Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[TumblrFamous]

I agree with what Scoliosis said. Almost all of your points were entirely subjective.

 

[?????????????]

Its nice that your getting worked up about this i dunno why, i'm just stating my opinions.

Hey, me too!

(This is totally my face right now. If I'm worked up, it's out of sheer joy).

If roy was in brawl i would say that chrom had a high chance.

But he isn't and I say roy beats him out, he's a mix of ike and marth i'd rather see roy utilize his sword of seals to his full potential than seeing something semi clone ish.

That's assuming Chrom would be "clonish" in the first place. That's a big assumption, and I disagree with it as an inevitability.

FYI: having a recent game doesn't doesn't qualify you to be in smash, paper mario had a recent game but are we getting paper mario? No. We'll see what happens but imo I don't think its going to be chrom, sure if i'm wrong your gonna rub it in, but if roy's in i'm not gonna say nothing, its best to end this now because I see that your an eager fan of chrom and will continue this forever, i'm not even a fan of roy but it makes more sense to me to pick roy instead of chrom for obvious reasons.

I like Chrom AND Roy. I like Fire Emblem. I like SSB.

And I never rub things into people's faces. That'd be rude.

...And my entire point of my last sentence in the previous post is that Chrom's qualification goes BEYOND having a recent game. He's a well-liked iconic character. It's not like Lucario's only qualification was being new. I supported Lucario's inclusion in Brawl too before he was announced.

1. He's more of a clone than roy is, roy was put in as a clone because sakurai wanted too, melee was really rushed.
2. The only thing going for him is that he's recent, as you can tell from some reveals, recency means nothing.
3. Sword of seals>some spear.
4. This is just an opinion, but I think he's going to bring roy back due to the fact he was planned for brawl, he's a probable high priority this time around, because they actually have time to work on his exciting moveset.

1. That's that same assumption.

2. First, you're again ignoring the fact that I actually LIKE Chrom as a character; more than just because he's recent. Recency also means at least enough for Ike, Lucario, and Lucas to be added as characters to SSBB, AND for Roy to be added in Melee.

3. ...The Falchion? Legendary blade? 'Bout as important as Roy's.

4. That's entirely possible. But my entire reason for arguing with you is because you're writing Chrom off, not because I don't think Roy stands a chance.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Hey Zero, I'm as much as a Roy supporter as you are, but your logic is pretty bad. Please try harder.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

I have a problem with this. If you aren't meaning to come across as biased, that's fine. But it sure looks like you are.

1. You have no way to say that Chrom is a clone at this point. There really is no reason to say that about Chrom when Roy was legitimately a clone of Marth.
2. Again, ignoring the popularity that Chrom has.
3. Chrom has the Falchion, can use fire just like Roy can, has access to several different weapons...etc...
4. Time will tell, but at this point there is no way of knowing. Why would he of all characters be high priority, and how do we know his moveset will be "exciting"?

I'm a big advocate of both characters, but if you're going to give reasons for a character, be fair about it.

Um I am being fair? I understand why people would want chrom, because its the first FE game they've played, recency etc. He's a boing character overrall, Ike had that badass feel about him, but I don't see why chrom is popular other than those 2 reasons above. Enlighten me if you have other reasons.

1. I'm saying he's a clone based on the game he's in, i'm not making assumptions here, if he's going to make a moveset based on awakening he's going to be a semi-clone, and he's not gonna do any second seals and such, he'll probably stick to the canon great lord class, not some random dread fighter.

3. I don't remember chrom using fire ever in awakening, his sword just deals extra dmg to dragons and glows. marth already has the legendary falchion pizza.
4. Agreed

There's no need to jump on someone just because they think differently, come on.

 

[TumblrFamous]

Hey Zero, I'm as much as a Roy supporter as you are, but your logic is pretty bad. Please try harder.

I view it as such: whoever gets in gets in. I would like Roy more, but Chrom still stands a very good chance. If Sakurai looks at polls as a major source for adding newcomers, than Roy is certainly plausible and likely. However, that doesn't mean Chrom has no chance whatsoever. They're both plausible and probable.

