Smash Wii U Release Dates Confirmed!! NA: 11/21/14 EU: 12/05/14 JP: 12/06/14

[Petro]

Why is the release date so far apart for the US and Australia. Australia gets every game last

 

[Storm Eagle]

Why is the release date so far apart for the US and Australia. Australia gets every game last

You get the new 3DS months before anybody else.

 

[Petro]

You get the new 3DS months before anybody else.

I never mentioned the 3DS

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Why is the release date so far apart for the US and Australia. Australia gets every game last

Because the animals there are just that dangerous. They have to send in mercenaries disguised as mailmen to get you stuff.

 

[the8thark]

You get the new 3DS months before anybody else.

Smash WiiU has nothing to do with this. We're talking SSB for WiiU and the non NA people have every right to be salty.

Why is the release date so far apart for the US and Australia. Australia gets every game last

Not so. We in Australia got Hyrule warriors before the EU and NA. Still a moth after JP though. And Australia gets Captain Toad in 2015, weeks after NA. Australia does get shafted with game release dates and prices most times (but not all times). We have the right to feel salty about this.

The NA people don't understand what we go through, as it doesn't happen to them. Well I guess the few NA people compassionate enough to actually care for everyone would understand, but those are the minority of the NA people.

 

[Smash_Veteran_Amtoj]

It's a great time to be in North America.

 

[the8thark]

It's a great time to be in North America.

How many more of these "getting Smash two weeks early in NA" posts do we have to read. We know this, do not need to keep rubbing the salt into our wounds.

I think seeing "hahaha to the non NA people" all over these forums is not a good thing.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I am glad I decided to purchase an American Wii U instead of a Japanese one. And I am able to transfer Mii's between my Japanese 3DS and American Wii U. Hopefully Smash content can also transfer between regions. If not, I know a guy who has a US 3DS and a guy who has a JPN Wii U. Boom.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

How many more of these "getting Smash two weeks early in NA" posts do we have to read. We know this, do not need to keep rubbing the salt into our wounds.

I think seeing "hahaha to the non NA people" all over these forums is not a good thing.

Calm down, bro. Just ignore it and let it go. Starting a fight doesn't make it any better. Just find some other way to release the steam and move on.

I know you're mad, but this won't help. It could in fact get you in trouble instead, which is not worth it.

 

[the8thark]

Calm down, bro. Just ignore it and let it go. Starting a fight doesn't make it any better. Just find some other way to release the steam and move on.

I know you're mad, but this won't help. It could in fact get you in trouble instead, which is not worth it.

If you think I am mad then you do not know me. I am slightly disappointed but that's all. I will not lose any sleep over it.
And secondly, they should stop saying things like this and start talking about Smash itself. I stand by what I said earlier in this topic. That kind of talk needs to stop.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I'm not going to hand out any warnings but please drop this or take it to PMs. It's sidetracking the discussion and is considered to be spam. Continuing with this "debate" will result in warnings/infractions for you both and anyone else who chimes in.

 

[the8thark]

I'm not going to hand out any warnings but please drop this or take it to PMs. It's sidetracking the discussion and is considered to be spam. Continuing with this "debate" will result in warnings/infractions for you both and anyone else who chimes in.

If I (and others) can't point this out to people who keep rubbing salt into wounds, then expect post reports for every post that does this. This needs to be stopped.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

If I (and others) can't point this out to people who keep rubbing salt into wounds, then expect post reports for every post that does this. This needs to be stopped.

If you feel people are breaking the ToS, please report them and let the mods take care of it. Users who use this as a chance to rub salt into others wounds in a mean spirited manner will be infracted for trolling. Responding to said salt wound in an inflammatory manner will result in flaming infractions. And continuing to debate who insulted who more will be infracted for spam.

Though stating "I'm glad America is getting Smash early" is not a trolling post but "lol Aussies getting smash after the Amuuricans" would be considered trolling.

(＞人＜ ; )

 

[Newt Floss]

Know what would be sweet sauce? A WiiU demo early Nov

Know what would be even more sweet sauce? Cranberry.

