Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[Deleted member]

Thanks, bro.

Damn, forgot Godzilla was there, lol.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Giving Gen 5 a rep, although I think Lucario should stay over Red (I don't think both should return, the roster would be too much like Brawl then).
Robin reps multiple games
Impa could go I guess
And like I said, I see one or the other staying in terms of Brawl's newcomers. Lucario would be a better choice and knowing you then you would be happy for that.

If you're crazy about Gen 5, then make one of the characters DLC then.
Lol Robin isn't gonna make it. Fire Emblem has Lords only and until that is broken, I can't see Robin making the cut. There's been MANY classes in that series and the only one that's been in are Lords. Sothe, Mia, and Black Knight were all considered for Brawl due to their popularity though.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Genesect over Lucario is No. And Seriously? Simon Belmont over Bomberman??? If you're gonna remove Snake I highly doubt Bomberman wouldn't be prioritized over Pac-Man and Simon Belmont. Not that I really count BM as a Konami rep.

Also don't be afraid to add Starfy at all. He's like Way in my top 10 MOST likely characters. I have no idea what other people are thinking that he's not.

Not familiar with Mike Jones, Adam, Areon, or Zael. If those last 2 are XenoBlade than that's too many. I was gonna add a second GS rep (Karis) a while back. But, thats too many as well.

If you have 5 Zelda Characters I suggest one of them be Toon Link and that Impa be an Assist Trophy. Also if Diddy & Dixie are together add King K. Rool. If you're gonna have Robin and Chrom replace Chrom with Robin. Ike is the second most popular Lord and as of recently I am concerned we MAY not even get 1 Awakening Rep.

I support Sheriff as he his an Arcade rep as well as the first Nintendo Game. I believe he is the equivalent to Ice Climbers.

1. I am considering putting Zoroark in over Genesect, like in my older rosters. Lucario may have a chance to stay though.
2. I think Simon Belmont reps more of the Nintendo side of Konami. Either him or Trevor.
3. Starfy has a shot.
4. Aeron is from Pandora's Tower. Zael is from Last Story. I think if Xenoblade did get a DLC character it would be Mechon Fiora.
5. I could see Toon Link staying but the whole train stage on 3DS with him as a conductor may be showing he is out. Who knows really. Impa is possible but if I had to pick between her and Ghirahim, Ghirahim would be my obvious choice.
6. K. Rool might work, and he was on my roster before, but I was trying to save room for reps of other franchises.
7. I am think of having a Robin and Chrom duo team now.
8. Fire Emblem should have 3 reps, I think it deserves it by now.
9. Awesome, another Sheriff supporter.

Robin cannot represent multiple games AT ALL. If you want to rep multiple games Pick a lord who has been in at least 2 games or Anna, who has been in all FE games aside from 1. The only FE game I even know of the used a Tactician sort of thing was the first one to come overseas and it was no where near there detail of what FEA has. Robin only reps Awakening, learn your FE. >_>

The tactian was basically in Fire Emblem 7, Heroes of Light and Shadow, and Awakening. i might be missing something as well. Robin may be the latest one, but the class type he/she is reps multiple games.

If you're crazy about Gen 5, then make one of the characters DLC then.
Lol Robin isn't gonna make it. Fire Emblem has Lords only and until that is broken, I can't see Robin making the cut. There's been MANY classes in that series and the only one that's been in are Lords. Sothe, Mia, and Black Knight were all considered for Brawl due to their popularity though.

That could work too I guess. If not Robin by him/her self I could see a Robin/Chrom team.

 

[TaichiYaegashi]

Ignore this.

 

[mimgrim]

The tactian was basically in Fire Emblem 7, Heroes of Light and Shadow, and Awakening. i might be missing something as well. Robin may be the latest one, but the class type he/she is reps multiple games.

