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Reznor said:
Protoman > Zero
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I bet ya he'll be an assist trophy, same with roll.

imo I like Zero better, dem lightning loops mann....

@saturn i agree, I think we'll get 3 DK reps. 4 is little much, which is why I'm starting to get the feeling that there might not be a new mario PC, it seems to me sakurai might go with new franchies like xenoblade, golden sun etc.
 
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TumblrFamous said:
Eh. You see that is the thing. When it comes to Mario characters, I think it should be characters that serve importance to the series. Toad has really just been stuck in the void between side player and supporting character. Bowser Jr. has grown from what was once Bowser's son into the second-in-command of the Koopa Army. I mean, he was even confirmed to be above rank of the Koopa Kids by Miyamoto himself. He has become the second important villain in the game. I say that other than the four veterans, he's the next importance. Sure, Toad has been around longer and stayed relevant, but Bowser Jr. moved up the ranks of popular Nintendo characters. Again, though, just my opinion.
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I understand that it's your opinion.

The big thing that I have to say about that is that Sakurai tends to go for protagonists before antagonists (Luigi before Bowser, Falco before Wolf, Zelda before Ganondorf in priority), which helps Toad and hurts Bowser Jr. (although I could potentially see both getting in)
 
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I really don't see anybody else, but Zero being the Mega Man Assist Trophy. He's always been the Assist Trophy on all my lists.
 
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Bajef8 said:
Please stop before another Toad debate erupts. The hardcore Toad fans aren't gonna give in until the game has been released and every character has been unlocked. Even though the past shows us that Toad being revealed as a move means he's deconfirmed. The exact same thing happened pre-Brawl. Toad was shown as a move, Toad fans said noooo that doesn't matter. Sorry, he ain't in.
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That's different. Sakurai never gave Toad fans some hope pre-Brawl... Sakurai never said he was changing Peach's moveset in Brawl... but he did say he is changing Peach's moveset in SSB4...

Sakurai most likely read Toad detractors' arguments... that Toad cannot be playable if he is part of Peach's moveset... that Peach's moveset has to be changed in order for Toad to be playable... and now Sakurai himself is saying he is changing Peach's moveset in SSB4.
 
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Zero would be freaking awesome to play as, and he could translate very well in Smash, but he ain't happening.

After all, not every single character that has a viable moveset can get in.
 
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SaturnGamer64 said:
Yeh, before he officially programmed it.
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"Pic of the day. Peach joins the battle! We've added 10 new pictures of her on the website, but keep in mind that the game is still in development. Her moves may be refreshed by the time the games are released."

What you saw in Peach's pictures on the day of her reveal may not even be finalized in the game.
 
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Arcadenik said:
"Pic of the day. Peach joins the battle! We've added 10 new pictures of her on the website, but keep in mind that the game is still in development. Her moves may be refreshed by the time the games are released."

What you saw in Peach's pictures on the day of her reveal may not even be finalized in the game.
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I'd imagine he means stat changes like damage and such.
 
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Zero2570 said:
LOL thanks for the laugh. Anyways I agree, but I just like Zero better cause he's got a badass name, and dat Z- saber. so i'm a bit biased :p
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it's cool man i'm biased towards Protoman because I have only played the classic Megaman games and 1 Zero game that was pretty fun
also I like Protoman's backstory more
 
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Arcadenik said:
"Pic of the day. Peach joins the battle! We've added 10 new pictures of her on the website, but keep in mind that the game is still in development. Her moves may be refreshed by the time the games are released."

What you saw in Peach's pictures on the day of her reveal may not even be finalized in the game.
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Why would Sakurai would waste his time programming an entire model of an attack to change his mind and add a character he programmed to be a human sheild, witch by the way Sakurai finalizes the roster ahead of time. Except during Brawl where at the last minute he added one of the most iconic and requested characters: Sonic The Hedgehog.
 
