Season 1 Midwest Circuit Rankings!

[KishSquared]

Season 1 is OVER!!

Nealdt has generously offered us detailed rankings for our Circuit! Check out the results from all our events!
FRI2 - Results
COKII - Results
SMYM6 - Results
FOB5 - Results
SMYM7 - Results

 

[KishSquared]

Singles

Singles points, used for determining seeding and the end-of-season bonus winners:

Points after SMYM7:
1. Dope (128 pts)
2. Tink (114 pts)
3. Darkrain (110 pts)
4. D-rephen (69 pts)
5: Forward (68 pts)
6. KishPrime (62 pts)
7. Trail (47 pts)
8. KishSquared (42 pts)
9. Iggy (37pts)
10. Eddie (32 pts)
11. JoeBushman111 (31 pts)
12. Vidjo (30pts)
13. Cunning (30pts)
14. B-ryan (27 pts)
15. Viperboy (23 pts)
16. Mathos (22 pts)
17. Jiano (29 pts)
18. Mikey L. (17 pts)
19. 1337 (16 pts)
20. Dante (13 pts)
21. AC (12 pts)
21. Dmac (12 pts)
23. Joel (11 pts)
24. Wuwu (10 pts)
24. Big C (10 pts)
24. Sliq (10 pts)
27. Phatgamer (9 pts)
28. Wife (8 pts)
28. DYC (8 pt)
28. Pyro (8 pts)
28. MB-Smash (8 pts)
32. Overswarm (7 pt)
33. Smeesh (6 pts)
33. Zec (6 pt)
35. Husband (5 pts)
35. Chad (5 pts)
35. Mendoza (5 pts)
35. Marth1 (5 pts)
35. Oro (5 pts)
35. Jesi (5 pts)
35. IhaveSpaceBalls (5 pts)
35. Watty (5 pts)
43. Kirkq (4pts)
44. Kel (3 pts)
44. AlphaZealot (3 pts)
46. Echo (2 pts)
46. Z (2 pts)
46. Rezo (2 pts)
46. Juke (2 pts)
46. AOB (2 pts)
46. Smeesh (2pts)
46. ZigZag (2 pts)
46. XtacyFalco (2 pts)
46. Z (2 pts)
46. Jv3x3 (2 pts)
46. ELC (2 pts)
46. Jazzness (2 pts)
46. C-Tip (2 pts)
46. Weston (2 pts)
46. Valban (2 pts)
46. Tre (2 pts)
46. Geoff (2 pts)
63. Dirj (1 pt)
63. Paradigm (1 pt)
63. Butters (1 pt)
63. Ruzo (1 pt)
63. Montross (1 pt)
63. Trevor (1 pt)
63. Trix (1 pt)
63. Hoefler (1 pt)
63. Crashman (1 pt)
63. Bobby from NC (1 pt)
63. NikePK (1 pt)

 

[KishSquared]

Teams

Team points, used for determining the best collective team performance and bonus winners: (NOT YET UPDATED AFTER SMYM7)

Team Points after SMYM7:
1. Tink and Iggy (165 pts)
2. Darkrain and Dope (113 pts)
3. KishPrime and KishSquared (83 pts)
4. Darkrain and Vidjo (75 pts)
5. Joe B and D-rephen (50 pts)
6. Cunning and Trail (48 pts)
7. Eddie and Big C (41 pts)
8. Joel and Mikey Lenetia (30 pts)
9. Jiano and Dante (25 pts)
9. Phat and DYC (25 pts)
11. Husband and Wife (23 pts)
12. Joe B and Mathos (21 pts)
13. Joel and Dope (20 pts)
14. Marth1 and Matt (15 pts)
15. Sliq and Juke (13 pts)
16. Echo and Smeesh (12 pts)
17. Mendoza and Captain Awesome (10 pts)
17. Viperboy and 1337 (10 pts)
17. Mikey Lenetia and Dope (10 pts)
17. Montross and Mikey Lenetia (10 pts)
17. 1337 and n00bLube (10 pts)
22. ELC and B-Ryan (9 pts)
23. MBSmash and Hood (8 pts)
23. 1337 and Kel (8 pts)
23. Dope and Watty (8 pts)
23. Pyro and Dmac (8 pts)
23. MBSmash and B-ryan (8 pts)
23. AC and Kirkq (8 pts)
29. AC and Joel (6 pts)
29. Jesi and Z (6 pts)
29. Jiano and Tapion (6 pts)
29. Viper and AC (6 pts)
29. Acro and **** (6 pts)
29. FFool and D-rephen (6 pts)
29. Big C and Big D (6 pts)
29. Joshu and Cunning (6 pts)
29. Weston and Geoff (6 pts)
29. Trail and Jazzness (6 pts)
29. XtacyFalco and Sliq (6 pts)
40. Overswarm and Crashman (5 pts)
40. AC and Kel (5 pts)
40. OldSoul and ZigZag (5 pts)
40. Phatgamer and Dmac (5 pts)
40. Zec and Wuwu (5 pts)
40. Nate and Chad (5 pts)
40. Viperboy and Forward (5 pts)
47. Dmac and Rezo (4 pts)
47. Big D and AZ (4 pts)
47. Paradigm and Soap (4 pts)
47. Dmac and DYC (4 pts)
47. ZigZag and NikePK (4 pts)
47. Butters and Jekyll (4 pts)
47. Joel and JV (4 pts)
47. KishSquared and Viperboy (4 pts)
47. Trevor and Hoefler (4 pt)
47. Tre and C-Tip (4 pts)
47. Stuntman and Blackstar (4 pts)