There's no need to jump on someone just because they think differently, come on.

People are "jumping" on you because they want more feasible evidence to why Chrom will hardly be considered for this game.

 

[?????????????]

Um I am being fair?

He's a boing character overrall

Yeah, see...there's where the contradiction is.

You're assuming my only reason for liking Chrom is recency. That's not fair.

 

[NickerBocker]

Before I state my point, I like both Chrom and Roy and in the end it doesnt matter to me who makes it in.

Would anyone want Roy if he wasnt in melee? I mean seriously, most of the time we disregard every other lord just because they arent the most recent, and if Roy ended up not being a clone in melee, no one would care about him.

The main edge he has is that people request him and he was in a previous installment. If he wasnt added to promote the next FE game that came out, he wouldnt even be considered

 

[TumblrFamous]

Before I state my point, I like both Chrom and Roy and in the end it doesnt matter to me who makes it in.

Would anyone want Roy if he wasnt in melee? I mean seriously, most of the time we disregard every other lord just because they arent the most recent, and if Roy ended up not being a clone in melee, no one would care about him.

The main edge he has is that people request him and he was in a previous installment. If he wasnt added to promote the next FE game that came out, he wouldnt even be considered

Oh, certainly. Still, he has credibility because of that, so he's still plausible.

 

[Autumn ♫]

I find myself odd as a spectator, Awakening was my first FE game, but yet I don't really support Chrom very much.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

Yeah, see...there's where the contradiction is.

You're assuming my only reason for liking Chrom is recency. That's not fair.

then why do you like him?

 

[Hotfeet444]

Could you tell me what proof we have that Mewtwo was going to be in Subspace Emissary?

It was a screenshot of a cutscene featuring Mewtwo:

 

[Autumn ♫]

It was a screenshot of a cutscene featuring Mewtwo:

Where did you find that at? It looks really cool actually.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Where did you find that at? It looks really cool actually.

Smash Bros Wiki.

By the way...I added you on 3DS, and my God, your Friend Safari gave me LAMPENTS! Now I can get the ultimate Chandelure!

 

[TumblrFamous]

You know what I'm liking (trying to start a new conversation)? Sakurai is making all the human playable characters like 100% more attractive. Expect to be babammed by Zelda and Zero Suit Samus.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Um I am being fair? I understand why people would want chrom, because its the first FE game they've played, recency etc. He's a boing character overrall, Ike had that badass feel about him, but I don't see why chrom is popular other than those 2 reasons above. Enlighten me if you have other reasons.

1. I'm saying he's a clone based on the game he's in, i'm not making assumptions here, if he's going to make a moveset based on awakening he's going to be a semi-clone, and he's not gonna do any second seals and such, he'll probably stick to the canon great lord class, not some random dread fighter.

3. I don't remember chrom using fire ever in awakening, his sword just deals extra dmg to dragons and glows.
4. Agreed

There's no need to jump on someone just because they think differently, come on.

I'm not jumping on you for not agreeing with me. I'm criticizing your points because you have literally zero proof to back any of them up.

I know I've seen/heard it somewhere that Chrom has fire but I can't think of where. Nor can I find it. But I could've swore he could.

Just because he is designed after Marth and Ike doesn't mean he is destined to be a clone. Roy wasn't designed after Marth, and yet he was a clone.

 

[Knight Dude]

Roy/Chrom, and how you would represent the Pokemon franchise in all 4 games.

Oh, Okay then.

64: Pikachu and Mewtwo
Melee: Pikachu, Mewtwo(or Jiggs), and Pokemon Trainer(Johto)
Brawl: Pikachu, Mewtwo(or Jiggs), Pokemon Trainer (Hoenn),and Lucario
SSB4: Pikachu, Mewtwo(or Jiggs), Pokemon Trainer (Unova or Kalos),and Lucario

 

[XStarWarriorX]

I'm not jumping on you for not agreeing with me. I'm criticizing your points because you have literally zero proof to back any of them up.

