Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[Morbi]

Miis are one of the most deserving characters of all and yet there are so many reasons why they don't work.

What are the reasons that they don't work? I seriously have yet to read a plausible notion that actually incites me to agree that they are not viable.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

They bring problems along with them, like Hitler vs Jesus in an online match, but that's nothing that's going to stop them from working in Smash Bros. The problems are the simple reason we don't want them in though.

 

[Baskerville]

What are the reasons that they don't work? I seriously have yet to read a plausible notion that actually incites me to agree that they are not viable.

I think its more of a case of people simply not wanting them rather than not having a working moveset.
But in my opinion they would be very bland when compared to other veterans and even the newcomers.
Aaaaand the who Hitler Jesus thing.

 

[Morbi]

They bring problems along with them, like Hitler vs Jesus in an online match, but that's nothing that's going to stop them from working in Smash Bros. The problems are the simple reason we don't want them in though.

Hitler vs Jesus is a problem? I thought that was a reason to have them to be perfectly honest .

I see what you are getting at though.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

What are the reasons that they don't work? I seriously have yet to read a plausible notion that actually incites me to agree that they are not viable.

Well, for one they'd have to be treated differently from the rest of the cast.

 

[BKupa666]

They bring problems along with them, like Hitler vs Jesus in an online match, but that's nothing that's going to stop them from working in Smash Bros. The problems are the simple reason we don't want them in though.

This. I don't think a single person on here would argue that the Mii isn't an iconic character whose inclusion would made sense, but that doesn't stop me from considering the Mii the single worst character that could be added.

 

[Morbi]

This. I don't think a single person on here would argue that the Mii isn't an iconic character whose inclusion would made sense, but that doesn't stop me from considering the Mii the single worst character that could be added.

I agree with that sentiment; as many, I have already acknowledged that it is inevitable and that I should see the positives as opposed to the negatives.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I'd actually hate Pac-Man more. Actually, Mii and Pac-Man are the only two plausible characters I'd actively dislike, Chrom too if he throws Ike off, the rest are okay in my book.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

"Strike, brothers! Make the fools pay for our abuse and slavery!"

I wouldn't be surprised if such a MIi uprising were to happen in the near future.

I don't know why but this post made me lose my ****

 

[Morbi]

I'd actually hate Pac-Man more. Actually, Mii and Pac-Man are the only two plausible characters I'd actively dislike, Chrom too if he throws Ike off, the rest are okay in my book.

I almost forgot about Pac-Man. That is also a pretty bad choice; I wouldn't assert that it is nearly as likely as the Miis inclusion though. We might get both, that thought scares me.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I don't want Pac-man, but I wouldn't hate his inclusion either.


The Mii on the other hand......

 

[AncientTobacco]

I don't see anything wrong with Pac-Man.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Pac-Man's inclusion would be worse than Mii by far.

 

[Morbi]

I don't see anything wrong with Pac-Man.

He just screams generic blue hedgehog cheese wheel. A lot of people that misinterpreted Sakurai's Namco quote would also proceed to call Sakurai a liar, that will be the funny part, the good part.

 

[BKupa666]

I'd actually hate Pac-Man more. Actually, Mii and Pac-Man are the only two plausible characters I'd actively dislike, Chrom too if he throws Ike off, the rest are okay in my book.

I'd hate why Pac-Man and Chrom got in, but the characters themselves are just middle-of-the-road bores, whereas the Mii is actively bad, taking up more development time than the average character while being repetitive and grating to the senses, and also far less avoidable online.

Put it this way, would you rather get a lame character that wouldn't require more development time than average and who is just one guy, or an invasive one with no redeeming qualities who requires additional development time for multiple height and weight combinations, all for a moveset that's already functionally in the game twice over, and who is, by its nature, millions of guys?

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Pac-man just doesn't interest me.

I don't want to end up losing to Mii players using Miis that look like Jesus, nor do I want to fight or lose to Miis with dongs their faces, or Miis based on fictional characters I just don't like.

And since I don't know much about Fire Emblem I really wouldn't be upset about Chrom's inclusion, unless he replaced Ike.

 

[Morbi]

I'd hate why Pac-Man and Chrom got in, but the characters themselves are just middle-of-the-road bores, whereas the Mii is actively bad, taking up more development time than the average character while being repetitive and grating to the senses, and also far less avoidable online.

Put it this way, would you rather get a lame character that wouldn't require more development time than average and who is just one guy, or an invasive one with no redeeming qualities who requires additional development time for multiple height and weight combinations, all for a moveset that's already functionally in the game twice over.

The biggest reason I didn't want Mii characters is because we already have Villager, which emulates the Mii style. His play-style is also reminiscent of something I would expect out of Miis.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Pac-man just doesn't interest me.

I don't want to end up losing to Mii players using Miis that look like Jesus, nor do I want to fight or lose to Miis with dongs their faces, or Miis based on fictional characters I just don't like.

And since I don't know much about Fire Emblem I really wouldn't be upset about Chrom's inclusion, unless he replaced Ike.

Just don't worry about their faces. That's all you have to do.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

The only cool thing about Pac-Man would be the potential for an awesome matchup of Mario v Sonic v Mega Man v Pac-man. That's my own supportive note.

Otherwise I would prefer to keep Pac-Man out.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Just don't worry about their faces. That's all you have to do.

