Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[MargnetMan23]

Alright, we'll settle for it just being Lucas for now, but if there's room we'll come back to debating Ninten and Porky?
.... Time for Fire Emblem:

Ike and Robin =P

 

[Pacack]

Alright, we'll settle for it just being Lucas for now, but if there's room we'll come back to debating Ninten and Porky?
.... Time for Fire Emblem:

Ike and.......Roy. I can't decide, so the easier one to develop gets my vote. I like Chrom, too, though. Please don't kill me.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

but if there's room we'll come back to debating Ninten and Porky?

Let's actually do that. Although I vouch for just Ness & Lucas (sometimes), I think Ninten needs more consideration than he's given considering he's given none at all. I think he's a good and sensible addition.

 

[Seraphim.]

Roy and Ike for me.

 

[Johnknight1]

The funny thing about this though, is that the Mewtwo in the Genesect movie is a wild Pokemon, and yet it could still mega evolve.

Pokémon Movie Logic: Where Ash is a Pokémon and Mewtwo is a Trainer.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Ike and.......Roy. I can't decide, so the easier one to develop gets my vote. I like Chrom, too, though. Please don't kill me.

Easier to develop in a convenient way or easier to develop in a ridiculously lazy way. I always thought Chrom is THE laziest addition you could likely make to smash. "Uhhh, so which FE rep should we add? Oh, how bout that heavier Marth, he's teh most recent!" Well, that didn't take long.

PRINT DAT ****!!!

 

[Johnknight1]

.... Time for Fire Emblem:

Spoiler

Lucina, Anna, and that white haired dude won't be considered, let alone be playable. If you take off the fanboyism glasses, that much is evident.

Lyn could show up, but that's doubtful, although she could be great.

Chrom... he's generic and a boring character.
Ike is a beast, and if you don't want Ike back, you should feel lucky I'm not a mod because I would perma-ban you.
Roy... he's got a lot to work with, and is pretty freaking popular.

So my choices would be Ike and Roy I guess. If Lyn was more viable a choice, I'd pick her over Roy.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Darth Vader, meh.
Now I'm thinking of a Star Wars x Metroid crossover.

Where Samus outright slaughters Boba Fett like in the death battle, along with probably every other bounty hunter in the Star Wars universe, thus eliminating the competition for bounties?

While Ridley becomes the General Grievous of the series or something, etc.

The funny thing about this though, is that the Mewtwo in the Genesect movie is a wild Pokemon, and yet it could still mega evolve.

Ya know I totally forgot about that... What's the reason then for the Mewtwo in Origins not megavolving? Probably just due to being more savage like its game counterpart I guess. Whatever the reason, was convenient for the Charizard.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Pokémon Movie Logic: Where Ash is a Pokémon and Mewtwo is a Trainer.

In Soviet Russia, Pokemon trains you!

 

[Mega Bidoof]

You just called Sheik male? Oh you.

I know sheik is just zelda in a costume, disguised as a guy but I don't know how to refer to sheik
Sheik is technically female, but sheik is a male diguise

 

[TheDivineDeity]

Let's actually do that. Although I vouch for just Ness & Lucas (sometimes), I think Ninten needs more consideration than he's given considering he's given none at all. I think he's a good and sensible addition.

I just don't see why Ninten should be added in the first place - all he is is a clone/semi-clone of Ness. Do we really need that? besides, the Earthbound series really doesn't need all that much representation, because having 2 characters is already over-representing the series enough. Like I said before having the Earthbound series get more reps than Donkey Kong and Metroid is just wrong. Their far more important series to Nintendo than Earthbound so why should Earthbound get all the reps but Donkey Kong and Metroid don't? Just keep Ness and maybe Lucas.

Stay Ninten out of this - having 2 clone/semi-clone characters in the same franchise is... I don't know.....

You should be grateful we have Lucas instead of just Ness.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Lucina, Anna, and that white haired dude won't be considered, let alone be playable. If you take off the fanboyism glasses, that much is evident.

Lyn could show up, but that's doubtful, although she could be great.

Chrom... he's generic and a boring character.
Ike is a beast, and if you don't want Ike back, you should feel lucky I'm not a mod because I would perma-ban you.
Roy... he's got a lot to work with, and is pretty freaking popular.