 

[Smash_Veteran_Amtoj]

How many more of these "getting Smash two weeks early in NA" posts do we have to read. We know this, do not need to keep rubbing the salt into our wounds.

I think seeing "hahaha to the non NA people" all over these forums is not a good thing.

I meant no offense by that, and neither does anyone else here.

We're just happy that this game is somehow ending up in our region first.

 

[the8thark]

I meant no offense by that, and neither does anyone else here.

We're just happy that this game is somehow ending up in our region first.

If you meant no offence then you'd not have said it. We know, don't have to keep repeating it.

 

[AbioFlesh]

If you meant no offence then you'd not have said it. We know, don't have to keep repeating it.

Just let it go. It's not a big deal. If someone wants to be openly happy about this, then let them.

 

[Whiteface]

Know what would be even more sweet sauce? Cranberry.

A man of the finer tastes in life I see.

 

[Ganreizu]

The timing windows reflect nintendo's priorities in terms of pushing wii u and 3DS sales in which region. Vast majority of 3DS consoles are in japan and is really popular, so japan gets 3DS version and new 3DS a lot earlier. Wii u sales need to pick up in NA and there's no way in hell they're going to miss black friday, so we get it 2 weeks earlier. If you're sad your region is getting it later than NA, then blame your region for not picking up the wii u more than they have?

I never mentioned the 3DS

So basically you don't appreciate anything.

 

[the8thark]

Just let it go. It's not a big deal. If someone wants to be openly happy about this, then let them.

People being openly happy is fine, rubbing salt into wounds is not ok.

 

[AbioFlesh]

People being openly happy is fine, rubbing salt into wounds is not ok.

Like I said, it doesn't matter, it's not a big deal, you're still gonna get the game.

 

[the8thark]

Like I said, it doesn't matter, it's not a big deal, you're still gonna get the game.

It doesn't matter to you. Other people do have feelings and they would not want their feelings hurt in this way.

 

[Mandikiri]

It doesn't matter to you. Other people do have feelings and they would not want their feelings hurt in this way.

You talk like you're not mad about it or anything. But, here you are still complaining about it even when people and a mod are telling you to drop it.

 

[Newt Floss]

Let's not forget that North America is the best and it's much better than everywhere else. If you weren't smart enough to be born here then you deserve our sloppy seconds. Know your place, rest of the world.

 

[the8thark]

You talk like you're not mad about it or anything. But, here you are still complaining about it even when people and a mod are telling you to drop it.

A moderator told me to ignore rule breaking. I can't do that, hence my reply. If you want it dropped, then don't keep bringing it back up. I'm only replying to people who talk about it now. If I say nothing, then I look like I'm condoning the behaviour. And that makes me look bad. So I am kind of forced to reply.

I'm not having a go at you. I really wish the whole issue just died and no one acted this way. How about we all talk about Smash now and not about who is or is not having a go at the non-NA people.

 

[R0Y]

For anyone really upset about this, remember that we'll be (happily) basically beta testing it for you, like Japan with the weird Princess Peach 1 day bans for doing nothing on Smash 3DS.

Wii U games don't exactly have an infallible record for bugs either. MK8 online matches would disconnect at first if any single user in the room disconnected before choosing a stage or something like that. I think it was fixed server side. First couple days until the big Wii U OS update there were very rare reports of bricked Wii U units from MK8. Mine had a random freeze for no reason after the big DLC patch happened.

Hyrule Warriors froze a bit at Japanese launch.

Discs don't take all that long to make so for all we know you might even have a more stable build BEFORE you even update your game for the first time. For all we know there could be a very meaty day 1 patch for North America to make the release date, that actually includes fixes from final quality insurance.

Black Friday in the US is the biggest shopping day at least in the developed world (maybe China or India have a bigger one, probably not in terms of dollars, especially towards media, no idea.) Also, Nintendo home consoles do better in the North American marketplace than everywhere else and there's (sometimes) good relations with retailers going back to the mid-1980's. It's harder to miss than it is say in Europe/Australia, where the Wii U has sold less combined than it has in Japan, and there's no bizarre sales day on the final Friday of November. Selling in Europe also requires more languages, whereas Wii U games only have English outside of packaging in North America, also a single, relatively cheap and simple ratings board. It's just an easier localization job.

