~ROB Stage Discussion~ Now on: Smashville

[GwJ]

I didn't see any stage discussions and the search function is bugging out again, so here we go.

I know that I, as well as other ROBs would do much better if we knew the exact strengths and weaknesses we have on each stage. We need to know not to take Ike to FD just because you have room to camp.

What do you guys want to start on?

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Battlefield

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Final Destination

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Smashville

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Yoshi's Island

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Castle Siege

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Delfino

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Halberd

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Lylat Cruise

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Pokémon Stadium 1

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Brinstar

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Corneria

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Distant Planet

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Counterclockwise spin

Frigate Orpheon

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Green Hill Zone

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Jungle Japes

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Luigi's Mansion

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Norfair

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Pictochat

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Pirate Ship

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Pokémon Stadium 2

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Rainbow Cruise

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Yoshi's Island (Pipes)
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[jjvirus]

Isnt this the same thing as the one thats stickied......?

 

[Nintendevil]

*sees robotic counter picking at the top of the page.*

 

[CJTHeroofTime]

*clicks on and reads robotic counterpicking on the top of the page.*

Edit: Actually now that I think about it, the CP discussion is just covering about five stages in all. I think we should make a stage discussion directory (like Sudai did with character matchups) and discuss stages weekly. I mean, the CP thread is good for knowing what stages to CP with and how to utilize them effectively, but some threads discussing strategies on some of ROBs worse stages would be useful as well.

 

[Commander_Beef]

Umm, I don't think you put text for the pros and cons. -_-

 

[CJTHeroofTime]

Umm, I don't think you put text for the pros and cons. -_-

Yeah, because he expects a discussion before he edits it.

 

[GwJ]

*clicks on and reads robotic counterpicking on the top of the page.*

Edit: Actually now that I think about it, the CP discussion is just covering about five stages in all. I think we should make a stage discussion directory (like Sudai did with character matchups) and discuss stages weekly. I mean, the CP thread is good for knowing what stages to CP with and how to utilize them effectively, but some threads discussing strategies on some of ROBs worse stages would be useful as well.

This.

We need to discuss more than ROB's useful counterpicks.

 

[CJTHeroofTime]

I mentioned this to Sudai, I figure if he feels its worth pursuing it will be done, or appointed to someone. I wouldn't mind making this thread/directory thing, but I'd like a go-ahead, you know?

 

[GwJ]

I guess we should just wait and see if Sudai thinks we should keep it. This thread would be so useful to me and a lot of ROBs too. =/

 

[JCaesar]

I think all these stage threads could easily be combined into one.

 

[CJTHeroofTime]

I'm'a make a directory now. Sudai said he'll sticky it and stuff. Yeah.

 

[Mr.E]

Personally, I think a separate stage thread is silly anyway. They can be discussed when it comes to the character match-ups, since stage choice is dependent on your opponent.

 

[GwJ]

Still, we need to get to know which stages we can rely on other than our favorite counterpicks. Currently, only those that do a lot of matches against a variety of characters know that.

 

[Cubone]

Can one of these really help that much? When it boils down the stages for ROB is all about who you are fighting. If you need space to camp, try FD or Japes (especially if they kill off the top typically) something for characters that outcamp you is basically smashville(I'd prefer battlefield myself but eh) or Frigate. Cruise and Frigate also **** poor recoveries.

ROB can perform decent on just about any stage, its all about him knowing which stage will remove his opponents advantage thus it should be with match up discussion.

 

[GwJ]

Well yea. But some people don't really know the strengths they have on stages. Some don't choose Japes because they don't know why it helps them.

Either way, we're discussing Smashville.

 

[Sudai]

Meh, I still like the way my chart laid it out, but I couldn't get enough people discussing to flesh it out.

Chart based per character, saying what stages to gravitate to and which stages to avoid with reasons why. I'm thinking about dredging it up and letting the community vote on which Stage thread they want or if they don't want one at all. >.o

 

[GwJ]

Yea, I know. There was hardly anybody on at all for the past few days.

 

[ZOM~B]

Smashville

I like this stage overall. It's relatively large for camping. If you're stuck on the ledge with little fuel, just play it safe and wait for the platform (I often do this against FSmash spacing Lucarios). You can fly under it if you need to, but there's not anything particularily obstructive in between. Your opponent will probably just be able to run to the other ledge. Still you can do this depending on the platform's location.

Try not to get caught on the platform. I only stand on it if it's off the stage. Watch out for an approach from below... but if they do you can run off the far edge of the platform and bair. It's not likely to kill since it's firing the wrong way, but it will protect you. And if they want to chase you further, odds are the platforms going to leave and it's going to end up being very dangerous for them.

When the platform is over me, uptilt works great. I don't have a lot of luck with upsmash there, so I normally just uptilt -> upair.

 

[Nintendevil]

SV is easily the most neutral stage in the game. This is good because ROB is FAIRLY rounded. While platforms may hurt him, they also help because he can poke through them well, the only downside being that it moves, but it also allows a new place for laser bouncing and Gyros to spin. If ROB is stuck without gas on a ledge, he can just wait for the platform to move over to him.

A little thing great about this stage is when you throw a gyro up, and it lands on the platform, it will bounce a bit, and the platform moves from underneath the gyro and it falls onto opponents. Nice range too, good for camping.

 

[Cubone]

Meh, I still like the way my chart laid it out, but I couldn't get enough people discussing to flesh it out.

Chart based per character, saying what stages to gravitate to and which stages to avoid with reasons why. I'm thinking about dredging it up and letting the community vote on which Stage thread they want or if they don't want one at all. >.o

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=196732

If this was what you were talking about I vote for it

 

[JCaesar]

I honestly think that, if finished, that would be the most useful thread on the ROB forums. But no one ever contributed, so it died.

<- guilty :/

 

[Sudai]

Locking this and opening a poll to see which stage discussion should stay.