It was in Heroes of Light and Shadow to? My mistake on not knowing that, I'm still pissed we didn't get it out over in America and thus know nothing about the game due to that. lol But no Robin doesn't. The "tactician" int hose games aren't even classes and Robin is done totally differently from how it is done in those games. Heck the tactician in 7 and 12 doesn't even have a face. Robin can only rep FEA. If you want to rep multiple games you are better off with Marth (4 games and I believe he has a bried cameo appreance in FE2 and is refrenced heavily in FE13), Ike (2 games and is refrenced in FE13), or Anna (Has been in all but one FE game). No other character can rep multiple games. .-.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

1. I am considering putting Zoroark in over Genesect, like in my older rosters. Lucario may have a chance to stay though.
2. I think Simon Belmont reps more of the Nintendo side of Konami. Either him or Trevor.
3. Starfy has a shot.
4. Aeron is from Pandora's Tower. Zael is from Last Story. I think if Xenoblade did get a DLC character it would be Mechon Fiora.
5. I could see Toon Link staying but the whole train stage on 3DS with him as a conductor may be showing he is out. Who knows really. Impa is possible but if I had to pick between her and Ghirahim, Ghirahim would be my obvious choice.
6. K. Rool might work, and he was on my roster before, but I was trying to save room for reps of other franchises.
7. I am think of having a Robin and Chrom duo team now.
8. Fire Emblem should have 3 reps, I think it deserves it by now.
9. Awesome, another Sheriff supporter.

Well, here's the problem with Zoroark and Genesect. If there is room to add Genesect or Zoroark, that spot will be taken by Lucario. The only person who can replace Lucario is NeoMew. Lucario is way more popular and requested than both Zoroark & Genesect. If you want a NEW Poke'mon Trainer and you don't bother adding Lucario, make 2 Poke'mon Trainers one from Red/Blue one from X/Y. But, Lucario would be better.

and Yeaaah Simon having more of a Nintendo side than BOMBERMAN is not really true at all to be historically accurate.

Also I wouldn't just say King K. Rool or Starfy have a shot. I would go a little further than that.

 

[TumblrFamous]

Guess I'll post this here too. Like said, any criticism is welcomed.

Its good. I just have two things. I'm not sure on Pacman, I think three is fine. You could replacement e him with someone like Isaac or Shulk. And I still think K. Rool is better than Dixie.

Still, just my two beefs with it, and its just an opinion. Other than that, I love the roster (LOVE the Zelda slots).

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Does anyone want to rate my roster? I'm curious to hear what you guys think

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

It was in Heroes of Light and Shadow to? My mistake on not knowing that, I'm still pissed we didn't get it out over in America and thus know nothing about the game due to that. lol But no Robin doesn't. The "tactician" int hose games aren't even classes and Robin is done totally differently from how it is done in those games. Heck the tactician in 7 and 12 doesn't even have a face. Robin can only rep FEA. If you want to rep multiple games you are better off with Marth (4 games and I believe he has a bried cameo appreance in FE2 and is refrenced heavily in FE13), Ike (2 games and is refrenced in FE13), or Anna (Has been in all but one FE game). No other character can rep multiple games. .-.

You create the avatar in Heroes of Light and Shadow

Also the avatar/tactician shows up in a few games (type of character) and represents the player in the rest.

Well, here's the problem with Zoroark and Genesect. If there is room to add Genesect or Zoroark, that spot will be taken by Lucario. The only person who can replace Lucario is NeoMew. Lucario is way more popular and requested than both Zoroark & Genesect. If you want a NEW Poke'mon Trainer and you don't bother adding Lucario, make 2 Poke'mon Trainers one from Red/Blue one from X/Y. But, Lucario would be better.

and Yeaaah Simon having more of a Nintendo side than BOMBERMAN is not really true at all to be historically accurate.

Also I wouldn't just say King K. Rool or Starfy have a shot. I would go a little further than that.

I could see them as the 5th Gen choice, and Lucario would be the fourth. Also right now I am picking Gold because of the remake and general Gen 2 popularity. it could easily be Hilda, etc though.