So my choices would be Ike and Roy I guess. If Lyn was more viable a choice, I'd pick her over Roy.

I'm not a fanboy of anybody FireEmblem and I still think that Robin has a good chance.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I know sheik is just zelda in a costume, disguised as a guy but I don't know how to refer to sheik
Sheik is technically female, but sheik is a male diguise

Says who? Not to mention in Brawl she had braided hair. Once you know she's a girl it's clear that she looks like girl.

 

[Johnknight1]

Easier to develop in a convenient way or easier to develop in a ridiculously lazy way. I always thought Chrom is THE laziest addition you could likely make to smash. "Uhhh, so which FE rep should we add? Oh, how bout that heavier Marth, he's teh most recent!" Well, that didn't take long.

PRINT DAT ****!!!

...I surprisingly agree 100% with all of this.

...weird....

 

[Gene]

Dixie > Candy
if we get furbait it should be Dixie not Krystal/Candy

How about Mega Gardevoir? She's literally waifu tier.

Spoiler

 

[Hotfeet444]

Ya know I totally forgot about that... What's the reason then for the Mewtwo in Origins not megavolving? Probably just due to being more savage like its game counterpart I guess. Whatever the reason, was convenient for the Charizard.

The only thing convenient for that Charizard was how stupidly inaccurate the anime tends to portray Pokemon at times. If it were more like they are in the actual games, that Charizard would've been a smear on the wall.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I think fans would enjoy it more if we dug up Fire Emblem's past history for characters. I as a Fire Emblem fan certainly would.

 

[Johnknight1]

Double Dash is usually considered the best Mario Kart game

I've never heard any gamer IRL tell me that.

Uusually people tell me it is Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64, or Mario Kart DS.

my favorite is the first one on the SNES and before you say it yes I am a Mario Kart Hipster

I would say either Mario Kart 64 or Mario Kart DS are my favorites, but Mario Kart DS IMO is definitely the best in the series.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Robin fits better as an Assist Trophy to me, but that's because I haven't played Awakening so he probably has a much bigger role than I think.

Speaking of "you know what", I think it's that time again
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I highly approve of Lololo and Lalala, Ghirahim, Swooping Snitchbug, Monita and Boom Boom.


I espescially approve of Swooping Snitchbug.

 

[YoshiandToad]

Lucina, Anna, and that white haired dude won't be considered, let alone be playable. If you take off the fanboyism glasses, that much is evident.

I'd almost argue that Robin(the white haired dude) IS the main character of Awakening. Chrom may be the Lord and on all the boxart, but Robin is very much the character you 'play' as.

Also turns out I haven't left yet so I will now formally cast my votes for Ike, Roy and maybe Robin if we have time and space.

 

[Johnknight1]

I'm not a fanboy of anybody FireEmblem and I still think that Robin has a good chance.

Nope. He's got a small chance perhaps, but not a "Good chance."

 

[TheLastJinjo]

The only thing convenient for that Charizard was how stupidly inaccurate the anime tends to portray Pokemon at times.

Like how in Pokemon Stadium Gengar is the size of Godzilla and Pichu is the size of a peanut.

Usually people tell me it is Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64, or Mario Kart 64.

Yeah, it's hard for me to pick between Mario Kart 64 & Mario Kart 64

I personally think Mario Kart 7 is the best, Mario Kart 64 is only my second favorite because of the nostalgia and the game is a teeny bit bland with bad controls. But, we should probably get back to smash related discussions.

 

[Reznor]

Where Samus outright slaughters Boba Fett like in the death battle, along with probably every other bounty hunter in the Star Wars universe, thus eliminating the competition for bounties?

While Ridley becomes the General Grievous of the series or something, etc.

ok i'm going to be really nerdy right now and compare nintendo universe to Star Wars ones because I've has this discussion before

yes metroid is stronger than the movie universe but if you go by the Expanded universe Samus gets murder stomped
only 3 nintendo universes can take out the expanded Star Wars universe

there are Pokemon that can control space and time nuff said
Kirby universe has characters that can burst galaxies
Earthbound has Giygas which is probably as strong as the Living Tribunal

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I highly approve of Lololo and Lalala, Ghirahim, Swooping Snitchbug, Monita and Boom Boom.