I know I've seen/heard it somewhere that Chrom has fire but I can't think of where. Nor can I find it. But I could've swore he could.

Just because he is designed after Marth and Ike doesn't mean he is destined to be a clone. Roy wasn't designed after Marth, and yet he was a clone.

But dude if I go by what your saying, no one has proof that chrom will be in the game either and they can't back it up as well, this is all meaningless speculation and are pure assumptions.

Really? cause I could have sworn there was no fire at all with his sword.

Because roy was supposed to be a clone because that's what sakurai wanted, melee was rushed. Sure chrom could be decloned but you need to be true to the character as well you know, and its gonna be harder to declone a chrom instead of a roy based on the games they starred in.

 

[?????????????]

then why do you like him?

In a lot of ways, I do like Chrom because of his game. In my opinion, Awakening was a huge milestone for the series, and it has a lot of concepts that could be referenced in SSB through a character like Chrom, such as Dual Support.

Now this by itself would not be exclusive to Chrom; some people bring up the Avatar as a newcomer, and I really like that idea as well. It could be more unique moveset-wise. But I do think that Chrom stands a better chance at this as the main lord, and a more set character than the Avatar...although the Avatar may have an advantage if it comes to representing My Unit/Tactician from previous games (Fire Emblem in general).

I like the way Chrom works as a character. Despite being Marth's descendant, he acts AND fights in a contrasting way. He still leads, but it's more by example than by diplomacy. As such, his fighting style is much more straightforward, athletic, and, I think, "gladitorial".

Some might view it as a blend of Marth and Ike, but I think it's something new. No matter how similar two people's weapons are, they're different enough in how they use it; one of my favorite fighting games, Soul Caliber, shows this off very well. I think Chrom's playstyle is contrasting enough from Marth's and Ike's to be new AND fun. While the Avatar would add other elements, like magic, which would be cool, I think it would also be fun to jump and flip around the way Chrom does in cutscenes in Awakening.

The way he leads, his own backstory, and the way he fights differentiate him from any previous Fire Emblem lord, and I like the way he is in this way. He also does not cease to be an effective unit in Awakening; Roy, in my experience, takes a bit of time to grow on you, while Chrom is always helpful.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Smash Bros Wiki.

By the way...I added you on 3DS, and my God, your Friend Safari gave me LAMPENTS! Now I can get the ultimate Chandelure!

You have a Swadloon, Oddish, and Maractus. What do I have? Besides Lampent You lucky beep, I love Chandelure.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

What has Roy done since getting cut that gives him ANY edge over Chrom?

Well, he wasn't the main character in the most overrated FE game ever

 

[Depressed Gengar]

You know what I'm liking (trying to start a new conversation)? Sakurai is making all the human playable characters like 100% more attractive. Expect to be babammed by Zelda and Zero Suit Samus.

I know you wanna look up Peach's dress...

 

[TumblrFamous]

I know you wanna look up Peach's dress...

I'm serious, though. I mean, obviously, I have no attraction to video game characters, but they're looking less gritty and overall better-looking. So far, Marth and Peach look the best. Zelda will look amazing.

Can't we just talk about how all the characters on the roster look right now?

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

In a lot of ways, I do like Chrom because of his game. In my opinion, Awakening was a huge milestone for the series, and it has a lot of concepts that could be referenced in SSB through a character like Chrom, such as Dual Support.

Now this by itself would not be exclusive to Chrom; some people bring up the Avatar as a newcomer, and I really like that idea as well. It could be more unique moveset-wise. But I do think that Chrom stands a better chance at this as the main lord, and a more set character than the Avatar...although the Avatar may have an advantage if it comes to representing My Unit/Tactician from previous games (Fire Emblem in general).

I like the way Chrom works as a character. Despite being Marth's descendant, he acts AND fights in a contrasting way. He still leads, but it's more by example than by diplomacy. As such, his fighting style is much more straightforward, athletic, and, I think, "gladitorial".