 

[KishSquared]

Crews

Final crews points (approximate values since official support for it ended)

CokeShip (105 pts)
Michigan (75 pts)
Bus City Extravaganza (30 pts)
SOK (10 pts)

 

[KishSquared]

Crew Rosters

Not sure what to put here, I couldn't keep crews rosters up to date. Ah well!

 

[Ignatius]

you reworked the points system for some reason?

 

[KishPrime]

Team points, used for determining the best collective team performance nd bonus winners:

nd...must be subliminal.

 

[KishSquared]

Very likely, but I changed it since not EVERYONE is a rabid Notre Dame fan. Just most people ^_^

Iggy - yeah, points were reworked. The gist of it is that it is MUCH harder to advance by one placing (say from 25th to 17th, or 3rd to 2nd) late in the tournament than it is at the beginning, so you should be rewarded more for late-tourney wins. Using the old system, Tim was rewarded for beating Tink in the same way that he was rewarded for beating Trix (no offense to Trix, of course ^_^). Also, the old system said that getting 2nd place was 90% as good as getting first place. I don't think anyone would agree with that statement. Finally, look at the brackets and see how many "good" people Tim beat as opposed to me, who got 5th. The old system says I get 60% of the points that Tim gets, but for what? I did NOT beat over half as many "good" people as Tim beat - more like 20%, and the new point system reflects that.

I can give plenty more details, but it'd be easier to discuss in person. If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask!

 

[Ignatius]

fair enough, I think my attached image was still too good though.

edit: its sorta like MLG anyway, you get kinda screwed over by missing one of them, heh. As in, harder to break into the pros/top in points in this case.

 

[KishSquared]

Technically, this sytem makes it EASIER to miss an event. By placing high, you give yourself breathing room. With the old system, Tim would only have a 1-pt lead on Tink, which will disappear EVEN IF Tink gets LAST place at COKE2 (since Tim's not going).

Tim has a 15 point lead on Tink right now, which means that if Tink doesn't get at least 4th place then he won't catch up. Of course, if Tim would only show up and take last place, Tink would actually need to get top three in order to pass him. Realistically, this is how it should be.

 

[BIG C]

I'm comin back and gettin top 10 at COK2 stupid marth its ok tho I won't be stubborn and stay peach this time.... the foxeth cometh and questions jeff

IF eddie doesnt show to COK2 and i dont get to team with him and i team with sum1 else... my and eddies points stay for the individual points???? or do our teams points just disappear cuz i can team with eddie for everything but COK prolly

Like if i move up from 9th to say 5th at COK if eddie and I team at SMYM I'll have those points but eddie wont??? so it'll put me down in placement for seeding???

and if i team with sum1 with 0 points that takes me down to ppl that have 6 pts that team being above me???

 

[KishSquared]

Ummm... I'm a bit confused by your questions, but hopefully I can clarify things. Individual team points are earned regardless of who your partner is. At each event, seeding is based on the sum of the points you and your current partner have accumulated throughout the season.

A team "unit" earns points at every event it is present at, and these points never go away this season. This is NOT used for seeding, but instead is what is used to determine the end-of-season bonus winners. The bonus will be present to the highest-ranking TEAM, not the highest-ranking INDIVIDUAL TEAM PLAYER; note the difference.

So Big C, if Eddie can't team with you at COKII and you team with someone else, you will not be seeded with zero points. Your team will be seeded based on your FRI2 points (plus your partner's FRI2 points if he was there). You will earn more individual team player points for your performance at COKII, but it won't affect your team unit with Eddie in any way, good or bad.

So, essentially, you're helping your team with Eddie out by showing up to COKII and earning more individual points. This will help your seeding at SMYM6, but it won't directly help your efforts in earning the Team Bonus.

Sorry for my long-windedness. Does that help, or did I just confuse you more? Also, wanna team at COKII if Prime bails? ^_^

 

[Ignatius]

Technically, this sytem makes it EASIER to miss an event. By placing high, you give yourself breathing room. With the old system, Tim would only have a 1-pt lead on Tink, which will disappear EVEN IF Tink gets LAST place at COKE2 (since Tim's not going).

Tim has a 15 point lead on Tink right now, which means that if Tink doesn't get at least 4th place then he won't catch up. Of course, if Tim would only show up and take last place, Tink would actually need to get top three in order to pass him. Realistically, this is how it should be.

