Sephiroth and cloud 4 brawl

[Kunitsuna]

Black Mage is old and doesn't need revival, specially in a series like Smash, why would they choose a generic character like Black Mage if they have more than 8 games to choose characters from, Black Mage is just a suggestion in these forums because you people won't admit that there are better Final Fantasy reps (i.e Cloud, Terra) or even Chrono who does represent the Nintendo's relationship with Square, or even Geno who is a square character created for the Mario series, believe me there are by far better characters than Black Mage to represent Square-Enix in Brawl, you again are just biased, because Black Mage is the only character who could represent the Nintendo Final Fantasies, plus, Kingdom Hearts is having more sequels in Nintendo systems (Even if the Nintendo ones suck), so Sora may even get the spot before your beloved Black Mage.

and about Final Fantasy X and XII, you are one of the few people who hates these games, they are best sellers, critically aclaimed amazing representations of the series, you're just mad that those sequels are not in the Gamecube or the Wii, check your facts!

I just listed a number of recent games in which Black Mage has appeared, indicating that he is not an old character and isn´t even dead (and in need for revival) in the first place, but as many other things you chose to ignore it.

I´m using Black Mage as an overall example here; there are many other Final Fantasy characters who could get in, such as, as you mentioned, Terra. I´m not arguing specifically for Black Mage as much as I´m arguing against Cloud, as is everyone else here.

Again, yes, Crono or characters from other Squeenix franchises might get the spot, but we´re arguing Final Fantasy.

Black Mage is not the only character who could represent the Nintendo part of Final Fantasy. The first six Final Fantasies were on a Nintendo system, and so have many other installations of the series. What are you talking about?

Oh, so because everyone likes FFX and XII I´m supposed to adore it as well. I guess it´s sad I don´t.

...I´m mad that they´re not on the Gamecube or Wii? Idiot, I have a Playstation, I play systems that aren´t Nintendo. Your accusations of me being a fanboy are baseless and at this point laughable. The last shred of logic behind your arguments was blown away long ago; stop.

 

[vesperview]

Sora is owned by DISNEY . You fail. instantly.


Look up your facts. He was designed by SE, but is owned by Disney. Go ahead check it out. I'm right your wrong STFU if you can't get anything RIGHT.


Pikachu Yellow version is one game from the series, by your logic Lugia, and Ho-Oh are going to be characters, having one or two movies based off of them

The only person failing here is you.

STFU you stupid idiot! again Pikachu is the most important and famous pokemon of the series unlike your stupid Black Mage, that example is dead stupid and no one would agree with you, what you want Trainer in Brawl, well there he is now stop complaining about it, now Kingdom Hearts is owned by Square-Enix, all the Disney **** in the game isn't now check your stupid facts and STFU!

You're the only one failing.

 

[Kunitsuna]

No, Silent_Hill_Crossing is correct; the character of Sora is owned by the Disney company.

Shut up.

 

[Silent_Hill_Crossing]

STFU you stupid idiot! again Pikachu is the most important and famous pokemon of the series unlike your stupid Black Mage, that example is dead stupid and no one would agree with you, what you want Trainer in Brawl, well there he is now stop complaining about it, now Kingdom Hearts is owned by Square-Enix, all the Disney **** in the game isn't now check your stupid facts and STFU!

You're the only one failing.

Now you're failing. Pikachu has done nothing for the series outside of the anime.


Disney has rights to Kingdom Hearts.

Failure.

Kunitsuna give it up, the idiot won't listen to logic, because he is UUA.


And look up on Wiki/ SE Production character rights, SORA ISN'T ON THEM. Stop being a **** moron, and actually think for once in your life. GG were you born yesterday?

 

[vesperview]

Now you're failing. Pikachu has done nothing for the series outside of the anime.


Disney has rights to Kingdom Hearts.

Failure.

Kunitsuna give it up, the idiot won't listen to logic, because he is UUA.


And look up on Wiki/ SE Production character rights, SORA ISN'T ON THEM. Stop being a **** moron, and actually think for once in your life. GG were you born yesterday?

Sora is owned by Square Enix, Mickey Isn't Disney has rights in the game because they are lending most of their characters in the game, all of the square created characters don't belong to Disney, and Pokemon in Brawl are hardly influenced by the games, again STUPID example, Trainer is the lead of the pokemon games and now he is in Brawl, so you can shut up about that now you're the only idiot who thinks his opinions are facts, Sora is not a disney character you ****ing fail, he is in the Poll apparently Sakurai doesn't find it impossible now STFU and stop being an idiot!

