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RMT... again... a help me out... *update* First page updated

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Okay, the other RMT got too crowded and I'm makin a new 1 now.

Swellow/Hikari @ Flame Orb
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252attk/252spd/4def
Guts

Brave Bird
U-Turn
Return
Supersonic/Agility

Weavile/ Yoruichii @Life Orb/Choice Scarf
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252attk/252spd/4Hp

Night Slash
Ice Punch
Aerial Ace
Brick Break

Metagross @Muscle Band/Salac Berry
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252attk/252spdef/4spd

Bullet Punch
Meteor Mash
EQ
Explosion

Lopunny/Lopilily @Choice Scarf
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252attk/252spd/4Hp
Ability: Cute Charm

Bounce
Jump Kick
Ice Punch
Return

Leafeon/Hinatoru @Salac Berry
Impish Nature
EVs: 252def/124attk/124spdef/8spd

Substitute
Swords Dance
Leaf Blade
Baton Pass

Dusknoir @Leties
Adamant Nature
EVs:252attk/124def/124spdef/8spd

Shadow Sneak
EQ
Ice Punch
T-Punch/Brick Break

Will add explanations later. Rate away.
 
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I'm not making a RMT of my own because you just made one. Remember wii always made RMTs at the same time?

ILoveCelebi!!208 said:
Okay, the other RMT got too crowded and I'm makin a new 1 now.

Porygon Z *Shiny* @Life Orb
Modest Nature
EVs: 252spattk/252spdef/4spd
Ability: Adaptivity

Charge Beam
Ice Beam
Tri Attack
Agility/Shadow Ball/ Psychic

It should have more Speed EVs.

Weavile/ Yoruichii @ Choice Scarf
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252attk/252spd/4Hp

Night Slash
Ice Punch
Aerial Ace
Brick Break

Good, as always...

Metagross @ Shuca Berry
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252attk/252spdef/4spd

Bullet Punch
Meteor Mash
EQ
Explosion

Good.

Lopunny/ Rukia @Lefties
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252attk/252spd/4Hp
Ability: Cute Charm

Substitute
Focus Punch
Ice Punch
Return

Looks good.

Leafeon/Hinatoru @Salac Berry
Impish Nature
EVs: 252def/124Hp/124spdef/8spd

Substitute
Swords Dance
Wish
Baton Pass

Good.

Froslass/Mystic @Focus Sash
Modest Nature
EVs: 252spattk/252spd/4Hp

Shadow Ball
T-Wave
T-Bolt
Ice Beam

Good. I'd take away Shadow Ball for something, but I don't know what Froslass knows. >_<

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Dude, you have a big Fire weakness. 4 Pokes weak and no resist...

7/10 :ohwell:

Until wii meet again,
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how bout destiny bond on fross

and... is your weavy really going over 380 in attack??
 
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ILoveCelebi!!208 said:
Okay, the other RMT got too crowded and I'm makin a new 1 now.

Porygon Z *Shiny* @Life Orb
Modest Nature
EVs: 252spattk/252spdef/4spd
Ability: Adaptivity

Charge Beam
Ice Beam
Tri Attack
Agility/Shadow Ball/ Psychic
tbh, I'd like to see Nasty Plot over Charge Beam, it being more reliable, but if it works it works. Also switch those spdef EVs to speed, PoryZ isn't really going to be taking a hit anyway.

Weavile/ Yoruichii @ Choice Scarf
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252attk/252spd/4Hp

Night Slash
Ice Punch
Aerial Ace
Brick Break
This confuses me a bit, actually. Weavile already has 125 base speed, it seems like kind of a waste to Scarf it. With this set Choice Band would probably be a better choice (lol) to let it hit harder.

Metagross @ Shuca Berry
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252attk/252spdef/4spd

Bullet Punch
Meteor Mash
EQ
Explosion
Shuca Berry seems kind of out of place. There's no reason for Metagross to stay in on a Pokemon with EQ anyway. Again, without a stat up move Choice Band would be better. Or you could replace a move with Agility, Agiligross is a pretty good set if it can set up. Also, I'd really rather see those EVs in speed instead of special defense. Meta can already take a hit fairly well, and all it needs to worry about are walls, really, which won't do significant damage.

Lopunny/ Rukia @Lefties
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252attk/252spd/4Hp
Ability: Cute Charm

Substitute
Focus Punch
Ice Punch
Return
Ah, Lopunny. SubPunching does rule, but there are better Pokemon for it. Breloom, for example. But if you really want to stay with Lopunny it's your choice.

Leafeon/Hinatoru @Salac Berry
Impish Nature
EVs: 252def/124Hp/124spdef/8spd

Substitute
Swords Dance
Wish
Baton Pass
Ehhhh... again, there are better Baton Passers around. Although really, I'd prefer that this and your 6th pokemon are walls: you don't really have any good ones at all. If you want to keep Leafy your 6th Pokemon could be a mixed wall Cressy, but it's rather risky.

