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Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

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courte

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#MarthIsBland
what'd i miss guys?

holy crap i was here on wednesday?

i dream of a series of smash games where i double post in bickering threads.
a game with a different set of rosters to give a large number of nintendo characters a chance to shine in the battle arena
a game with inventive stages from a great many nintendo games not just from recent years, but from the pre-smash era when takamaru and mach rider got their first shot.
a game where if the same character appeared in both, they would be radically different giving a new gameplay experience for the user. Be it Ganon, Zelda, Mario, or Pikachi in their 20's 30's or 50's [levels in regards to pokemon i suppose]
a game for the hardcore who break down the data and matchups. who care for the meta and the competitive nature inherent in a fight
and another game for the fans first who could care less about any of that stuff what makes the characters special and unique, but who'll still get it anyway
and another game halfway in the middle, where characters are picked not based on popularity today or standing in the hallowed nintendo halls of all time, nor their feasability, but by the votes of the people where no one criteria would stand above the other. when diskun would get in because enough people voted for him and decided YES! LETS MAKE THIS WHOLE THING RETRO! and mario doesn't have to fight the disk card he wiped his bum with that few people today remember or talk about unless they're dieharddieharders

i did however never dream of Marth who is bland, never being not bland, because there are like a million other fire emblem characters and classes so y'know move over and quit hogging the spotlight with your cheap falchion waving booty. at least our boy Roy took his lumps because it meant getting in close for that crit. #HectorForSmash4 #MarthIsBland
 

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So, do you guys think that Toon Link's early reveal could possibly mean that we could have another Toon styled character for SSB4?
Maybe, though if Toon Zelda did get in, she would almost certainly be hidden, given she is not just clone material, but lowly requested, perhaps in order to avoid general disappointment.
 

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Because people hates warlock punch :'(
I love that thing, I just don't want it to look so "punchy". I want it to look more like a blast of dark energy (with improved range) than a punch.

The one move I'd work heavily on would be Wizard Foot, imo. Needs to be a punch to the ground a la Oot. (It'd work the same in the air, though)

Oh, and a trident too.

Wait, are we talking Ganondorf again? Christ.

that's what toon Zelda would transform into
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Nope; T-Rex confirmed for most likely Newcomer. :troll:

Cuz it's a MOTHERF*bricked*
 

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She will likely be a last-minute semi-clone if they run out of time. Hopefully all newcomers have original movesets this time around.
The only real issue that I find with that notion... is that she wouldn't be an easy last-minute semi-clone. I am not sure about this, but semi-clones are most likely more difficult to develop (as opposed to dedicated clones). I suppose there is the Wolf argument to attenuate that premise; however, Toon Zelda would entail Toon Sheik (Tetra). Developing 2 semi-clones as opposed to just one is a little ludicrous. I think most people would prefer that we got interesting clones that people want to return, perhaps even a newcomer clone. Not only that, but once we do get Toon Zelda, what is to stop us from getting Toon Ganon? I hardly think he would be unnecessary if Toon Zelda made it into the game. I wouldn't put it past Sakurai though, he has certainly made bad decisions (in general) before. I mean... the only reason we are considering this premise is because Sakurai got drunk one night and decided to put Toon Zelda in the code.
 

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The only real issue that I find with that notion... is that she wouldn't be an easy last-minute semi-clone. I am not sure about this, but semi-clones are most likely more difficult to develop (as opposed to dedicated clones). I suppose there is the Wolf argument to attenuate that premise; however, Toon Zelda would entail Toon Sheik (Tetra). Developing 2 semi-clones as opposed to just one is a little ludicrous. I think most people would prefer that we got interesting clones that people want to return, perhaps even a newcomer clone. Not only that, but once we do get Toon Zelda, what is to stop us from getting Toon Ganon? I hardly think he would be unnecessary if Toon Zelda made it into the game. I wouldn't put it past Sakurai though, he has certainly made bad decisions (in general) before. I mean... the only reason we are considering this premise is because Sakurai got drunk one night and decided to put Toon Zelda in the code.
I assume that making 2 semi-clones would be the equivalent to making one completely unique character. Given there won't be a Subspace Emissary-like mode, freeing up a huge amount of time, money and effort, 12 unique characters (including Mega Man, Villager and the Wii Fit Trainer) and 3 semi clones in total for newcomers is a more realistic task to achieve than what many people give credit for.
 

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I imagine toon zelda being a resume of both sheik/zelda move set, but that also sound like lucas or ness which is not nice.
I will love her if she ends being a clone in scale anyways, but if is possible, just give her Darknut suit xD really, who wants a franchise composed of clones? thats not fun, i still cant believe they actually use WW toon link again.

Oh, and a trident too.
No tridents please, he is awesome right now.
 