I mean more of the Castlevania side.

They are big characters but they aren't guarantees.

 

[Silverjay323]

No, it was Mew.
All of the sites got it ****ing wrong.
There was actually an image for the results taken from the poll itself, though strangely, it seemed to have been completely wiped off the face of the earth.

Thankfully, I found one image still up, as ****ty as it is. Decided to save it before it disappears too.

You'd have to be blind to not see that's Mew and not Meowth.

Also worth noting is that Meowth isn't within the Top 10 for America either. (Though admittedly, there was some trolling with that, as Ditto, Mudkip, and Magikarp are within the Top 10.)

I find it hard to believe ALL of them got it wrong when all you have to show for it is this. The image is questionable. I could just as easily post the image gallery provided by Nintendo World report and call you blind as well. The fact of the matter is, most sources say meowth, and it seems that you can't really prove otherwise. I could be wrong, but what you've given doesn't disprove anything I've stated before aside from you stating that they're wrong.

 

[Deleted member]

A meager image gallery

Vs.

a screen cap taken of the ****ING WEBSITE THAT HAD THE POLL IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Any shred of reason to take anything you say seriously has just been destroyed.

EDIT:
And speak of the devil, lookie here.
http://pokemonblackandwhite.net/?p=1647
Not only does Pokémon Black and White.net state that it is Mew and not Meowth, but they have a clearer image.

Official Nintendo Magazine also states it is Mew, but that's kind of superfluous at this point.

 

[mimgrim]

You create the avatar in Heroes of Light and Shadow

Also the avatar/tactician shows up in a few games (type of character) and represents the player in the rest.

Oh you mean the player created charatcer in FE12....... That is way way way different from the Tactician, the player created character is more meant to be like Marth's Shadow not his tactician, just because 2 games in a series have a customizable character doesn't mean they are the same thing. In FE12 the customiable character is meant to be Marth's Shadow not the tacticion and you can chose it's starting class AND that customizable character actually has a canon look, unlike Robin. Only 2 games have had a customizable character so far and one of them wasn't a tactician. The only other time the tactician is refered is in FE7. Now by the way you worded you second sentence it sounds like you treating characters Like Soren as a tactician to which is wrong. Robin CANNOT rep multiple games as robin was ONLY IN ONE game and can thus only rep one game. Your trying to connect things that aren't there. Stop please jsut stop trying to connect things that aren't connected.

 

[Silverjay323]

A meager image gallery

Vs.

a screen cap taken of the ****ING WEBSITE THAT HAD THE POLL IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Any shred of reason to take anything you say seriously has just been destroyed.

Ok then 0.o

 

[Deleted member]

EDIT:
And speak of the devil, lookie here.
http://pokemonblackandwhite.net/?p=1647
Not only does Pokémon Black and White.net state that it is Mew and not Meowth, but they have a clearer image.

Official Nintendo Magazine also states it is Mew, but that's kind of superfluous at this point.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Good afternoon everyone. What's the topic today?

But first, a little gift.

I thought Impa deserved a support drawing too. Hope you Impa supporters like it! So what's the subject? The same as usual?

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

I've heard the occasional support for Sheriff before, but he still seems rather obscure to me. Has anyone truly made a moveset for Sheriff yet? One that seems warranted in being in Smash Bros. on part of offering something unique, I mean.

*Ahem*

 

[Hotfeet444]

*Ahem*

I haven't made a moveset for Sheriff yet, but I will say that like the Ice Climbers, there would need to be new source material made. The Ice Climbers were just climbers but in Smash they have ice powers, so the Sheriff would probably have cowboy powers. A fancy flintlock magnum, a lasso, horses, and running over people with a train for a final smash. (And alcoholism, can't forget that. )

 

[BluePikmin11]

Maybe Sheriff can look like the Wild Gunman, only his body is black and white, and his attacks make retro effects.