 

[Rakath]

Now you're failing. Pikachu has done nothing for the series outside of the anime.


Disney has rights to Kingdom Hearts.

Failure.

Kunitsuna give it up, the idiot won't listen to logic, because he is UUA.


And look up on Wiki/ SE Production character rights, SORA ISN'T ON THEM. Stop being a **** moron, and actually think for once in your life. GG were you born yesterday?

Pikachu is the main character of the anime and 3 different Mangas... ^^;;

Sorry to make you look bad, but Pikachu kinda gained some status outside the anime.

 

[Silent_Hill_Crossing]

Pikachu is the main character of the anime and 3 different Mangas... ^^;;

Sorry to make you look bad, but Pikachu kinda gained some status outside the anime.

You proved my point actually. Sakurai said no character gaining popularity from anime/manga would be in Brawl. Look at Pikachu and BLACK MAGE.

Sora is owned by Square Enix, Mickey Isn't Disney has rights in the game because they are lending most of their characters in the game, all of the square created characters don't belong to Disney, and Pokemon in Brawl are hardly influenced by the games, again STUPID example, Trainer is the lead of the pokemon games and now he is in Brawl, so you can shut up about that now you're the only idiot who thinks his opinions are facts, Sora is not a disney character you ****ing fail, he is in the Poll apparently Sakurai doesn't find it impossible now STFU and stop being an idiot!

Pics nao, or you're full of ****.


Disney owns Sora. I don't know about Riku, but Sora was and is owned by Disney. STOP THE FAIL MORON.

 

[Dragon Master Luigi]

The guy who made this is one big, fat, dip-****ed *******... Everyone knows they're unlogical characters!!

 

[Kunitsuna]

Sora is owned by Square Enix, Mickey Isn't Disney has rights in the game because they are lending most of their characters in the game, all of the square created characters don't belong to Disney,

Sora belongs to Disney, even though he was not created by them. They have the intellectual rights to Sora. You´re in denial.

and Pokemon in Brawl are hardly influenced by the games, again STUPID example, Trainer is the lead of the pokemon games and now he is in Brawl, so you can shut up about that now you're the only idiot who thinks his opinions are facts,

May I point you to ten seconds ago, where you blatantly disregarded reality in exchange for your version of it?

Sora is not a disney character you ****ing fail, he is in the Poll apparently Sakurai doesn't find it impossible

James Bond is also in the poll. Invalid argument.

now STFU and stop being an idiot!

God the irony.

 

[tirkaro]

You proved my point actually. Sakurai said no character gaining popularity from anime/manga would be in Brawl. Look at Pikachu and BLACK MAGE.

he said no character from a manga/anime would get in. stop twisting sakurai's words.

 

[vesperview]

You proved my point actually. Sakurai said no character gaining popularity from anime/manga would be in Brawl. Look at Pikachu and BLACK MAGE.



Pics nao, or you're full of ****.


Disney owns Sora. I don't know about Riku, but Sora was and is owned by Disney. STOP THE FAIL MORON.

Disney doesn't own Sora, Riku, Kairi, Xemnas, Roxas, Axel, stop making yourself look bad, you're a stupid idiot, and you don't counter the fact that he is in Sakurai's Poll because you know Sora has a shot of being in the game, again ****ING FAIL!

@ the other idiot posting:

James Bond being in the poll has nothing to do with this you idiot!

If you're so sure he belongs to Disney and not square show proof.

 

[Silent_Hill_Crossing]

In summery:


"I'm going to insult you and try and act like my blatant idiocy is correct, and counter any argument wrong, because I'm a **** moron. "

Good going.

Sora IS owned by Disney.

FACT.


Check Game Faqs, check any body who has checked the rights on Sora, he belongs to Disney.

 

[Dragon Master Luigi]

Cloud, Sephroth, and Sora are Playstation characters.... I'm pretty sure Mega Man is gonna be the last third-party character...

 

[Silent_Hill_Crossing]

he said no character from a manga/anime would get in. stop twisting sakurai's words.

I wasn't.





If some character becomes popular due to an anime/Manga that said character would be known due to the manga/anime.

The Pikachu in SSB series has been said to be Ash's Pikachu. An anime Pikachu none-the-less.

Therefore I didn't twist any words.