Amiibo and the GC controller adapter are almost certainly ready .

One last thing, Wii U games made for the Americas always say "Made in USA," whereas 3DS games say "Made in Japan." If there really is a lot less shipping involved and they can print the discs themselves, then that would definitely explain the 3DS worldwide delay compared to Wii U.

A moderator told me to ignore rule breaking. I can't do that, hence my reply. If you want it dropped, then don't keep bringing it back up. I'm only replying to people who talk about it now. If I say nothing, then I look like I'm condoning the behaviour. And that makes me look bad. So I am kind of forced to reply.

I'm not having a go at you. I really wish the whole issue just died and no one acted this way. How about we all talk about Smash now and not about who is or is not having a go at the non-NA people.

Xenoblade, New 3DS, Luigi U physical, Hyrule Warriors, Pikmin 3, etc. There is loads of stuff to this day that Australia gets before NA. I can understand the frustration but this game does not change that specifically in terms of release dates, Australia doesn't really get shafted by Nintendo much anymore, unless you count a matter of hours with Europe because of time zones as shafted, or one 2-week example with Smash.

 

[the8thark]

Australia doesn't really get shafted by Nintendo much anymore, unless you count a matter of hours with Europe because of time zones as shafted, or one 2-week example with Smash.

Australia still does. Sure the release dates for some games are getting better. But we in Australia are still being shafted on price. We pay roughly $20 more on average for our games than the NA people do.

And the EU release dates are technically (some) one day earlier than us. That does make the real time difference a few hours. It's the best anyone can do there. And that's Nintendo caring about all of the PAL crown equally in that respect.

Also you can not compare the new 3DS or other hardware. And as it stands, apart from SSB, there is no real need to own a new 3DS now. Next year the need to own one fornew 3DS exclusive games and other things will pop up.

Australia has always been shafted on video games for a long time now. Sure these days you could argue it's a little better for Australia. But it's still quite a long way from what NA experience.

For anyone really upset about this, remember that we'll be (happily) basically beta testing it for you, like Japan with the weird Princess Peach 1 day bans for doing nothing on Smash 3DS.

Japan beta tested Hyrule Warriors for everyone for a moth. It was pretty buggy on J.ap release. And a few bugs are still there but it is much better now. I actually think the WiiU games have a lot more game affecting bugs than Nintendo used to on older systems.

 

[Newt Floss]

We pay roughly $20 more on average for our games than the NA people do.

That's an Australia problem not a Nintendo problem. You pay more for consumer goods across the board, it's not just video games.

And as it stands, apart from SSB, there is no real need to own a new 3DS now.

Speak for yourself. I want the New Nintendo 3DS now. I play Monster Hunter and Resident Evil: Revelations and I'm sick of carrying around a stupid chunky Circle Pad Pro. And I want the faster OS and improved 3D even more.

 

[R0Y]

Australia still does. Sure the release dates for some games are getting better. But we in Australia are still being shafted on price. We pay roughly $20 more on average for our games than the NA people do.

And the EU release dates are technically (some) one day earlier than us. That does make the real time difference a few hours. It's the best anyone can do there. And that's Nintendo caring about all of the PAL crown equally in that respect.

Also you can not compare the new 3DS or other hardware. And as it stands, apart from SSB, there is no real need to own a new 3DS now. Next year the need to own one fornew 3DS exclusive games and other things will pop up.

Australia has always been shafted on video games for a long time now. Sure these days you could argue it's a little better for Australia. But it's still quite a long way from what NA experience.


Japan beta tested Hyrule Warriors for everyone for a moth. It was pretty buggy on J.ap release. And a few bugs are still there but it is much better now. I actually think the WiiU games have a lot more game affecting bugs than Nintendo used to on older systems.