 

[FalKoopa]

I would like a total revamp for Sheriff, similar to Pit.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Sheriff Move Set

Entrance: Horse

Neutral B: Duo Guns (Dislcaimer: Bullets do not peirce flesh )

Upward B: Lasso (You can charge this by spinning it around a grab on to things including ledges and characters, both will pull you back up. Hold the control stick in the direction you want to throw it.)

Grab: Lasso

Upward Smash: Fires both guns upward.

That's all I got.........what else do cowboys do?

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Oh you mean the player created charatcer in FE12....... That is way way way different from the Tactician, the player created character is more meant to be like Marth's Shadow not his tactician, just because 2 games in a series have a customizable character doesn't mean they are the same thing. In FE12 the customiable character is meant to be Marth's Shadow not the tacticion and you can chose it's starting class AND that customizable character actually has a canon look, unlike Robin. Only 2 games have had a customizable character so far and one of them wasn't a tactician. The only other time the tactician is refered is in FE7. Now by the way you worded you second sentence it sounds like you treating characters Like Soren as a tactician to which is wrong. Robin CANNOT rep multiple games as robin was ONLY IN ONE game and can thus only rep one game. Your trying to connect things that aren't there. Stop please jsut stop trying to connect things that aren't connected.

I can see that, but there are some similarities.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Second post to quickly mention something.

Take this look and upgrade it, like Pit. That would work for Sheriff.

 

[Gune]

Second post to quickly mention something.

Take this look and upgrade it, like Pit. That would work for Sheriff.

How do we upgrade this old fart?

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

How do we upgrade this old fart?

How did we upgrade this?



Sheriff can easily be made younger and "cooler" looking.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Second post to quickly mention something.

Take this look and upgrade it, like Pit. That would work for Sheriff.

The better question is...how do we make a character whose main weapon is a gun work all-together in a game like this? Snake uses guns but he was specifically designed to use anything BUT guns. I'm just questioning whether they'd use a character like this in general.

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

What would they do about his pistol?

 

[Gune]

The better question is...how do we make a character whose main weapon is a gun work all-together in a game like this? Snake uses guns but he was specifically designed to use anything BUT guns. I'm just questioning whether they'd use a character like this in general.

Totally forgot about that, guess we gotta make him into a galactitc sheriff in his reboot so he can use a laser gun sakurai has no problems with laser guns.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Here's the main roster and list of DLC altogether. I made a few minor changes like making some of the cut characters (minus Snake) as DLC, replace 2nd Gen Trainer with the original First Gen since Pokemon like Squirtle and Charizard are ionic, I bought back Toon Link since I can tell that the whole Toon Link being on the Spirit Train is Tron Bonne in MvC3 all over again, I updated Olimar's image, and axed Starfy because many people would rather have Isaac instead of him. *raises flame shield*

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Here's the main roster and list of DLC altogether. I made a few minor changes like making some of the cut characters (minus Snake) as DLC, replace 2nd Gen Trainer with the original First Gen since Pokemon like Squirtle and Charizard are ionic, I bought back Toon Link since I can tell that the whole Toon Link being on the Spirit Train is Tron Bonne in MvC3 all over again, I updated Olimar's image, and axed Starfy because many people would rather have Isaac instead of him. *raises flame shield*

Medusa appearing as a Downloadable Palutena clone is likely.

 

[Gune]

Here's the main roster and list of DLC altogether. I made a few minor changes like making some of the cut characters (minus Snake) as DLC, replace 2nd Gen Trainer with the original First Gen since Pokemon like Squirtle and Charizard are ionic, I bought back Toon Link since I can tell that the whole Toon Link being on the Spirit Train is Tron Bonne in MvC3 all over again, I updated Olimar's image, and axed Starfy because many people would rather have Isaac instead of him. *raises flame shield*

It's a great roster i would switch Lucario and Zoroark though but other than its pretty great 9/10

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Sheriff shoots a white bar that makes retro sounds and effects as he does in the game.