6th Poke- Need Choice...

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There, it needs a bit of work IMO.
 
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it's hard to decide upon choice band or choice scarf for weavile

certain pokemon with type advantages, like aerodactyl, are faster than it..........but then again, it's max attack isn't THAT spectacular when compared to some other pokemon

in the long run, i would say that your weavile is better off with choice band

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metagross doesn't need 2 steel moves........agility seems to be 1 of the most favored moves for him anways........or you could go for attack diversity, and teach it hammer arm or zen headbutt (gains stab)

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on porygon, replace charge beam with nasty plot

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don't teach focus punch to lopunny.......sure, it would SEEM like a good combination to use with substitute, but what it really does is give the opponent a chance to switch out to a pokemon with a type advantage to lopunny, and a resistance to focus punch

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leafeon is 1 of like 5 pokemon that can learn leaf blade..............why aren't you teaching that to it?!?!

i would totally revamp him, if i were you : leaf blade, quick attack, curse, and wish

his speed is under what you should have for a sweeper anyway........and his attack needs boosting...........but swords dance and baton pass would just be a waste for him

besides, quick attack would allow him to attack 1st, even after a few curses
 
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Here's the deal, Leafeon has a 394 max def and a 310-something max attack, just because Leaf Blade is a rare move doesn't mean I need it.

Bullet Punch is for Baton Passers and Sweepers like Weavile and Ninjask. I really don't like agiligross when Bullet Punch makes it move first.

I've been doing some battles recently and figured out which items work best-

Weavile- Focus Sash

Metagross- Choice Band

Lopunny- Chople Berry/ Life Orb

Porygon Z- Silk Scarf

Leafeon- Yache Berry

The 6th poke will be-

Salamence @Choice Scarf
Lonely Nature
EVs: 252attk/252spattk/4 spd

Draco Meteor
EQ
Fire Fang
Hydro Pump

If someone can suggest something better please tell me and oh, NO BLISSEYS!
 
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i don't like agili-gross either........i was suggesting ALL the possibilities that would make sense

i wouldn't teach hydro pump to salamence...........nothing against it............i just don't trust the accuracy of that move

oh........i'm no berry expert, so could you tell me what some of the berries you mentioned do?
 
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20% Chance of missing... Oh, and BTW, who'd expect Lopunny to be a sweeper in the first place? Most people will use Taunt then, Lopunny gets off a SubPunch.

Salac Berry- Raise Speed when HP gets to 1/4.

Yache Berry- Lowers the power of Ice Attacks.

Chople Berry- " " Fighting attacks.
 
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ILoveCelebi!!208 said:
20% Chance of missing... Oh, and BTW, who'd expect Lopunny to be a sweeper in the first place? Most people will use Taunt then, Lopunny gets off a SubPunch.

Salac Berry- Raise Speed when HP gets to 1/4.

Yache Berry- Lowers the power of Ice Attacks.

Chople Berry- " " Fighting attacks.
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yeah....good point, lol
 
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Choice Scarf Mence is certainly a surprise, although without any speed EVs, you won't have a hugely bigger speed. Life Orb might be a better choice. Think, what does Salamence really need to outspeed anyway? The things that counter him, bascially, are walls and fast pokemon with dragon or ice moves. Well, with a mixed set, you already have walls covered, but vs speedier Pokemon you don't have much of a chance at 100 base speed.
 
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:yoshi: There's too much attacking on this team, and barely any sturdiness or utility.

The attacking doesn't even have to be toned down, but consider some different types of moves. Get Pursuit running here somewhere. Lopunny and Leafeon, I think, make excellent utility Pokémon, but Leafeon in particular has the unique ability to support or even attack on its own with its very respectable base attack, should it have to. I highly recommend giving it something to use as an attack. Switch up its EVs a bit--focus much more on its defense, speed, and attack. Leafeon has a pretty nice stat distribution--he makes a nice switch into EQ Metagross and sets up nicely for whoever he chooses to Baton Pass to.

As for Lopunny, you have to abuse her great speed and maybe give her some status to toss around. She can change weather, poison, paralyze, trade items, and lots of other great stuff. Sure, she learns lots of elemental and fighting moves, but as a normal type, she can't really use attacking to any real lengths; normals typically have above average special defense and Lopunny is no exception. You can even run Mirror Coat for a nasty surprise if you want. Just something to consider.

Pump Porygon-Z full of speed and special attack. He needs nothing more, nothing less. If you're not going to run Nasty Plot, you'll probably want to use a Life Orb. I really don't recommend using Choice Scarf or Choice Specs unless you're running Hyper Beam and blasting your opposition away. The thing about Adaptability that you have to understand is that if it hits with Tri-Attack, that's basically a non-STAB super effective blow you've landed. Everything else is for resists (Hidden Powers for Rhyperior, Bastiodon, etc.), immunities (Dark Pulse for Gengar, Dusknoir, Spiritomb, Giratina, etc.), and 4x weaks (Thunderbolt for Gyarados, Ice Beam for dragon types, Signal Beam for random Darks/Psychics). What I'm trying to say is that you need to pick a move for him and focus the rest of your moveset around that move, then consider what else your team is hitting for SE or neutral (at least), and then take a last look.