It's not really just that. I've wound up fighting tons of players considerably better than me online in Brawl, I'd be likely to run into some Mii mainers that are better than me as well. That's why I wouldn't want to lose to them, the face wouldn't be so distracting to me except at the beginning, and if I lost to a Mii with a dong on their face or whatever due to my inferior skill, I'd just be ticked off.

The Miis would be a big nuisance in online play, of that I'm sure of.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Chrom is really cool, I just don't see how he could possibly end up being different.

 

[Arcadenik]

Absolutely not; it would be absolutely fallacious to disregard the success of the Wii era. Miis will always be a staple of Nintendo, it doesn't matter if they drop off or are no longer prevalent. They will always represent Nintendo's high-point in my opinion. I mean some might change their perspectives to something antithetical, but those are fad speculators, no one really cares what they think.

Considering that Miyamoto has always wanted to include avatars in games since the NES days, I would think that Miis would be around for a very, very long time...

 

[TheLastJinjo]

BTW, where did Ike's fire come from?

 

[Deleted member]

That pic in the vid....
is that a reference to Casshern?

EDIT: I also have to laugh when people mention Dedede's "shirt" being different in Brawl than in Kirby games.

He's not wearing a shirt outside of Brawl. That cream colored mass? That's his belly.
Brawl gave him a kimono over it.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Chrom is really cool, I just don't see how he could possibly end up being different.

Pair him with a certain Marth masquerader for unique moveset potential and all you problems would be solved.

 

[Morbi]

Chrom is really cool, I just don't see how he could possibly end up being different.

... Um... you see... they would develop a different move-set for him, and that could possibly be how he ends up different.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Pair him with a certain Marth masquerader for unique moveset potential and all you problems would be solved.

You mean made even worse?

 

[BluePikmin11]

Don't see why you have to be against the duo, it makes sense considering there's a pair-up system in the game, and having two of the most popular Awakening characters as a duo fits like a charm.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

You mean made even worse?

Are you afraid they may be too overpowered or is it a bad idea overall?

 

[Fire Emblemier]

BTW, where did Ike's fire come from?

Ike really never used Fire, but most assume it's a reference to Radiant Dawn's endgame cut-scene, where Yune, an goddess, (who is also possessing Micaiah at the moment) who's allies with Ike, powers him up so he can end do the final hit hit to the Evil Godess, Ashera. During that moment Ike is surrounded by an aura of Blue Flames.

 

[Morbi]

You mean made even worse?

You just stated that the problem you have is that he wouldn't be different. Pairing him with Lucina would certainly make him different, thus solving your problem.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I'd hate why Pac-Man and Chrom got in, but the characters themselves are just middle-of-the-road bores, whereas the Mii is actively bad, taking up more development time than the average character while being repetitive and grating to the senses, and also far less avoidable online.

Put it this way, would you rather get a lame character that wouldn't require more development time than average and who is just one guy, or an invasive one with no redeeming qualities who requires additional development time for multiple height and weight combinations, all for a moveset that's already functionally in the game twice over, and who is, by its nature, millions of guys?

I understand why Miis would be worse from that perspective, but at least it'll be fun beating the snot out of them, especially since many of them would be embodiments of the Miiverse people. Miis as general video game characters I'm fine with, and I acknowledge their importance and their casual appeal (not enough to make me like them though.) Besides that I wouldn't even play online that much, since I generally get enjoyment out of Smash from playing with friends. I can't even respect Pac-Man as a general video game character anymore though, he had one game that shaked the video game industry, and that's when it should have ended. However, in true Axl Rose manner he continues and has become nothing but a cheap Kirby knock-off. He's been living off of nothing but his name and his arcade fame for 30 years now, I don't respect anything that lives off of 1 out of 50ish titles.

Plus, while Miis would require quite some development time, Pac-Man is still a 3rd party character, and while Namco Bandai are working on the game it still can't be easy to deal with all ther rights. I mean, it's not like the Pac-Man rights sit with the developers who help with Smash Bros, they're still at Namco's HQ, so they still have to go through the hassle of gaining those rights. Sure it's not Sonic, Snake or Mega Man hard, but still more difficult than dealing with a ordinary Nintendo character.

 

[Deleted member]

So guys, how about Captain Wario?

 

[Fire Emblemier]

So guys, how about Captain Wario?

Another neat alt. for Wario, but since there's biker Wario, it probably won't happen.

 

[Morbi]

So guys, how about Captain Wario?

10/10, would bang.

Another neat alt. for Wario, but since there's biker Wario, it probably won't happen.

Wario might have 3 alternative costumes this time as he had 2 last time. Logic.

 

[Deleted member]

But what you don't get is that he has a sword.
Wario w/ Sword for best Lord.

 

[AncientTobacco]

Does anyone actually prefer Biker Wario over the "classic" version?

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Does anyone actually prefer Biker Wario over the "classic" version?

Um, no. I actually think he'll main the classic design this time.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Does anyone actually prefer Biker Wario over the "classic" version?

It depends on your preference. Some people may like the WarioWare titles more than the Wario Land titles.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Does anyone actually prefer Biker Wario over the "classic" version?

It makes him look more original and less of a (dare I say it) evil Mario knockoff. That outfit overall gives him some form of class and makes his personality stand out more.