I espescially approve of Swooping Snitchbug.

I had Bumbling Snitchbug to be more canon with Pikmin 2, but Swooping Snitchbug is the more recognized one. I also had Monita to be the new Resetti, but it won't be as annoying as Silver's OP bull ****

 

[Reznor]

I've never heard any gamer IRL tell me that.

Uusually people tell me it is Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64, or Mario Kart 64.

I would say either Mario Kart 64 or Mario Kart DS are my favorites, but Mario Kart DS IMO is definitely the best in the series.

IRL every one I know says Double Dash is their favorite it might just be the areas we live are different
Mario Kart DS is probably the best 1 mechanically

 

[Johnknight1]

In Soviet Russia, Pokemon trains you!

By Soviet Russia, do you mean Sinnoh=???

Also, Sinnoh for smash! Because a Pokémon region should totally be playable!!!

 

[Hotfeet444]

Well, I made a new roster because I was bored, this one only having one cut because of trying to keep the cap at four for this specific roster.

So in total...35 veterans (Including Mewtwo) 12 newcomers (King K.Rool, Ridley, Chrom, Villager, Palutena, Takamaru, Little Mac, Shulk, Wii Fit Trainer, MegaMan, Pac-Man, Mii)

Yes, I know I have Pac-Man...boo hoo, cry some more.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Nope. He's got a small chance perhaps, but not a "Good chance."

Depends on whether or not Sakurai wants to get something other than another sword user for Smash 4

 

[kikaru]

By Soviet Russia, do you mean Sinnoh=???

Also, Sinnoh for smash! Because a Pokémon region should totally be playable!!!

inb4 Sinnoh is too big for Smash

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Well, I made a new roster because I was bored, this one only having one cut because of trying to keep the cap at four for this specific roster.

So in total...35 veterans (Including Mewtwo) 12 newcomers (King K.Rool, Ridley, Chrom, Villager, Palutena, Takamaru, Little Mac, Shulk, Wii Fit Trainer, MegaMan, Pac-Man, Mii)

Yes, I know I have Pac-Man...boo hoo, cry some more.

I only see 3 problems

1. Too many Third-Parties
2. Issac is more deserving than Shulk IMO
3. We should have at least 1 Pokemon that's not gen 1. Lucario is way too important to drop now. Cutting only one character is just not realistic and would cause pure outrage. It's simply unfair in literally every way imaginable. I can't imagine why Sakurai would have just enough time that he only had to cut ONE character and for Pac-Man.

 

[FinalStarmen]

Gods, while I do not desire to enter the ferocious jaws of the abominable beast... I feel I must.

Why is it that Chrom gets flaked for potentially being a Marth clone, but Roy, who was a Marth clone, gets off scot-free on that regard? I don't understand. Of course, I prefer Roy over Chrom personally (mainly due to nostalgia, though), but why the flagrant double standard over character move-sets?

Note: Can we please keep this accordingly civilized?

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Well, I made a new roster because I was bored, this one only having one cut because of trying to keep the cap at four for this specific roster.

So in total...35 veterans (Including Mewtwo) 12 newcomers (King K.Rool, Ridley, Chrom, Villager, Palutena, Takamaru, Little Mac, Shulk, Wii Fit Trainer, MegaMan, Pac-Man, Mii)

Yes, I know I have Pac-Man...boo hoo, cry some more.

The Mii is my only real problem here.

I'm not too fond of Pac-man either, but aside from that, good roster!

 

[BluePikmin11]

Poor Chrom only gets all the hate for supposedly being a clone.

 

[TheDivineDeity]

Gods, while I do not desire to enter the ferocious jaws of the abominable beast... I feel I must.

Why is it that Chrom gets flaked for potentially being a Marth clone, but Roy, who was a Marth clone, gets off scot-free on that regard? I don't understand. Of course, I prefer Roy over Chrom personally (mainly due to nostalgia, though), but why the flagrant double standard over character move-sets?