Taxes included in prices, and they aren't low. Plus high shipping costs for a low population.

 

[the8thark]

Taxes included in prices, and they aren't low. Plus high shipping costs for a low population.

Even if you factor in taxes, Australians pay more. And actually Australia is closer to China (where most consumer goods and games are manufactured) than NA is to China. Also Australia is a smaller market but also a smaller number of outlets for the games to be delivered to.
Also the price discrepancy here also exists for Digitally delivered games. No delivery cost to factor in there, only the bandwidth costs to host the games and that's the same cost past on to everyone as everyone downloads the games from the same server (mostly).

I am not complaining though. I pay the prices and am just grateful to be able to play the games. I was just stating the facts.

(totally off topic but Australia is right now over populated but that's really nothing to do with what we are talking about, I just wanted to say it).

 

[R0Y]

Even if you factor in taxes, Australians pay more. And actually Australia is closer to China (where most consumer goods and games are manufactured) than NA is to China. Also Australia is a smaller market but also a smaller number of outlets for the games to be delivered to.
Also the price discrepancy here also exists for Digitally delivered games. No delivery cost to factor in there, only the bandwidth costs to host the games and that's the same cost past on to everyone as everyone downloads the games from the same server (mostly).

I am not complaining though. I pay the prices and am just grateful to be able to play the games. I was just stating the facts.

(totally off topic but Australia is right now over populated but that's really nothing to do with what we are talking about, I just wanted to say it).

True that even after tax..however, being closer to China is irrelevant if it's in the "wrong" direction away from normal trade routes.

Not saying the prices are okay, but tax takes out much of the bite. Comparing the prices with sales tax in in one country and not the other is absolutely pointless.

 

[the8thark]

True that even after tax..however, being closer to China is irrelevant if it's in the "wrong" direction away from normal trade routes.

Not saying the prices are okay, but tax takes out much of the bite. Comparing the prices with sales tax in in one country and not the other is absolutely pointless.

It's not pointless to compare prices with tax in different countries. The final end price is what the customer pays. And comparing that between countries is actually a good method of comparison. The price without tax means nothing to us as you can't avoid paying the tax (most times).

The China point, that only matters if we where Nintendo get the raw materials to make their games, the cost of manufacturing the games and the cost for Nintendo to have the games shipped to all the stores. We don't know what shipping deals Nintendo can get. That information is an unknown to us. I was just assuming that less shipping distance equals less shipping costs. And mostly that is the case unless you get a special deal for a certain shipping route, which Nintendo might get.

To be honest I do not find the game prices here all that bad. I understand we have to pay a touch more, but I really think it's more to do with the changing prices of the Australian dollar when compared to the Japanese Yen. Nintendo set the prices here a touch higher to cover the fluctuating exchange rate. That doesn't happen for most goods sold in the US, as the US is still seen as the standard currency. By standard I don't mean best performing, I just the one currency that most others are compared to.

I do think the days of the US dollar being the one currency the world compares every other currency to need to end but that's totally off topic.

 

[R0Y]

It's not pointless to compare prices with tax in different countries. The final end price is what the customer pays. And comparing that between countries is actually a good method of comparison. The price without tax means nothing to us as you can't avoid paying the tax (most times).

Wait...what... Most US states and all of Canada do have sales tax, it's just added on on top of the final retail price. Only comparing the final price before tax would make sense...and it wouldn't because different regions charge different sales tax rates. Doesn't matter what the end consumer pays. End consumer in the US doesn't have universal health care or the same social safety net you or I have come to expect....and they're charged less tax (in most places) partly because of it.

Ideally sales tax would be taken out of both prices for this sort of argument, because the video game company wants to make the same profit everywhere, doesn't matter what the end consumer pays for the part that doesn't get back to the video game company.


If the economy of scale is small because the population is small, then there's an argument for a higher price. Not saying it's justified, Canada gets price gouged too. Nintendo is mostly fair charging $65, but most publishers charge $70, which is more than $60 US. I get discounts on both though anyway so it's moot for me, but I'm saying tax rate is irrelevant.