Just some stuff to consider.

Bloshi, play me in D/P. I didn't know you played.
 
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:yoshi: I should probably comment on Pokémon with which I have no practical battle experience.

That sounds like a good idea.
 
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Ok, I'm taking off Mence for a Shiny, Adamant T-Tar with 31 attack IVs (You're not the only one Fluffy!) and Leafeon will get Leaf Blade over Wish, and will share 124attk EVs with it HP or, I'll just get an Adamant/Jolly Aerodactyl.
 
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ILoveCelebi!!208 said:
Ok, I'm taking off Mence for a Shiny, Adamant T-Tar with 31 attack IVs (You're not the only one Fluffy!) and Leafeon will get Leaf Blade over Wish, and will share 124attk EVs with it HP or, I'll just get an Adamant/Jolly Aerodactyl.
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But only Metagross is immune to Sandstorm then. It could severely cut the small sturdiness your team has.

Heracross could also rip your team to shreds. Megahorn kills Weavile and Leafeon, while Close Combat kills Porygon-Z, Weavile, Lopunny and Tyranitar. Otherwise, you have a Fire, Fighting and Bug weakness. You have a resist to Fire, though, but not to Fighting or Bug.

Until wii meet again,
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Small Bump*

EDIT- Added new team-

T-Tar * Shiny @Choice Scarf/Band/
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252attk/80def/168spd/8spdef

EQ
Dragon Claw
Rock Slide
Crunch

My starter, T-tar gets a spdef boost from the sandstorm and can deliver some fatal blows with this moveset. EQ is what all T-Tars need, Dragon Claw is for those pesky Dragonites and Garchomps. If I predict a Heracross using Close Combat, I'll switch to Dusknoir. Because almost ALL Heracrosses will be, Jolly holding a Toxic Orb, Jolly Choice Band or Adamant a Choice Scarf.

Weavile/ Yoruichii @ Life Orb
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252attk/252spd/4Hp

Night Slash
Ice Punch
Aerial Ace
Brick Break

Nothing much for Weavile at the moment, she'll outspeed some of those other Weaviles, but will GET outran too, actually, she's really just my Trump Card when things get hot.

Metagross @ Choice Band
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252attk/252spdef/4spd

Bullet Punch
Meteor Mash
EQ
Explosion

CB+ Stabbed Bullet Punch will help Meta out the most, Meta will be switched in and out with T-Tar when I predict a fighting move and T-Tar will get switched in when I predict a Fire move.

Lopunny/ Rukia @Focus Sash
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252attk/252spd/4Hp
Ability: Cute Charm

Rain Dance
Focus Punch
Ice Punch
Return

No one sees the inner sweeper in Lopunny but me, she'll get switched in ONLY if there's a CS/CSpecs Gengar countering Dusknoir or when Meta and T-tar both go down and I'm left with nothing but a Sandstorm, Lopunny can outspeed some pokes and use Rain Dance to cancel out the sandstorm can halven the Fire Attacks used just making my team mpore resistant to its weaknesses.

Leafeon/Hinatoru @Salac Berry
Impish Nature
EVs: 252def/124attk/124spd/8spdef

Substitute
Swords Dance
Leaf Blade/ Grasswhistle
Baton Pass

After taking some things in, I gave Leafeon Leaf Blade because its move pool still makes it Steel Rapable either way.

Dusknoir/Hollow#971 @Lefties
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252attk/124spdef/124def/8spd

Shadow Sneak
EQ
Ice Punch
T-Punch
 
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THAT team has a weakness to Fire, Fighting, and Bug.

Choice Scarf Heracross or Infernape could demolish this team, but of course, prediction can help.

Who puts Focus Sash on Tyranitar? It has better things to do than stay in on something that destroys it and surprise them by surviving, but, thus, limiting it's sweeping later in the match.

Until wii meet again,
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Wii4Mii 99 said:
THAT team has a weakness to Fire, Fighting, and Bug.

Choice Scarf Heracross or Infernape could demolish this team, but of course, prediction can help.

Who puts Focus Sash on Tyranitar? It has better things to do than stay in on something that destroys it and surprise them by surviving, but, thus, limiting it's sweeping later in the match.

Until wii meet again,
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I predict a Close Combat or Megahorn from CS Hera and switch to Dusknoir, if EQ, Noir will take the hit and I'll switch to Leafeon, Sub and Baton Passes when Hera gets swithced out.
Fire goes to T-Tar and Noir and bug goes to Noir.

I'll take the FS from t-tar and give it a Choice Band or Scarf.
 
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Celebi, your whole team's physical. Change some of the pokemon in your team so you have at least 2 pokemon special-orientiaed.
 
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