 

[Kunitsuna]

Disney doesn't own Sora, Riku, Kairi, Xemnas, Roxas, Axel, stop making yourself look bad, you're a stupid idiot, and you don't counter the fact that he is in Sakurai's Poll because you know Sora has a shot of being in the game, again ****ING FAIL!

Sora is owned by Disney. We will continue repeating this until you accept it or turn yourself in for mental treatment.

James Bond being in the poll has nothing to do with this you idiot!

Yes it does. You said that Sora´s inclusion in SSBB is deemed "possible" by Sakurai, because he appeared in the poll. Nevertheless, James Bond also appeared in the poll, and he has no chance of appearing in SSBB. Therefore you can´t make conjectures such as "Sakurai thinks it´s possible!" based on the poll, because the poll is nothing but a marketing stunt.

If you're so sure he belongs to Disney and not square show proof.

Check Wikipedia, like you were told ages ago.

 

[tirkaro]

Cloud, Sephroth, and Sora are Playstation characters....

no. they're square enix characters.

 

[Silent_Hill_Crossing]

no. they're square enix characters.

Sora is OWNED by Disney.


Geno is OWNED by SE.


>_>;

 

[vesperview]

That's like saying Geno belongs to Nintendo because he was in a Mario game, Sora is owned by Square Enix, you can't counter that, I'm tired of arguing with you morons, [sarcasm]have a nice day![/sarcasm]

You have no written statement that counters that so you all fail!

 

[Silent_Hill_Crossing]

That's like saying Geno belongs to Nintendo because he was in a Mario game, Sora is owned by Square Enix, you can't counter that, I'm tired of arguing with you morons, [sarcasm]have a nice day![/sarcasm]

You have no written statement that counters that so you all fail!

Notice how Cloud is in KH?

Cloud is owned by SE.

Geno was righted to SE.

Sora was righted to DISNEY.

Have a nice day failing at life.

 

[Dragon Master Luigi]

Why would Disney be involved with Smash Bros. Brawl? If they were, they'd put Mickey Mouse in since he's Disney's Mascot, put him before Sora

 

[vesperview]

So answer me this, if Sora is owned by Disney why isn't he stated in the Index as third party disney? they know what they're talking about, you just can't prove that Sora is owned by Disney because he isn't, Now STFU and keep on the fail, you're really good at it!

 

[Kunitsuna]

Because the creator of that thread is not aware that Sora is owned by Disney. Sakurai also made a mistake when he listed Geno as third party; people make mistakes.

Seriously.

 

[Silent_Hill_Crossing]

Why would Disney be involved with Smash Bros. Brawl? If they were, they'd put Mickey Mouse in since he's Disney's Mascot, put him before Sora

Mickey Mouse is an anime (If you count Cartoons as Anime) based character.

But some idiots think Sora is from SE. Makes me laugh every time I see them.

BTW Disney doesn't like Nintendo.

In a recorded poll, Mario was found to be more popular or well known than Mickey.

So answer me this, if Sora is owned by Disney why isn't he stated in the Index as third party disney? they know what they're talking about, you just can't prove that Sora is owned by Disney because he isn't, Now STFU and keep on the fail, you're really good at it

You left remember? Stay gone.

 

[vesperview]

You left remember? Stay gone.

Typical **** losers do when they can't back up their ****, you're a ****ing fail.

Again you can't prove anything you're saying, thus you fail!

 

[Silent_Hill_Crossing]

Typical **** losers do when they can't back up their ****, you're a ****ing fail.

Again you can't prove anything you're saying, thus you fail!

And you didn't prove anything.

Oxymoron. Learn the difference. Prove to me he is owned by SE. REAL proof. >_> Can't. You fail. You should have left when you had the chance. Again I repeat UUA.

 

[Dragon Master Luigi]

These Square Enix and Disney characters from Playstation will NEVER be seen in Smash Bros. They have only one or none third-party character slot left... its gonna go to Bomberman, Pac-man, Rayman, OR Megaman..

 

[vesperview]

http://community.livejournal.com/thesecret_place/

They are owned by both companies, no one wins, get it?

Now Sora has a chance of being in Brawl whether you like it or not, now **** you

Keep on the fail and cry your heart out when Megaman is confirmed.

 

[Silent_Hill_Crossing]

http://community.livejournal.com/thesecret_place/

They are owned by both companies, no one wins, get it?

Now Sora has a chance of being in Brawl whether you like it or not, now **** you

Keep on the fail and cry your heart out when Megaman is confirmed.

Nope. You're still wrong. You can't have two companies owning the same character.

