind-eye to will be stripped of their rank, and banned for life.

EDIT 2: I also changed the 2/4 requirement for clan founding to 4/4 since I feel that the requirements are all fairly easy to achieve, and will help foster the creation of dedicated clans.

EDIT 3: What is not enumerated is that infractions are tracked both lifetime and by the season, seasonal infractions get reset with each new season but sitll count towards a lifetime total.
Accidental Double-Post
 
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Nintendrone

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o Upon the meeting of two of the four requirements, the clan founder will be granted permission by the 3DS Association to engage in one or more of the following:
Forgot to change that;)
Also, 10 infractions needed for punishment is too forgiving. It should really be 3 or something. This doc also needs the procedure for starting up when the game comes out. I believe that nominating people to start the prelim clans is currently the most popular option.
 

ElectricCitrus

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Ah yes my bad, I'll go back and quickly alter those and add the startup for clans. Thanks for pointing out the errors Nintendrone!


EDIT: Actually I'm going to omit the start-up clan procedure because this document will need to be used for the entirety of the communities lifespan. I think for now we can all agree on a way to nominate the startup clans. I will definitely be changing the infraction limit to five like it originally was.
 
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LiteralGrill

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I would urge to keep things as simple as possible while allowing the players as much control as you can with clans.
 

ElectricCitrus

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Thanks for the suggestions Capps. I think clan members have a lot of control, especially when it comes to clan-captains and league organizers. Also clan members are the ones who will be in charge of setting up inner-clan, and cross-clan tournaments so they have control over that as well--something I will elaborate on in the next update of the System.

EDIT: So I had a thought that the leagues would be static going from best to worst, and clans would just switch around their leagues based on performance (already in the System) but an example of what I'm talking about would be like this

Alpha League (top)
Clans: The As, the Bs, The Cs, and the Ds

Beta League (next highest)
Clans: The 1s, the 2s, the 3s, and the 4s

By the end of the season the 1s would move up to the Alpha League and the Ds would move to the Beta League meaning next season would look like this

Alpha League
Clans: The As, the Bs, the Cs, and the 1s

Beta League
Clans: The 2s, the 3s, the 4s, and the Ds.
 
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LiteralGrill

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For Those Interested In Clans, the website that has been in the works is ready enough for folks to come get a look at. I don't wanna advertise on a public thread on smashboards (global rules and all) so anyone who has interest in clans please send me a PM and I'll get you a link over to the site!
 

ElectricCitrus

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You can also view the latest version of the Citrus system there too! And speaking of which, anyone got any ideas for whether or not we should have a cap on the amount of members that can be in a given clan? Right now I don't think there should be any, but if someone can come up with solid arguments for why there should be I'm all ears.
 

Oracle_Summon

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Just so I'm clear on what the OP question is - do you mean an overall 3DS Smashboards team to represent the site as a whole in online tournaments, or do you mean just a Smashboards online tournament scene in general, where everyone makes their own teams?

Because I actually don't like the former idea. Firstly, it assumes that there would be other sites with dedicated teams to go up against. Secondly, it's closed off.

I believe individual members setting up their own teams and then trying to make a scene out of that would be much better and be healthier for an online tournament scene. Having "the Smashboards team" is demotivating, and sets a definite, constant ranking of who the best players on the site are. Even if that's not the intention of the team, and even if those players aren't necessarily the best 3DS players on Smashboards, they will inevitably be perceived this way. This in turn will demotivate a lot of people, because in their mind, the Smashboards 3DS Team will be the players they can never top, no matter how well they play. So being the top player will feel impossible to anyone outside of that team.

However, we could hold an annual thing or something where Smashboards players go against players of other big sites or organisations, provided the scene gets big enough. This would be done by re-forming a new team every year, which could be decided based on the players who perform the best in tournaments officially recognised by Smashboards every single year. It gives every individual player a chance to shine in the spotlight, but doesn't set a constant, near impossible to beat bar for people to never be able to beat.
Sorry it took so long to reply. Anything people want to do really, but my goal was just to get the 3DS Community going anyway possible.
 
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