Some might view it as a blend of Marth and Ike, but I think it's something new. No matter how similar two people's weapons are, they're different enough in how they use it; one of my favorite fighting games, Soul Caliber, shows this off very well. I think Chrom's playstyle is contrasting enough from Marth's and Ike's to be new AND fun. While the Avatar would add other elements, like magic, which would be cool, I think it would also be fun to jump and flip around the way Chrom does in cutscenes in Awakening.

The way he leads, his own backstory, and the way he fights differentiate him from any previous Fire Emblem lord, and I like the way he is in this way. He also does not cease to be an effective unit in Awakening; Roy, in my experience, takes a bit of time to grow on you, while Chrom is always helpful.

Pretty much this for me as well.

I think Marth and Ike are necessary for Smash because they represent two extremes: Royalty and Those who aren't.

Chrom is a mix of the two, and I think it is a meaningful creation. So what if he was designed after Marth and Ike? He's still different.

It's like saying identical twins are automatically the same. Although in this case, they aren't identical either. There are enough differences that the similarities really aren't a big deal if you ask me.

If this conversation turns into a flame war (as all Fire Emblem debates do) I have a guaranteed strategy to get it to stop.

 

[Hotfeet444]

You have a Swadloon, Oddish, and Maractus. What do I have? Besides Lampent You lucky beep, I love Chandelure.

Pumpkaboo.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I'm serious, though. I mean, obviously, I have no attraction to video game characters, but they're looking less gritty and overall better-looking. So far, Marth and Peach look the best. Zelda will look amazing.

Can't we just talk about how all the characters on the roster look right now?

The day I see Ness very handsome.. oh boy what spectacle it will bring.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

In a lot of ways, I do like Chrom because of his game. In my opinion, Awakening was a huge milestone for the series, and it has a lot of concepts that could be referenced in SSB through a character like Chrom, such as Dual Support.

Now this by itself would not be exclusive to Chrom; some people bring up the Avatar as a newcomer, and I really like that idea as well. It could be more unique moveset-wise. But I do think that Chrom stands a better chance at this as the main lord, and a more set character than the Avatar...although the Avatar may have an advantage if it comes to representing My Unit/Tactician from previous games (Fire Emblem in general).

I like the way Chrom works as a character. Despite being Marth's descendant, he acts AND fights in a contrasting way. He still leads, but it's more by example than by diplomacy. As such, his fighting style is much more straightforward, athletic, and, I think, "gladitorial".

Some might view it as a blend of Marth and Ike, but I think it's something new. No matter how similar two people's weapons are, they're different enough in how they use it; one of my favorite fighting games, Soul Caliber, shows this off very well. I think Chrom's playstyle is contrasting enough from Marth's and Ike's to be new AND fun. While the Avatar would add other elements, like magic, which would be cool, I think it would also be fun to jump and flip around the way Chrom does in cutscenes in Awakening.

The way he leads, his own backstory, and the way he fights differentiate him from any previous Fire Emblem lord, and I like the way he is in this way. He also does not cease to be an effective unit in Awakening; Roy, in my experience, takes a bit of time to grow on you, while Chrom is always helpful.

Fair enough. However, dual support might have technical issues, tbh if it wasn't for the lords i would think the tactician would have a good shot imo. but even though people like him its up to sakurai to see if he differentiates himself from the cast, based on what i've played in awakening in my opinion he does not. I've played FE6 and to me roy has better potential, but again its my opinion. But we shall see.

 

[TumblrFamous]

If this conversation turns into a flame war (as all Fire Emblem debates do) I have a guaranteed strategy to get it to stop.

And that strategy is...?

 

[Opossum]

Um I am being fair? I understand why people would want chrom, because its the first FE game they've played, recency etc. He's a boing character overrall, Ike had that badass feel about him, but I don't see why chrom is popular other than those 2 reasons above. Enlighten me if you have other reasons.

