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SCSA West Coast Circuit 5 (1/30/10) Results on first page and THANKS FOR COMING
- Thread starter Charoo
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SNG
Smash Journeyman
oh yeah, pnoy was there too. and like 4 other UCSD smashers including myself
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Adam M!
Smash Lord
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- 1,462
i got dem gloves if n1ggas wanna call me out!
Ekoli
Smash Journeyman
hav u taken boxing classes b4? cuz i'd do it unless you've taken the classes, I'd get ****ed up XD
Powered-By-Sex
Smash Apprentice
I'm one of the UCSD smashers that came to the last SCSA.
Some food for thought.. you guys can bash if you want but..
We all want to represent SD in some way, but some of us have midterms and other stuff. But mainly I want to address something.
The last SCSA was by far one of the worst tournaments I've ever gone to. The power outage, the giant *** delay, hell... grand finals didn't even finish.. what's to say this won't happen again?
Travelling all the way to Irvine isn't that big of a deal, but in all seriousness, why is the venue fee so ridiculously expensive when it's subpar to the Winter Game Fest venue? I really doubt renting a venue for a day costs that much. If a minimum of 100 players come for both melee/brawl, you guys are pocketing $1000, which I doubt will all go towards the venue. Food for thought.. don't flame me too bad. Just being honest.
Some food for thought.. you guys can bash if you want but..
We all want to represent SD in some way, but some of us have midterms and other stuff. But mainly I want to address something.
The last SCSA was by far one of the worst tournaments I've ever gone to. The power outage, the giant *** delay, hell... grand finals didn't even finish.. what's to say this won't happen again?
Travelling all the way to Irvine isn't that big of a deal, but in all seriousness, why is the venue fee so ridiculously expensive when it's subpar to the Winter Game Fest venue? I really doubt renting a venue for a day costs that much. If a minimum of 100 players come for both melee/brawl, you guys are pocketing $1000, which I doubt will all go towards the venue. Food for thought.. don't flame me too bad. Just being honest.
Spazzums
Smash Apprentice
hey just wondering
do i get $4 off venue if i bring 2 cubes?? :3
do i get $4 off venue if i bring 2 cubes?? :3
Squidster
Smash Ace
Yup definitely some discrepancy going on here
Champ says venue is over $1000 and 10 dollar venue fee will barely cover it
Venue changes to something that is said to be $500 or less
Nezumi posts that $10 venue venue fee will barely cover it
Not saying Nezumi is lying... but if the cost gets cut in half... the price should be cut proportionally
Champ says venue is over $1000 and 10 dollar venue fee will barely cover it
Venue changes to something that is said to be $500 or less
Nezumi posts that $10 venue venue fee will barely cover it
Not saying Nezumi is lying... but if the cost gets cut in half... the price should be cut proportionally
TheLifeRuiner
Smash Lord
if you read nezumi's post, she says that the venue costs the same
SuperRad
Smash Master
im not buying that $10 venue fee is necessary anyways. whatever, i'll be bringing a wii so i can get $2 off =/
GSUB
Smash Lord
she says it cost the same BEFORE the change.
Whatever that means =/
Whatever that means =/
For people concerned about the math:
we paid $750 for our new venue, the same as the original cost of the burbank hotel. The hotel decided at the last minute they were going to charge us an additional $400 to hire security guards because the event catered to people under 18 years old. They also decided they'd kick us out at 9pm because of minors being present and curfews. I don't know about you guys, but coming up with a spare $1150 is not easy.... even coming up with $750 is not easy. So I understand you all assume we're trying to steal from the community like every other big tournament... but I don't know how to better assure you it's not the case.
if we were to make venue fee $5, we'd need about 150 people in attendance to break even with the cost of the venue. (and don't forget there are a bunch of discounts available that have to be subtracted, so more like 180+)
Since we cannot know for sure how many people will be attending, this is a gamble we've made, trying to get a better venue to suit the communities needs. Though we know $10 is a lot to ask, I know people who've spent much more for far worse venues. hell, I had to pay $75 to spectate at OC3 with ammonium on the shelves.....
I know times are hard, and we're sorry if any of you find this unreasonable, but the venue fee is going to be $10. If you all can come to an agreement about lowering the singles and doubles costs for melee, then we're fine with that as I explained in an earlier post but venue fee has to be what it is.
Sorry, and hope this has clarified some things for everyone.
we paid $750 for our new venue, the same as the original cost of the burbank hotel. The hotel decided at the last minute they were going to charge us an additional $400 to hire security guards because the event catered to people under 18 years old. They also decided they'd kick us out at 9pm because of minors being present and curfews. I don't know about you guys, but coming up with a spare $1150 is not easy.... even coming up with $750 is not easy. So I understand you all assume we're trying to steal from the community like every other big tournament... but I don't know how to better assure you it's not the case.
if we were to make venue fee $5, we'd need about 150 people in attendance to break even with the cost of the venue. (and don't forget there are a bunch of discounts available that have to be subtracted, so more like 180+)
Since we cannot know for sure how many people will be attending, this is a gamble we've made, trying to get a better venue to suit the communities needs. Though we know $10 is a lot to ask, I know people who've spent much more for far worse venues. hell, I had to pay $75 to spectate at OC3 with ammonium on the shelves.....