Gun problem solved!

Also:

Reboot design solved!

 

[AEMehr]

Here's my roster...

I wanted both added Toad over Bowser Jr. or Waluigi because he was one of the original Mario characters and he could have a interesting moveset.
I wanted Avatar from FE,but I decided that Chrom was more deserving and I kept Ike.
Kept Lucario and Mewtwo due to them both having different moveset potential and both being popular.
I'd be ok with Lucario or Ike being cut for another rep.

I like it, but I think 59 Characters total is pushing it a bit. I also think that 5 Third Party characters is a bit too much too.
Other than those two, my only other gripes with this roster is the extra Star Fox and Kirby character. I'd suggest looking into more untouched Nintendo franchises.

I've made some edits to my DLC roster from awhile back

Edit: Pokemon Trainer will still do the 3 Pokemon combo, but keep Charizard and get Totodile and Grovyle

I think making Pokemon Trainer having a pokemon for each of the original generations is an interesting concept. You'd probably have to redesign the Trainer to make him somewhat look like the three protagonists though.
I don't have any problems with this roster to be honest, I mean you kept Charizard at least (I'd personally think we'd see Tetra before Vaati though).

DISCLAIMER: No offense to people with these characters.
I think there needs to be a clear distinction between what characters are popular enough and have enough move set potential for PLAYABLE Charactes. And what characters are Popular enough and/or have as much move set potential to be ASSIST CHARACTERS (trophies)
This is the list of Top 10 Roster characters I think should be Assist Trophies. (in no particular order)

1. Impa
2. Magnus (From Kid Icarus Uprising)
3. Muddy Mole
4. Dillon
5. Lip
6. Duck Hunt Dog (as a dud)
7. Prince Sable
8. Urban Champiom (I think someone mentioned him in this thread recently)
9. Balloon Fighter
10. Michaiah (From Fire Emblem)

But, that's just my opinion.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, discrediting a character due to moveset potential is a poor way to discredit them from being a playable character. All of the ones you've listed (except maybe Urban Champion) do, in their own right, have a good potential moveset and are worthy of being among Nintendo's all-stars.

Any changes you would make?

I am considering replacing Genesect with Zoroark. And working on the DLC a bit.

I don't like the idea of turning Diddy into a tag team, I think it's better to just add a new character for the Donkey Kong franchise in general.
I also don't think we'll be seeing Toon Link go either, regardless of his descendent's appearance on the Spirit Train. If they are going to declone characters, Toon Link certainly has great unique moveset potential.
For Pokemon I really think that we shouldn't change or "Upgrade" the Pokemon Trainer, mainly because of Charizard's presence. Also replacing Zoroark with his replacement might not be a good idea, considering that Lucario literally stole all of Zoroark's spot in the limelight.
I also really doubt we could lose Snake if Sonic is returning.

Here's the main roster and list of DLC altogether. I made a few minor changes like making some of the cut characters (minus Snake) as DLC, replace 2nd Gen Trainer with the original First Gen since Pokemon like Squirtle and Charizard are ionic, I bought back Toon Link since I can tell that the whole Toon Link being on the Spirit Train is Tron Bonne in MvC3 all over again, I updated Olimar's image, and axed Starfy because many people would rather have Isaac instead of him. *raises flame shield*

I really think Snake is going to stay if Sonic stays and again I don't think Zoroark is going to end up replacing Lucario, I mean considering what the company has been doing with Zoroark and Lucario it wouldn't make sense to remove a more popular Pokemon in favor of a less popular one in the company's eyes.

Good afternoon everyone. What's the topic today?

But first, a little gift.

I thought Impa deserved a support drawing too. Hope you Impa supporters like it! So what's the subject? The same as usual?

Always nice to see one of your drawings Hotfeet, I'm a big fan of your style.

