Supposedly, Roy's data is in Brawl's disk, so it's likely he was removed due to time constraints. 2nd, Roy has more fan-support to get in than Chrom. 3rd, Roy does everything Chrom can, except more DAZZLING, 4th, there are rumors of an FE6 remake.
Chrom's only real merit is his recentness really. He fights like Ike, and weild's Marth's sword... amazing. Not saying it can't happen, since it's likely IS would push for him, but, Sakurai dictates the Roster, not IS.
In addition to their popularity, Lyn and Roy have the added benefit of already showing up in the Smash series in one way or another, and Lyn even gets the boost of being a much more interesting fighter than any of the other FE lords. Something Sakurai openly stated he'd look at this time around.
I'll see if I can look for the source, but he said:
"I won't be adding just ANYONE to my game this time around, for someone to get into Smash Bros, they need to bring in something unique that has not been seen in the Smash Bros series before."
Or something along those lines, but that was pretty much the final nail in Chrom's coffin as a playable. Could he still get in? Well... yes, but it's not likely.
I was just saying, that the VA saying 'no' means nothing for or against Chrom, just like Sakurai's comment on the Metroid stage, doesn't really confirm or deconfirm anything.
People implying 'he said "no" because he's clearly trying not to spoil the fact that he's done Chrom's voice in Smash' are clearly "grasping at straws." That's all I was saying.
Anyway, different topic, since I'm done with the FE talk. I get the feeling Mewtwo might be the next reveal. Dunno why, but it seems like a good time to reveal him next month. Thoughts?
Even if Roy was removed due to time constraints, it means that he was seen as less of priority than other characters. I still think he needs a better reason to warrant a return after being cut.
I'd argue about the fan support; Chrom has plenty too. Additionally...a lot of the fan support I see for Roy is simply because Roy was in Melee. That's not the only reason, but I think all choices for FE should be made from a FE perspective, not just because something was already in SSB before.
I won't take rumors into serious consideration. I just don't.
I wouldn't use the "already has appeared in SSB" argument because it's unfair to this character; he has never had the opportunity to appear before. The same argument could have been made against Lucario or Ike in Brawl.
Not sure about that quote. I remember a similar one being said about 3rd party characters, but I think you're right in that that quote appeared. In any case, I still think that Chrom has more than a fair shot as a character.
Okay, I just needed clarification for the VA thing.
Mewtwo's possible and I love it, but they may stick to just revealing veterans for now. Could also be Pokemon Trainer next month.
That's cause of his late promotion and troll stat growths. I liked Roy actually, cause that Sword of Seals is just awesome.
To me, that comes down to character vs. fighting style. Is it more important to have a character that would be interesting moveset-wise or a character who is more important to the series? I think ultimately, the more important character to the series will win out.
That's not to say Roy isn't important to Fire Emblem, but...the thing that makes him interesting is the sword right? Not Roy himself.
Since most Fire Emblem games focus on a new protagonist each time, I think it makes sense to represent the latest one, which we saw in Roy and Ike's inclusions. I think both Marth and Ike make sense as well, as the most recurring and referenced protagonists.
So do you think chrom is going to be the 3rd character or do you think ike is going to be cut?
For me the only way chrom gets in is if ike gets cut, because chrom is just to similar to marth/ike already, personally I wouldn't want him as a PC I really don't want clones this time around. (and I really doubt that spear thing is happening.)
I could see it going either way; even though Ike has A TON of merit on his own to be in SSB4, I think Chrom totally follows up Ike being in SSBB without Roy. The circumstances are VERY different, and I think Ike is much better established than Roy ever was, but the same situation COULD happen again.
Ultimately, I disagree that Chrom could not be unique. As it is, a majority of Marth and Ike's movesets are created from scratch and use references from animations seen in-game. I think doing the same for Chrom is just as simple; create different sword attacks from scratch, and use animations (as well as references from the cutscenes) to build his moveset, like that spinning front-flip pinwheel attack he does.
I disagree with the general notion that just because several characters who all happen to be from the same series and all happen to use the same type of weapon (sword) means that they have to be similar to eachother moveset-wise. I think Marth, Ike, and Chrom can co-exist and play differently.
