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Scientists have created artificial human sperm

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I got a feeling that my crazy *** theory that lesbians will conquer the world and the male population will become extinct or at severely low numbers isn't so crazy after all. I hope that doesn't become a reality.

But to be serious now, this is a somewhat major step. If the technique is perfected and actual children can be conceived by this, then this could help infertile men and it can teach us about infertility.
 

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Dear god! What has science done?!

Memes aside theirs nothing to say. It could repopulate the world if anything were to happen or it'd just create some horrible cyborg-like monster. Either way I welcome it.
 

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It isn't artificial persay if it's made using other cells. (Just like cloning isn't truly artificial because it's still uses cells to generate the clone.) Unnatural, yes, but not synthesized.
 

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I got a feeling that my crazy *** theory that lesbians will conquer the world and the male population will become extinct or at severely low numbers isn't so crazy after all. I hope that doesn't become a reality.
This man knows his numbers.

Fiction = Science.

Its math.
 

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errm thats cool and all but i think they are going a bit overboard
 

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How are they going overboard? I think it's a great idea. Mainly for this reason:
It is hoped the technique could eventually allow infertile men to become fathers.
Yes it's the "noble" excuse they're using to drive their experiments forward but hey!
 

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I got a feeling that my crazy *** theory that lesbians will conquer the world and the male population will become extinct or at severely low numbers isn't so crazy after all. I hope that doesn't become a reality.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4225769

It's actually not a crazy *** theory. It's actually somewhat possible (though, due to the Y chromosome creating backups of it's most important genes it certainly isn't happening any time soon.)

And now, we have a backup. In case the Y chromosome DOES disappear, we have another way to carry on the human race.
 

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This is pretty **** awesome.

I don't see any problem with this; it is legitimately important research and can help a great many infertile men have children simply by biopsying their (somatic) cells.

Here's the full paper if anybody wants to read it:
http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1089/scd.2009.0063?cookieSet=1

This has already been done in mice to successfully produce offspring.

I'm not sure if it would work with females because there are differences in epigenetic imprinting between male X and female X chromosomes, among other things. I don't know enough to say for sure.

Regardless, this is groundbreaking. If we can now develop human sperm cells from hESCs, then other tissues (muscle, neurons, blood, etc) are surely on the horizon.
 

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I'm going to go back and watch Star Wars: Attack of the Clones.
 

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gold shadow you do put the reasonable science touch to things

but really i think there is enough sperm floating around in this world...

but i guess if it is for infertile men. then i might be ok. man i hope my stuff works i don't want so creepy science baby.
 

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I'm rather torn about it; yes it's a positive and helpful thing for men who cannot have their own, but it really just overlooks adoption. I know that many people want their own child, but you can't ignore the kids out there who have no families, many since birth. To me, it's just an excuse to look over that option.

Besides, I find it highly creepy. Once we get artificial sperm and egg, the future generations may just become test tube babies, unnatural. And in all honestly, I don't want to ever see that day.
 

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lol @ "creepy science baby". I don't get what everyone thinks is so "creepy".

All it's doing is taking some of a man's cells and make sperm cells out of them, just like the ones his body makes naturally. I think this is on the same plane, ethically speaking, as in vitro fertilization. It gives people the chance to conceive who cannot do so normally.

It's not like you'd be making sperm from scratch and synthesizing artificial people or something.
 

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Well i'm not too sure about cyborg monsters or lesbians, but this sure sounds like a break through to me. From what I understand researchers have been attempting to do this for years. And while I do have a feeling it could cause a lot of political football in the near future, if it pans out it could also benefit a lot of people.
 

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wow, science never ceases to amaze me. O:

This is pretty awesome, but I donno. What happens to orphans? Aren't they usually adopted because their parents can't have kids on their own?
 

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This is pretty awesome, but I donno. What happens to orphans? Aren't they usually adopted because their parents can't have kids on their own?
Not all of them get adopted, that's for sure. Once they hit thirteen, it's a very low chance they get adopted. As uncommon as adoption is anyway, people usually only go for the babies...
 

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Wow males are screwed. The only reason they're needed on this planet has been taken away.
 

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Besides, I find it highly creepy. Once we get artificial sperm and egg, the future generations may just become test tube babies, unnatural. And in all honestly, I don't want to ever see that day.
I have faith that will never happen for the simple fact that humans like having sex.
 

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You cant create sperm from female cells, technically speaking.

So everyone that thinks that is ignorant about the state of things. Just think about it, this is a way to force a cell to undergo meiosis eventually creating a haploid gamete. The only way to create a sperm cell using female genetic information would be unethical at this point in time (due to the stigma genetic engineering [if you could call it that in its current state] has.)

That article was terrible btw.
 

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You cant create sperm from female cells, technically speaking.

So everyone that thinks that is ignorant about the state of things. Just think about it, this is a way to force a cell to undergo meiosis eventually creating a haploid gamete. The only way to create a sperm cell using female genetic information would be unethical at this point in time (due to the stigma genetic engineering [if you could call it that in its current state] has.)
I don't follow what you're saying.

You can create sperm from female cells. Keep in mind that these are embryonic stem cells; they are pluripotent, meaning they can differentiate into any of the three germ layers. The reproductive system is formed by mesoderm created from these pluripotent hESCs, and gametes are formed by meiosis from cells in the sexual organs.

Now, hESCs can differentiate into the same things regardless of whether they come from a male or female (although this is not to say they are indistinguishable. Male and female hESCs do have differences in surface expressed proteins). So theoretically, any hESC (male or female) has the potential to differentiate into sperm, just like hESCs from both males and females can differentiate into red blood cells. An embryonic stem cell is an embryonic stem cell, irrespective of whether it is XY or XX.

In a state of nature (in vivo) females and XX cells cannot produce sperm because there are genes on the Y chromosome required for sperm production (http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition=ychromosomeinfertility). But I don't see why XX cells couldn't be chemically induced to produce sperm; after all, that is exactly what they did with XY cells in this experiment. Granted, it might be more difficult to do this with XX cells; in fact, this article says that when attempted with XX cells, they only produced "early stage sperm that did not progress any farther." (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/156730.php)
This Time Magazine article says the same thing, that it didn't progress past the spermatogonium stage (http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1909164,00.html)

But there are some scientists who've allegedly created sperm and eggs from male cells (http://www.bioedonline.org/news/news.cfm?art=2624) and sperm cells from female cells (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sciencea...6/Sperm-cells-created-from-female-embryo.html), so we have yet to see how this will all pan out.

Whether or not this can all be used to create viable embryos and people, on the other hand, is still up for grabs.
 

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Amazing discussion...

While this doesnt worry me,it yields concern for the future of biological and medical science.

Also, I'm suprised an ethical or moral discussion wasn't started.
 

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Im pretty sure people are gonna stick to the old fashioned way of fertilisation....fun for all involved and gets the job done.

Down with this sort of thing!
 

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I have a feeling artificial sperm may cause problems with the baby, like strange alterations in appearance. But who knows? Honestly, I think this is going a bit too far in the wrong direction.
 

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This has been established years ago. Sperm can be generated from bone marrow.

Men have always been obsolete earthily.
 

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So... I believe that lesbians should be legally able to marry, just from this new development. Anyone with me?

Or maybe I got the wrong idea from all this. *shrugs* Oh well. I've always known that us men were gonna be obsolete one day anyway.
 
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