Disney owns Sora, SE MADE Sora.

You fail.

I wanted MM in Brawl. Lern2Read. Along with BM and Geno.


All you did was prove you can't read. LMAO!

 

[vesperview]

**** off already... at least I provided some kind of proof, and a character can be owned by two companies, ever heard of shared copyrights? again FAIL, provide substantial proof that Sora is owned by Disney, oh wait you CAN'T, now unless you have links, statements or whatever to prove that, STFU already.

 

[Dragon Master Luigi]

When Brawl comes out and I find every character in the game and see no Cloud, Sephroth, and Sora, I'm gonna laugh at the dumb ****s who made this ******* thread!! This is soooo stupid!!!

 

[Silent_Hill_Crossing]

**** off already... at least I provided some kind of proof, and a character can be owned by two companies, ever heard of shared copyrights? again FAIL, provide substantial proof that Sora is owned by Disney, oh wait you CAN'T, now unless you have links, statements or whatever to prove that, STFU already.

LMAO. Do you know you just described Geno? Shared Copy right? You buffoon. Both companies would have to allow the character in Brawl, is all you're saying. Again Disney would never do it.

You not only can't tell what a term means, read, or understand anthing past second grade. You obviously fail at life. Made my day.

 

[vesperview]

LMAO. Do you know you just described Geno? Shared Copy right? You buffoon. Both companies would have to allow the character in Brawl, is all you're saying. Again Disney would never do it.

You not only can't tell what a term means, read, or understand anthing past second grade. You obviously fail at life. Made my day.

OK Now you rely on stupid logic, plus Geno isn't considered third party by Sakurai, he is second party which means SHARED! While one company still has to allow use of the character, it is not completely owned by that company and two companies can share copyrights, you don't have proof of what you say, you're wasting both my time and yours, you're an idiot and anyone could own your stupidity.

Now, no more replies, unless you have proof, cause seriously, FAILURE is your trademark.

**** off now!

 

[Dragonblood21]

Thinking about Sephiroth being in SSBB makes me want to punch an infant...

 

[Kunitsuna]

**** off already... at least I provided some kind of proof, and a character can be owned by two companies, ever heard of shared copyrights? again FAIL, provide substantial proof that Sora is owned by Disney, oh wait you CAN'T, now unless you have links, statements or whatever to prove that, STFU already.

You provided a fanfic for proof, which is as good as nothing. We are right, you are wrong. You may not be aware of it now but at some point you will out that Sora is indeed owned by Disney, and regret all of this.

Stop and leave.

 

[vesperview]

and you two offer nothing for proof NOW STFU you stupid n00bs.

 

[Dragon Master Luigi]

n00b... such an overrated word.. not cool..

 

[Silent_Hill_Crossing]

OK Now you rely on stupid logic, plus Geno isn't considered third party by Sakurai, he is second party which means SHARED! While one company still has to allow use of the character, it is not completely owned by that company and two companies can share copyrights, you don't have proof of what you say, you're wasting both my time and yours, you're an idiot and anyone could own your stupidity.

Geno is OWNED by SE. Sakurai stated he would TREAT him like a FPC/SPC. In real aspects Geno is TPC. He is also between Nintendo AND SE. How?

SMRPG the series is made by Nintendo. Geno is made by SE to be in SMRPG. Doesn't equal the same thing.

Now, no more replies, unless you have proof, cause seriously, FAILURE is your trademark.

**** off now!

You fail so bad you killed 98% of the general public with your stupidity. That is your birthmark. PERIOD.

Since you ignored logic throughout this topic StFU. No one cares about you or what you have to say, unless it is to mock your stupidity. Which I am having a laugh at.

Again I pinpoint you to GF where they have all the links proving Sora is TPC.

 

[Silent_Hill_Crossing]

and I offer nothing for proof NOW STFU Since I'm a stupid n00b.

I agree, you are a noob, and indeed need to STFU. Since you can't say anything without being incorrect.

 

[Dragon Master Luigi]

Nintendo ASKED Square Enix for PERMISSION to use Geno in Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga (Mario and Luigi minigame).. so Geno IS owned by Square Enix

 

[Silent_Hill_Crossing]

Nintendo ASKED Square Enix for PERMISSION to use Geno in Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga (Mario and Luigi minigame).. so Geno IS owned by Square Enix

This^


And the same would apply to SE for use of Sora, from Disney.

Notice how Sora hasn't been in many spin-off Non-KH games? While Geno, Cloud have been in other series?