Easier to miss an event that's not the first one? Like MLG? <.< heh.

 

[KishSquared]

Well, no. It doesn't matter what event you miss since the points don't degrade over time. Missing FRI2 is the same as missing COKE2, SMYM6, or FOB5.

MLG's system right now is terrible because pros are GUARANTEED points at every event they attend since they are guaranteed to be in the Pro Bracket. Meanwhile, highly-skilled "amateurs" (Azen, Chillin', Darkrain, Drephen...) take each other out before even getting to the pros, and thus get zero points. So as long as they continue attending events, pros will almost certainly remain pro since they consistently gain points even if they go two-and-out.

The Midwest Circuit doesn't have this problem due to the nature of the point system. Obviously, missing an event is a sure-fire way to endanger your ranking; that will be true with any point-based ranking system. If you want a non-point ranking system, check out the Smash Power Rankings, which is done by voting. Since there's no real unbiased method of doing that for the Midwest alone, this is the best we have.

Just look at it this way: attendance is a part of skill; you can't win if you don't show!

 

[Ignatius]

well, wouldn't missing the first event going into the second have more of an impact? or just how much is the pool seeding going to affect seeding into the bracket? Or is it just that the points from last time affect how easy/hard your pools will be?

The lack of understanding I have in that is probably the problem <.<

 

[KishSquared]

Exactly. Points are used to seed the RR pools. The RRs themselves are what seed the bracket. Having points will simply give you an easier RR pool, which will improve your bracket seeding.

So while having points is better for you, it's not the end-all determining factor of how well you'll do. Missing other Circuit events doesn't doom your performance, but it will really hurt your chances of earning that bonus.

Remember, the entire point of the Circuit is to encourage participation by offering incentives to consistently attend. Getting together and playing is the best way to improve the overall skill of the MW, so hopefully we won't get last place among US regions at the next FC/OC.

 

[Ignatius]

Alright then, sounds good. So much time to kill between classes in college ._.

 

[KishSquared]

Haha, so much time to kill when you sit in front of a computer all day. At least I'm making money doing it ^_^

I'm also subscribed to this thread, so I get an email everytime someone replies (hence my quick responses).

Iggy, PM me your email address for Purdue!

 

[BIG C]

omg iggy

yea jeff thanks that cleared everything up apparently u werent that confused with my questions

jeff i totally would have but i didnt realize he wasnt coming and i told BigD i would team with him so sorry sir... we coulda been an awesome team. but would have never thought of back to the future as a team name

 

[KishPrime]

We wouldn't have gotten last at FC among US crews if you didn't get sick.

Prime to the Hizzle

 

[KishSquared]

I'm guessing that the EC and S crews both had people missing that would have made their crew stronger. Considering it's a MW event, missing one person shouldn't make us get last

 

[KishPrime]

Let's see how quick your response is now Mr. I-know-who-would've-won-crew-battles-because-I-have-email-notification-on Smarty-Pants.

Prime to the Hizzle.

 

[The King]

Love your new catchphrase, Prime

King Out

 

[KishSquared]

Puffs are too weird.

 

[BIG C]

i agree jeff i agree

but im still sad that tim didn't come and rest the water out of my basement like i asked him to pictures of water are in the huge johnz thread THE FLOOD!!!!

 

[HoChiMinhTrail]

Prime to the Hizzle.

lOL i better hear you say that all the time now.

 

[BIG C]

prime to the hizzle FTW say it more

u should say it everytime u hit a rest or everytime u go for 1

 

[Joshu]

No sir, I don't like it.

 

[Hoefler]

I agree with Joshu. Enough of that saying, please. We don't have all this gas to be throwin around here hofer.

 

[KishSquared]

Updated fully!

 

[KishPrime]

Prime to the Hizzle

 

[BIG C]

squared should put BIG C down as a free agent cuz i do not feel like makin my own crew anymore cuz i never know if I'm actually gonna wanna play such a thing anyway

 

[KishPrime]

I think you should post everyone that attends, even if they have 0 points. It'll actually translate into a roster of Midwest smashers!

 

[Drephen]

so SOK stole our name

i think i might sue for copyright laws and such

 

[AlphaZealot]

AlphaZealot is a free agent, unless MB-Smash tells me otherwise.

 

[DrewB008]

i am a free agent as well now, you may know me as the bigd

 

[Ignatius]

I do have to say, being the rank1 team, and getting the pool1 and bracket we got was pretty crazy... but meh <.< I guess that's what we deserved? or something? <.<

 

[KishPrime]

It'll all balance out Ignat! Stop whining when you made the finals!

And you probably did deserve it too.

Points obviously take awhile to sort out, just look at MLG.

 

[mathos]

lol at Prime's sig. He's 1st in crews and didn't even attend! I know who's going atop the midwest power rankings.

 

[ike--Luigi]

well my point are going to rocket since im in the best crew ever... we have everything from bulbasaur to Missingo!!!