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That doesn't necessarily mean he isn't playable, but at this point in development Sakurai has decided on whatever role Toad has, and isn't going to change it now. If he knew he wanted Toad to be playable, and he used the standard Toad colouring for the playable Toad, it's unlikely (though not impossible) he'd go with that same colouring for the one Peach uses.
IF he become's playable, though, he'd probably use an all blue palette, a la Super Mario Bros 2/Super Mario 3D World.
 

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It was also Inafune's idea/suggestion to include Bad Box Art Mega Man in Street Fighter X Tekken.
And then everyone bashed Trollno for it. :p Well...he did muck up one of the best possible crossovers in fighting game history, so I guess he deserves it. :p

Edit: Not to mention it's his fault that my favorite franchise is Dead. :c

My sister does actually.
I would talk some sense into her...but I can't leave my cave. :p
 

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I'm so excited for tomorrow! I'm leaving my computer on the site when I go to bed, so when I wake up, I can just refresh the page and BAM! Challenger Approaching... hopefully.
 

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I honestly think this "TOAD COULD BE SWITCHED OUT OF PEACH'S MOVESET, GUIZ" thing is pretty desperate. Peach's Toad-move-thing is an iconic move, and I doubt Sakurai is going to change it. It's better to cope with the fact that Toad probably won't be playable now than when he isn't actually playable when the game releases.

inb4 Sakurai pulls a Toon Link.
 

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I'm so excited for tomorrow! I'm leaving my computer on the site when I go to bed, so when I wake up, I can just refresh the page and BAM! Challenger Approaching... hopefully.
Hype for the veteran and the hype of having to wait ONE MORE DAY for X and Y...I'm going to drown in my hype...DROWN IN IT! :p
 

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The roster gets finalized in planning before it gets finalized in programming, something as minor as Snake's C4 aesthetic could really be changed at many points during development, but something like making Toad playable would be decided relatively towards the beginning, and then characters would get programmed around that. So, Toad would likely be decided in pre-production, before development of the characters even starts, which makes replacing him in Peach's B move at this point fairly unlikely.

That doesn't necessarily mean he isn't playable, but at this point in development Sakurai has decided on whatever role Toad has, and isn't going to change it now. If he knew he wanted Toad to be playable, and he used the standard Toad colouring for the playable Toad, it's unlikely (though not impossible) he'd go with that same colouring for the one Peach uses.
I really think Peach's Toad could be aesthetically refreshed... all Sakurai's team has to do is recolor Peach's Toad into Toadsworth. It's minor... even the hackers could do it.

 

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Haven't made a roster in a while, might as well have made one before we get our all-expected Pokemon Veteran tomorrow. :p
This was my exact roster not too long ago. But that was when I still had hope for Toad and had him where you have Bowser Jr. I also rounded it out to 49 with Isaac. It's a very satisfying lineup. But like TumblrFamous said, I also expect some crazy addition that most of us never saw coming in place of one of the chatacters you ( and I) have on there. Very nice.
 

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This is the beta version of Snake's Down+Smash move...



The bomb looks different in the final product. Go ahead and play Brawl.. pause the game and zoom to the bomb, it looks different. Sakurai refreshed the entire model of an attack... so what makes you think Sakurai won't do it again? Toad could be replaced with Toadsworth as a human shield so Toad could be playable.
I still wouldn't count on it. There is really no reason for Sakurai to hardly even consider Toad and then change his mind like that in development where again, the roster is finalized.
 

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Hype for the veteran and the hype of having to wait ONE MORE DAY for X and Y...I'm going to drown in my hype...DROWN IN IT! :p
Love the reference, points for my favorite Spongebob episode. But seriously, we have the veteran, the new Pokemon game, this is incredible. I knew October was gonna be a great month, but still.
 

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IF he become's playable, though, he'd probably use an all blue palette, a la Super Mario Bros 2/Super Mario 3D World.
At this point, yeah, if we were to get him it'd likely be his blue appearance because we've already seen Toad's standard colour scheme in a non-playable role, but Sakurai does tend to use the most iconic appearance/colour scheme for characters, and standard Toad is just so much more well-known, so I'd still argue that there's a bigger chance of him not being playable than in his blue appearance.