I know times are hard, and we're sorry if any of you find this unreasonable, but the venue fee is going to be $10. If you all can come to an agreement about lowering the singles and doubles costs for melee, then we're fine with that as I explained in an earlier post but venue fee has to be what it is.
Sorry, and hope this has clarified some things for everyone.
SNG
Smash Journeyman
why don't some of you just call the place and ask them how much the average venue costs for one day? and then you guys can make your call on the high venue fee.
Atlus8
Smash Master
hahaha! OC3 venue sucked d!ck! I'm fine with the venue fee!
The Greater Leon
Smash Hero
ive got a lot of respect for claire because she didnt take it personally
GSUB
Smash Lord
Squidster
Smash Ace
yeah i appreciate the honest answer, fair enough
will show up with cube and will be expecting a great tourney
will show up with cube and will be expecting a great tourney
ComboFest
Smash Lord
The first tourney I am going too.
Hope to have a good experience.
Hope to have a good experience.
Kouryuu
Smash Champion
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People should really stop *****ing about the venue fee. It is what it is, and it's not going to change. It's already said that the money is going be used to pay off the venue. And if people still think it's expensive, then why not contribute a bring a full set up? Otherwise, shut the **** up and pay the full venue like everyone else.
Thanks for being upfront and honest Clair. Really appreciate the great venue.
The tourney is gonna ****.
Edit: Adam, I'll MM your Marth for 5$.
Thanks for being upfront and honest Clair. Really appreciate the great venue.
The tourney is gonna ****.
Edit: Adam, I'll MM your Marth for 5$.
Alex19
Smash Journeyman
- Joined
- May 11, 2007
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- 483
****...............
i miss the old days where we had 5v5 crew battles. It was so much pride and every1 go crazy for stuff. Maybe I'll make it an event for MJ2
so yeah, I apologize for all the fuzz and I hope people can still make it. It's going to be fun and Sheridan and I will make sure it's gonna be good
so yeah, I apologize for all the fuzz and I hope people can still make it. It's going to be fun and Sheridan and I will make sure it's gonna be good
festizzio
Smash Champion
Irvine? Looks like SCSA 6 will have to be my first one 
TheLifeRuiner
Smash Lord
noooooooo festizziooooooo
but ssx3!! ssx3!!!!!!
but ssx3!! ssx3!!!!!!
Little England
Smash Master
Nobody is really complaining anymore. You're just adding fuel to the fire.
Adam M!
Smash Lord
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nah, just been working out a lot. in a couple weeks i'll have some headgear tho, which will be safe whether i eff you up or not =P.
come on michael why dont you come get at my fox too =)
or mm my falco for $3 (less price cuz you'll win, but i really like that matchup)
i don't think i mentioned this but i will only do mms according to the following rules:
1. pound 4 ruleset
OR
2. neutrals only (stage striking)
im never playing on dumb stages like corneria/brinstar/rainbow cruise/poke floats again.
as long as lucky/lovage/macd/kouryuu/jdm/squidster/s2j/stabbed agree with that then it's all good!
also champ, im not entering anything so i won't have to pay venue, right? but i will be bringing a setup just so my mms don't slow down the tourny =P
pockyD
Smash Legend
because "random" is ****ing stupid
pockyD
Smash Legend
basically, when game 1 is "randomly" selected, the random result can have a drastic effect
just for the sake of explanation, consider how yoshi's story and dreamland are typically complete opposites playstyle-wise; however, they are both equally likely to come up on random... now why should effectively the roll of a dice have a chance to determine the outcome of a close set?
just for the sake of explanation, consider how yoshi's story and dreamland are typically complete opposites playstyle-wise; however, they are both equally likely to come up on random... now why should effectively the roll of a dice have a chance to determine the outcome of a close set?
GSUB
Smash Lord
It's in place because we all know how important it is to win that first game (because then they counter-pick, then you counter-pick, and then win).
So stage-striking starts the first round on THE MOST EVEN STAGE for the two of you (on a stage that you are both either okay with or don't hate).
Which is usually why it ends up on Battlefield. (ex. Marth vs Falcon: Marth takes off FD, Falcon takes off Yoshi's, Marth takes off Dreamland, Falcon takes off FoD: Left with Battlefield)
So stage-striking starts the first round on THE MOST EVEN STAGE for the two of you (on a stage that you are both either okay with or don't hate).
Which is usually why it ends up on Battlefield. (ex. Marth vs Falcon: Marth takes off FD, Falcon takes off Yoshi's, Marth takes off Dreamland, Falcon takes off FoD: Left with Battlefield)
also eliminates the "randomness" factor
because the outcome is determined by the end (people's counterpicks, etc) and not the first stage. i can see from anthony's post how you can just get gayed by the random stage after resetting. its nice getting everyones views of it
edit: my comment is directed at pocky
edit: my comment is directed at pocky
pockyD
Smash Legend
the CP system used for games 2 and 3 is geared towards providing the CP-er with an advantage - game 1 is the only game where "fair" is a goal, I don't know the actual numbers so I'm making these up, but I'm guessing that probably 95% of the time, whoever wins game 1 wins the set and at least 70-80% of the time, the winner of a 2-1 set was the player who won game 1
pockyD
Smash Legend
i don't see why that's a problem specific to this system (or even a problem at all)
stage striking isn't perfect; it's just better than the random system
stage striking isn't perfect; it's just better than the random system
The Greater Leon
Smash Hero
the game would suck if that were the case lol