Note: Can we please keep this accordingly civilized?

because the Chromosexuals keeping ****ing ****ting on Roy for his moveset, saying "MUH we don't want clones" or "MUH Roy is boring moves Chrom is exciting moves" when Chrom could also be a clone and Roy can easily change his moveset.

I'm SO SICK AND TIRED of anybody who supports Roy getting **** on by the Chrom supporters. I'm so sick and tired of people supporting uninteresting characters with uninteresting movesets over actually interesting people. I mean maybe I'll give Chrom a chance, but I don't know... his supporters are ruining his reputation because of how they overrate him (go to GameFAQs). Seriously... why can't we just get along?

 

[Hotfeet444]

I only see 3 problems

1. Too many Third-Parties
2. Issac is more deserving than Shulk IMO
3. We should have at least 1 Pokemon that's not gen 1. Lucario is way too important to drop now.

1.) I think four is a perfect number, it's less than 1/10 of the roster and each character is a large videogame character.
2.) That's personal preference.
3.) It depends if Pokemon gets five reps, and it may happen, but considering I designed this roster with a cap of four, I picked the four most likely.

Poor Chrom only gets all the hate for supposedly being a clone.

I thought it was because people over-exaggerate he has no personality.

 

[Reznor]

Gods, while I do not desire to enter the ferocious jaws of the abominable beast... I feel I must.

Why is it that Chrom gets flaked for potentially being a Marth clone, but Roy, who was a Marth clone, gets off scot-free on that regard? I don't understand. Of course, I prefer Roy over Chrom personally (mainly due to nostalgia, though), but why the flagrant double standard over character move-sets?

Note: Can we please keep this accordingly civilized?

I thinks its just personal biased
Roy fans you have good reasons why Chrom shouldn't be in smash sostop using the "Chrom would be a clone" thing it doesn't make sense

 

[Ridley_Prime]

The only thing convenient for that Charizard was how stupidly inaccurate the anime tends to portray Pokemon at times. If it were more like they are in the actual games, that Charizard would've been a smear on the wall.

Eh, true. Still, both the anime Mewtwos have kinda spoiled us both. Femtwo "bonding with herself" and thus megavolving despite being wild, and all the crazy feats of the Kanto Mewtwo that you normally wouldn't see any game version of Mewtwo pulling off. Well the latter kinda applies to Femtwo as well, but yeah.

ok i'm going to be really nerdy right now and compare nintendo universe to Star Wars ones because I've has this discussion before

yes metroid is stronger than the movie universe but if you go by the Expanded universe Samus gets murder stomped
only 3 nintendo universes can take out the expanded Star Wars universe

there are Pokemon that can control space and time nuff said
Kirby universe has characters that can burst galaxies
Earthbound has Giygas which is probably as strong as the Living Tribunal

Sounds about right. Not all that familiar with with the Star Wars EU though, but know enough to figure that Samus would not last too long there, and that there's things in the EU that make even the Death Star look like a child's toy. So I guess I mostly had just the SW movies in mind when making my previous post. :S

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Gods, while I do not desire to enter the ferocious jaws of the abominable beast... I feel I must.

Why is it that Chrom gets flaked for potentially being a Marth clone, but Roy, who was a Marth clone, gets off scot-free on that regard? I don't understand. Of course, I prefer Roy over Chrom personally (mainly due to nostalgia, though), but why the flagrant double standard over character move-sets?

Note: Can we please keep this accordingly civilized?

Roy has teh phyre. (and also adds more variety in terms of just plain character.)

 

[BluePikmin11]

Why not give Chrom an awesome moveset to not make him bland.

 

[Seraphim.]

Gods, while I do not desire to enter the ferocious jaws of the abominable beast... I feel I must.

Why is it that Chrom gets flaked for potentially being a Marth clone, but Roy, who was a Marth clone, gets off scot-free on that regard? I don't understand. Of course, I prefer Roy over Chrom personally (mainly due to nostalgia, though), but why the flagrant double standard over character move-sets?

Note: Can we please keep this accordingly civilized?

I think it would be easier to fix Roy then it would be Chrom. But that's just me, I think's it's unfair that people call Chrom a clone when he could be unique if given the chance.