I really think Peach's Toad could be aesthetically refreshed... all Sakurai's team has to do is recolor Peach's Toad into Toadsworth. It's minor... even the hackers could do it.

I'm not saying he couldn't be altered, I'm saying Sakurai already knows how he wants to implement standard Toad's colours, and it's as part of Peach's moveset, so it won't be altered. If Toad is playable he's playable, if he's not he's not, at this point that's not going to change.
 

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The roster is finalized sure. But it is not "wasted" time to program the exact same moveset from Brawl and makes changes. Why would he go out of his way to tell us her moves could change? If its something as small as damages, we already assuumed that. He's making those "changes" to mostly everybody.

I'm not saying its a hint at all. But people should be able to predict Toad without people acting like they have the "knowledge" to tear down supporter opinions.
When did Sakurai say Peach's moves could change, was it after she was revealed? and I doubt Sakurai's mind would be 50/50 on a such an easily good idea for a character.

inb4 Sakurai pulls a Toon Link.
I think the situation of Toon Link & Toad are 2 entirely different things.
 

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Love the reference, points for my favorite Spongebob episode. But seriously, we have the veteran, the new Pokemon game, this is incredible. I knew October was gonna be a great month, but still.
I love that episode too, one of the first ones I ever saw to be in fact, I think it was my second after "Jellyfishing". Anyways yes, the hype is phenomenal at this point! And even if it is Mewtwo that gets revealed and makes my year...I probably won't be around much to celebrate it since I've got some Pokemon to play. :p

PS: Who else is climbing on Team Delphox? It's the freaking Black Mage of Pokemon! :p
 

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I really think Peach's Toad could be aesthetically refreshed... all Sakurai's team has to do is recolor Peach's Toad into Toadsworth. It's minor... even the hackers could do it.

That moustache makes me chuckle. It makes me think what if in Injustice, Batman pulled out Alfred and used him as a shield.
 

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When did Sakurai say Peach's moves could change, was it after she was revealed?
I believe he referred to all characters in general (hopefully includes Mario, and hopefully they get rid of FLUDD), but the fact that he stated it on one of Peach's pics might infer that Peach might get a change, along other characters.

Not saying that's gonna be the case, but that's something to be considered.
 

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This isn't about being a "hardcore Toad fan", this is about absolutes. Saying he is deconfirmed is an absolute. He is not deconfirmed. Unlikely? Thats up to you. Deconfirmed? That's not an opinion, its a fact that can only be stated when the game releases.

Just because he's a move he's deconfirmed? No. Not at all. You can SAY you think he's unlikely, but anyone who has an open mind will simply say he isn't deconfirmed. Because that's actually a fact.
Thank you so much. This is exactly what I hate about the argument. It isn't objective fact; however, it is treated as such. I am not even that big of a Toad supporter. I just hate the picture "evidence" perspective. Dealing in absolutes is ridiculous.
 

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PS: Who else is climbing on Team Delphox? It's the freaking Black Mage of Pokemon! :p
I was about to go delphox, but that chestnaut man... its so awesome so I decided it would be fair to go with my first grass type starter this time around, since I keep picking fire every gen, (except for oshawott and piplup, cyndaquil barely beat chika in gen II).
 

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Alfred as a shield? He'd send Alfred out there and let him kick Superman's ***...


You don't mess with the butler...
No. You're right. Alfred deserves his own roster spot. He could definitely kick some ass. Even more reason for me to hold out hope for Toad.
 

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Well, night, everyone. In the morning when I get ready for school, I will either be really excited to see a new character, or really disappointed to see another boring picture showing something unchanged from Brawl. Haha. Here's hoping for something amazing. For the last time before the Reveal, go
#TeamPokémonTrainer!
 

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When did Sakurai say Peach's moves could change, was it after she was revealed? and I doubt Sakurai's mind would be 50/50 on a such an easily good idea for a character.



I think the situation of Toon Link & Toad are 2 entirely different things.
No, it is the same damn thing!


This is Toon Link from Spirit Tracks.


This is Toon Link from The Wind Waker.



Which Toon Link is playable?

Which one is Peach's Toad and which one is the playable Toad?



 

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WHO WILL BE THE ONE?