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Zero2570 said:
LOL thanks for the laugh. Anyways I agree, but I just like Zero better cause he's got a badass name, and dat Z- saber. so i'm a bit biased :p
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Perfect reason to be biased he's badass, besides zero would probably take megamans spot in smash anyway just like he did in mvc3. :troll:
 
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Gune said:
Perfect reason to be biased he's badass, besides zero would probably take megamans spot in smash anyway just like he did in mvc3.
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Lol that ain't happening bro. Sakurai loves the iconic classic characters and so do I, even tho zero is badass capcom wouldn't be that stupid would they?

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I hope I never see this "megaman" again....


pfft didn't see the trollface. oh well
 
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SaturnGamer64 said:
Why would Sakurai would waste his time programming an entire model of an attack to change his mind and add a character he programmed to be a human sheild, witch by the way Sakurai finalizes the roster ahead of time. Except during Brawl where at the last minute he added one of the most iconic and requested characters: Sonic The Hedgehog.
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The roster is finalized sure. But it is not "wasted" time to program the exact same moveset from Brawl and makes changes. Why would he go out of his way to tell us her moves could change? If its something as small as damages, we already assuumed that. He's making those "changes" to mostly everybody.

I'm not saying its a hint at all. But people should be able to predict Toad without people acting like they have the "knowledge" to tear down supporter opinions.
 
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SaturnGamer64 said:
Why would Sakurai would waste his time programming an entire model of an attack to change his mind and add a character he programmed to be a human sheild, witch by the way Sakurai finalizes the roster ahead of time. Except during Brawl where at the last minute he added one of the most iconic and requested characters: Sonic The Hedgehog.
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This is the beta version of Snake's Down+Smash move...



The bomb looks different in the final product. Go ahead and play Brawl.. pause the game and zoom to the bomb, it looks different. Sakurai refreshed the entire model of an attack... so what makes you think Sakurai won't do it again? Toad could be replaced with Toadsworth as a human shield so Toad could be playable.
 
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Arcadenik said:
This is the beta version of Snake's Down+Smash move...



The bomb looks different in the final product. Go ahead and play Brawl.. pause the game and zoom to the bomb, it looks different. Sakurai refreshed the entire model of an attack... so what makes you think Sakurai won't do it again? Toad could be replaced with Toadsworth as a human shield so Toad could be playable.
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It would feel weird for Peach to use Toadsworth as a shield to block Toad's attacks, though.

Then again, we can have Mario/Link beat up Peach/Zelda already anyway, so who cares, really.
 
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Hotfeet444 said:

Haven't made a roster in a while, might as well have made one before we get our all-expected Pokemon Veteran tomorrow. :p
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I can't find a single thing wrong about this roster. Perfect to the last detail.

However, I just expect one character that will be "shocking", other than WFT. But I never want to try and speculate on that, so I'll take this. Definitely would love this roster.
 
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Zero2570 said:
Anyway i'm rambling, Don't care about "destiny" I never want to see that "megaman" abomination again.
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Really, it's pretty awesome that Capcom made a reference to the hideous box art of the original game.

What makes people upset about it, though, is the wrong timing of his inclusion (when Capcom was beginning to ignore Mega Man after Inafune left)
 
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The roster gets finalized in planning before it gets finalized in programming, something as minor as Snake's C4 aesthetic could really be changed at many points during development, but something like making Toad playable would be decided relatively towards the beginning, and then characters would get programmed around that. So, Toad would likely be decided in pre-production, before development of the characters even starts, which makes replacing him in Peach's B move at this point fairly unlikely.

That doesn't necessarily mean he isn't playable, but at this point in development Sakurai has decided on whatever role Toad has, and isn't going to change it now. If he knew he wanted Toad to be playable, and he used the standard Toad colouring for the playable Toad, it's unlikely (though not impossible) he'd go with that same colouring for the one Peach uses.
 
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SchAlternate said:
Really, it's pretty awesome that Capcom made a reference to the hideous box art of the original game.

What makes people upset about it, though, is the wrong timing of his inclusion (when Capcom was beginning to ignore Mega Man after Inafune left)
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It was also Inafune's idea/suggestion to include Bad Box Art Mega Man in Street Fighter X Tekken.
 
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