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Given that we've already seen 18 roster reveals in the span of about 6 months, I am very curious as to the size of the final roster. Presumably Sakurai will continue revealing characters up until release to build hype, and we're already almost at Brawl's number of non-hidden characters. I'm growing increasingly convinced that we're going to get a decent amount of newcomers.

If we must get a new Zelda character, I could get behind Toon Zelda. I'd prefer Tetra as the alt rather than a Toon Sheik; Tetra would serve to make the character more unique.
 

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I remember back in the day when people were claiming Toon Sheik was definitely a nickname for Tetra, who would definitely be an original character alongside Mario's clone, Diddy's clone, Zelda's clone and Marth's clone (and Pikachu's two clones if you still buy that misconception). Good times.
 

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I remember back in the day when people were claiming Toon Sheik was definitely a nickname for Tetra, who would definitely be an original character alongside Mario's clone, Diddy's clone, Zelda's clone and Marth's clone (and Pikachu's two clones if you still buy that misconception). Good times.
so,
how was the clone wars?
was it a bad period of smash history?
 

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so,
how was the clone wars?
was it a bad period of smash history?
I wouldn't call it a "war".

It was just speculation and stuff from shortly after Brawl was released and hackers uncovered the files.
There was "Pra-Mai" and people wondering if it was Plusle & Minun or the random slot or something.

Young Link and Pichu weren't in the files, unlike the other removed Melee charcters, probably because there was already Toon Link and it would've been redundant to have two similar Link clones.

Pichu was also partially put in as a joke character, so that might've been why Sakurai didn't plan him.
And yes, I know about the "Brawl Pikachu is evolved Melee Pichu theory"

BKupa probably knows things that I don't about that time period, so he might tell you more.

it was more or less a star wars joke,
but thanks for the small history lesson mate
Oh **** me. I recognized the reference, but I thought you were being serious in asking.

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I wouldn't call it a "war".

It was just speculation and stuff from shortly after Brawl was released and hackers uncovered the files.
There was "Pra-Mai" and people wondering if it was Plusle & Minun or the random slot or something.

Young Link and Pichu weren't in the files, unlike the other removed Melee charcters, probably because there was already Toon Link and it would've been redundant to have two similar Link clones.

Pichu was also partially put in as a joke character, so that might've been why Sakurai didn't plan him.
And yes, I know about the "Brawl Pikachu is evolved Melee Pichu theory"

BKupa probably knows things that I don't about that time period, so he might tell you more.

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it was more or less a star wars joke,
but thanks for the small history lesson mate
 

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I disagree, with wind waker HD and her data being in brawl, she is likely to be in smash 4
Sakurai makes mistakes, that doesn't mean he'll do it again. There could be several excuses as to why Toon Zelda was planned like simply being filler. I can't really explain how she got in there, but I don't thinik she will again. I honestly think it's because Sakurai was experimenting, but having Toon Zelda is excessive and unnecessary beyond belief. What's next? Paper Luigi, Paper Peach, Toon Ganondorf, OOT Ganondorf, Adult OOT Link, Young OOT Link, Classic Link, CD-i Link, CD-i Zelda, CD-i Ganon. I think we made our point with Toon Link.

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IS THAT REAL!?
 

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Sakurai makes mistakes, that doesn't mean he'll do it again. There could be several excuses as to why Toon Zelda was planned like simply being filler. I can't really explain how she got in there, but I don't thinik she will again. I honestly think it's because Sakurai was experimenting, but having Toon Zelda is excessive and unnecessary beyond belief. What's next? Paper Luigi, Paper Peach, Toon Ganondorf, OOT Ganondorf, Adult OOT Link, Young OOT Link, Classic Link, CD-i Link, CD-i Zelda, CD-i Ganon. I think we made our point with Toon Link.



IS THAT REAL!?
CD-i characters would be too good
 

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Let's talk about....
Um...
UNREPRESENTED SERIES.
Yes, unrepresented series. This way we will never run out of series to talk about, and there are very few arguments to have.
Ah, peace on Smashboards.
 

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Sakurai makes mistakes, that doesn't mean he'll do it again. There could be several excuses as to why Toon Zelda was planned like simply being filler. I can't really explain how she got in there, but I don't thinik she will again. I honestly think it's because Sakurai was experimenting, but having Toon Zelda is excessive and unnecessary beyond belief. What's next? Paper Luigi, Paper Peach, Toon Ganondorf, OOT Ganondorf, Adult OOT Link, Young OOT Link, Classic Link, CD-i Link, CD-i Zelda, CD-i Ganon. I think we made our point with Toon Link.
You forgot CD-i Mario, CD-i Luigi, CD-i Peach, CD-i Bowser, and the Super Mario Brothers Show's cast (and the TLOZ cartoon series' cast)
 
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