 

[SchAlternate]

No, it was Mew.
All of the sites got it ****ing wrong.
There was actually an image for the results taken from the poll itself, though strangely, it seemed to have been completely wiped off the face of the earth.

Thankfully, I found one image still up, as ****ty as it is. Decided to save it before it disappears too.

You'd have to be blind to not see that's Mew and not Meowth.

Also worth noting is that Meowth isn't within the Top 10 for America either. (Though admittedly, there was some trolling with that, as Ditto, Mudkip, and Magikarp are within the Top 10.)

Well, remember the results were skewered because people would want to obtain rarest/strongest Pokémons, as the winning Pokémon would be given away via download. That's why most of the Pokémons on that list are rare, powerful Pokés rather than their actual favorites.

While Mew might still have ranked pretty high, I'm sure Meowth is still among the favorites.

 

[Gune]

Well, remember the results were skewered because people would want to obtain rarest/strongest Pokémons, as the winning Pokémon would be given away via download. That's why most of the Pokémons on that list are rare, powerful Pokés rather than their actual favorites.

While Mew might still have ranked pretty high, I'm sure Meowth is still among the favorites.

We will never know untill we have another poll for pokemon popularity poll because this one doesent really count...

 

[DarrylTrainer]

Let's deal with the future "problems" now:
Krystal: I feel that Sakurai will put her in just so people will stop begging for her.
Dixie/Diddy: "characters LIKE Ice Climbers"
Boswer Jr: I'd rather have Paper Mario, but it seems more likely...
Tom Nook: I foolishly believe the "he looked at the invitation" "hint"
Pac-Man: I also believe the Little Mac/Mii/Pac-Man rumour...

And now DLC:
I can't imagine he wouldn't use DLC and NOT bring back Melee characters: Dr. Mario, Young Link, Pichu, Roy
I also imagine he'd bring in the "let's just give 'em what they want characters: Waluigi, Tingle, Toad, Tails (surprise!Character/SEGA deal)
Just throw in a few easy clones around the time when he claims that "this will be the last game" : Daisy, Medusa, Alph, Zoroak, Lucia, Kalos Trainer
and then he might give us ONE "creative/new" character: Takamaru (if he isn't on the original roster)

Yes I believe this is all possible with Namco's help.

...I wish for Paper Mario/Yarn Kirby....sigh

 

[FalKoopa]

Zoroark will be a clone? Of which character? (>_>)

 

[FlareHabanero]

Zoroark will be a clone? Of which character? (>_>)

Clearly a King Dedede clone.

 

[Gune]

Zoroark will be a clone? Of which character? (>_>)

Obivously Olimar she will control legion's of zorua's.

 

[DarrylTrainer]

Zoroark will be a clone? Of which character? (>_>)

woops didn't mean to put it under clones....meant to put under what people want, but umm i think it would have similar moves to Lucario/Samus......

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, discrediting a character due to moveset potential is a poor way to discredit them from being a playable character. All of the ones you've listed (except maybe Urban Champion) do, in their own right, have a good potential moveset and are worthy of being among Nintendo's all-stars.

I'll have to respectfully disagree that it IS a reason to discredit someone as a PLAYABLE character, and that most of these are not in my eyes or very many "worthy of being deemed a Nintendo All-Star" Muddy Mole, Prince Sable, and Lip. Also usually the only time a character gets in without move set potential is if Sakurai views the character as an essential All-Star (Fox & C. Falcon) to the point where it would be so necessary as to make up moves because of how important the character is to Nintendo OR making them a Semi-clone (Falco, Wolf, Luigi, 2nd Link). Just because a character has a full move-set doesn't mean it's good or unique from another character.

Take Magnus for example. What would he do other than weild a sword. Don't we have enough characters that just weild swords. He'd probably be an Ike clone. And Urban Champion doesn't have move set potential that would be unique from C. Falcon and Little Mac. Different doesn't always equal unique. And Sakurai stated in a recent interview that a lot of characters are picked when they have REALLY good move set potential.