THE CURRENT BIDS:

1. MEWTWO (28 votes)
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- SchAlternate
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- Hotfeet444
- Espio264
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- TumblrFamous
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- lonekonwolf
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- Chandelure
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6. OTHER (6 votes)
- OcarinaofDoom - Goomy
- DaUsername - Magikarp
- DukeofShorts - Charizard
- Xiivi - Team Rocket
- Mabataki - Greninja
- Aerodrome - Zelda

7. NONE (2 votes)
- Mitsuo
- Lasifer

#. UNDECIDED (3 people)
- Rebellious Treecko - For everyone.
- 8-peacock-8 - For Red using Mewtwo, Lucario and Charizard.
- SmasherMaster - Red or Lucario or Mewtwo or Jigglypuff or Blaziken.

Who will win ladies and gentlemen, put your bid for which Pokemon will be reveled this week.

Special Thanks:
To Johnknight1 for creating the idea.
To MorbidAltruism for supporting and getting the list right. Jigglypuff will win!
To Onyx Oblivian for the image and title of this game.

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Why is everyone so sure that a character will be revealed tomorrow of all days? I don't get it. Everyone seems pretty positive we'll get a character tomorrow, and everyone seems pretty sure it's going to be a Pokemon character.
 

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Why is everyone so sure that a character will be revealed tomorrow of all days? I don't get it. Everyone seems pretty positive we'll get a character tomorrow, and everyone seems pretty sure it's going to be a Pokemon character.

 

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Delphox is really cool, but I'll be climbing on Team Greninja, the Ninja class of Pokemon!
I like the theme of the starters. A mage, a knight and a ninja. I was going Fennekin but I'll probably roll with Froakie, I've had a thing for water starters for awhile now.
 

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No, it is the same damn thing!


This is Toon Link from Spirit Tracks.


This is Toon Link from The Wind Waker.





Which Toon Link is playable?

Which one is Peach's Toad and which one is the playable Toad?



The one on the right is Peach's Toad. He's already halfway up her dress. The one on the left is playable Toad. Though, the way he's running, he looks like a Luigi clone.
 

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I'm not changing teams (#MewtwoHasYOLOswag :troll: ) but...


...there's no Team Mudkip yet...
 

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Froakie for life!
He's the only starter that truly excites me. The other ones are very "meh" to me.
I don't know...Fennekin is practically the only family of fire type starters I actually like as of now. Used to like Charmander, don't care for it now, don't care for Cyndaquil, hate Torchic, hate Chimchar, and definitely hate Tepig. Fennekin...I like everything about it...the refreshing new type, the unique style it was designed in, and especially the fact that it was unexpected...I never saw Fennekin evolving into Delphox...but now that that's the way it is...I love it, it's freaking amazing and it's by far my favorite fire starter. I like Chespin and Froakie as well, but Fennekin just beats them for me.
 

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I like the theme of the starters. A mage, a knight and a ninja. I was going Fennekin but I'll probably roll with Froakie, I've had a thing for water starters for awhile now.
Same here, I love the RPG theme they're going for, probably my favorite set of starters in a while. Froakie is my favorite of them though, I always did like the rogues.
 

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I like the theme of the starters. A mage, a knight and a ninja. I was going Fennekin but I'll probably roll with Froakie, I've had a thing for water starters for awhile now.
I always play stealth/rogue/thief in any RPG. So I am going with Froakie. I usually pick the fire type though. This time is an exception because I can just pick Charizard.
 

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I don't know...Fennekin is practically the only family of fire types I actually like as of now. Used to like Charmander, don't care for it now, don't care for Cyndaquil, hate Torchic, hate Chimchar, and definitely hate Tepig. Fennekin...I like everything about it...the refreshing new type, the unique style it was designed in, and especially the fact that it was unexpected...I never saw Fennekin evolving into Delphox...but now that that's the way it is...I love it, it's freaking amazing and it's by far my favorite fire starter. I like Chespin and Froakie as well, but Fennekin just beats them for me.
All of the Gen 6 starters are better than Gen 5's awful starters, at least.
 

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If they were released tomorrow, yeah, I'd be certain of a reveal, but I suppose a character being revealed close to the launch date of X/Y makes sense.
Well, they did that with Pikmin 3, I believe. It was being released on Saturday, so they revealed Olimar on Friday. Right?
 
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