I personally liked Chrom on account of relatability, personally. Generally honorable, cares for his friends, and puts others before himself, but struggles to keep feeling strong when faced with the crisis of losing a family member (and almost an entire halidom, for that matter), and yet perseveres. The kind of guy who I'd have a beer with if I were the legal drinking age and had any taste for alcohol.

Generally, you not being able to see other's opinions in spite of your own, it seems. You may think he's boring over all, but I sure don't. Differs from person to person, y'know?

1. I'm saying he's a clone based on the game he's in, i'm not making assumptions here, if he's going to make a moveset based on awakening he's going to be a semi-clone, and he's not gonna do any second seals and such, he'll probably stick to the canon great lord class, not some random dread fighter.

But once again, you are making assumptions. He's not in Smash yet, so you have no way of knowing that he'd be a clone. And there are plenty of movesets around. Just check out the Chrom thread shamelessplugbutitcoulduseabump. My moveset in the OP, for instance, takes on the possibility of a stance mechanic for a weapon switch, showcasing the strategic aspect of the series, as well as some more of the weapon triangle, with the stance changing the recommended play-style. And that's only using the Lord>Great Lord class sets.

3. I don't remember chrom using fire ever in awakening, his sword just deals extra dmg to dragons and glows. marth already has the legendary falchion pizza.

It was in a cutscene, though I admit this was pretty minor.

 

[NickerBocker]

I know you wanna look up Peach's dress...

Dont forget, it will be HD

That will probably be a screenshot pretty soon

 

[TumblrFamous]

Dont forget, it will be HD

That will probably be a screenshot pretty soon

Would he be allowed to do that?

 

[Knight Dude]

I'm serious, though. I mean, obviously, I have no attraction to video game characters, but they're looking less gritty and overall better-looking. So far, Marth and Peach look the best. Zelda will look amazing.

Can't we just talk about how all the characters on the roster look right now?

Megaman and Samus have pretty beastly looking armor. The Mario Bros' mustaches are on that next level son! Though like you said, I wanna see Zelda in HD. But I also want to see Ganondorf beat the crap outta Link in HD too.

But Most of all, HD Falcon Punch! The world needs it.

 

[?????????????]

And that strategy is...?

Well, I have to go grocery shopping. I'm out of breakfast cereal and bagels...and that's pretty much what I eat!

...I do have plenty of pizzas left though.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Pumpkaboo.

That's it? I thought you usually have 3.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

And that strategy is...?

Report me and get my ass banned

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

And that strategy is...?

I can't simply divulge that information. It's too...powerful.

@Zero

I wouldn't report you for that. You didn't do anything wrong or insulting. But what I would do is far far worse than anything you could imagine.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

I'm serious, though. I mean, obviously, I have no attraction to video game characters, but they're looking less gritty and overall better-looking. So far, Marth and Peach look the best. Zelda will look amazing.

Can't we just talk about how all the characters on the roster look right now?

NO.
Chrom and Roy argument FTW.
I'd almost say "Why not both" but I remembered Ike so...

 

[BluePikmin11]

Chrom with beachwear should be an alt. costume.

 

[NickerBocker]

Would he be allowed to do that?

One word. Sideboob.

I was actually thinking about a character looking up her dress while she does her side a, not the actual picture of her up skirt

 

[Robert of Normandy]

I dislike Chrom because he's an idiot.

"Hey gaiz let's go fight Plegia and kill their leader, then completely forget about them for about a year. I'm sure nothing will go wrong."

"Oh hey this obviously evil guy who somehow became Plegia's ruler and is making all their citizens worship an evil god sure does remind me of that guy who tried to kill my sister. HM GEE I WONDER."

inb4 this thread turn into me just complaining about things in FE13 I don't like

 

[XStarWarriorX]

I can't simply divulge that information. It's too...powerful.

@Zero

I wouldn't report you for that. You didn't do anything wrong or insulting. But what I would do is far far worse than anything you could imagine.

Lemme guess you'll kidnap me and force me to hang out with bluepikmin ..... D: or hack me lulz.