 

[Tino]

Looks like the rumors of a 11/21 release date turned out to be true. Man, it feels good to be in North America!

 

[Champ Gold]

Look at all this from a business perspective.

The Wii U isn't doing that great and the game everyone wants (that's not name Bayonetta 2) is Smash Bros and Japan sop caring about consoles long ago (the Wii U is beating the PS4/Xbox One there) and Europe can wait a while.


U.S. has Black Friday, the most horrible day of the year if you work at retail and you want Smash to get a major push for the Wii U, you let the U.S. get first crack at it.


This is best idea for Nintendo, besides Smsh is bigger here than anywhere else

 

[the8thark]

Nintendo is mostly fair charging $65, but most publishers charge $70

Good to know that games in the US cost $65-$75. Here we wish games cost $70. Full priced games here (Nintendo and others) are $80-$100. A few like GTA-V were $110.

Look at all this from a business perspective.

The Wii U isn't doing that great and the game everyone wants (that's not name Bayonetta 2) is Smash Bros and Japan sop caring about consoles long ago (the Wii U is beating the PS4/Xbox One there) and Europe can wait a while.


U.S. has Black Friday, the most horrible day of the year if you work at retail and you want Smash to get a major push for the Wii U, you let the U.S. get first crack at it.


This is best idea for Nintendo, besides Smsh is bigger here than anywhere else

I highlighted part of your post. You had a very good post there, I agree with most of it apart from the part I highlighted and underlined. That was not needed to be said and just rubbing salt into wounds.
NA get the game first because of Black Friday. That's just business. But saying "everyone else can wait a while" is very rude. What if the NA people had to "wait a while" and I went on about that? You'd not be happy at all. I'm not having a go at you personally, I'm just saying next time please watch what you say so things like this are not said. That's all.

 

[Spirst]

Good to know that games in the US cost $65-$75. Here we wish games cost $70. Full priced games here (Nintendo and others) are $80-$100. A few like GTA-V were $110.



I highlighted part of your post. You had a very good post there, I agree with most of it apart from the part I highlighted and underlined. That was not needed to be said and just rubbing salt into wounds.
NA get the game first because of Black Friday. That's just business. But saying "everyone else can wait a while" is very rude. What if the NA people had to "wait a while" and I went on about that? You'd not be happy at all. I'm not having a go at you personally, I'm just saying next time please watch what you say so things like this are not said. That's all.

I feel like you're being too sensitive about all this. Yes, we understand, it sucks that places other than NA get it two weeks later. However, people can be happy about the fact that they're living in the place where their highly anticipated game is being released first without having to censor how they feel because it's "rubbing salt in the wound." A number of times, it isn't even the intention. You shouldn't expect people to adhere to your own sense of etiquette seeing as how that's ultimately the product of your own experiences and shouldn't be imposed on others. Personally, I wouldn't be offended or be "not happy at all" if Smash came out elsewhere first and I was told to wait. Ultimately, it's the internet and a certain level of emotional distancing is smart. I've learned not to let things affect me all that much on here.

 

[the8thark]

I feel like you're being too sensitive about all this. Yes, we understand, it sucks that places other than NA get it two weeks later. However, people can be happy about the fact that they're living in the place where their highly anticipated game is being released first without having to censor how they feel because it's "rubbing salt in the wound." A number of times, it isn't even the intention. You shouldn't expect people to adhere to your own sense of etiquette seeing as how that's ultimately the product of your own experiences and shouldn't be imposed on others. Personally, I wouldn't be offended or be "not happy at all" if Smash came out elsewhere first and I was told to wait. Ultimately, it's the internet and a certain level of emotional distancing is smart. I've learned not to let things affect me all that much on here.

I will be glad when the game is released in all regions so this kind of salty and round rubbing talk (not from you but from others) can finally die.

 

[Mandikiri]

I will be glad when the game is released in all regions so this kind of salty and round rubbing talk (not from you but from others) can finally die.

No offense to you or anything. But it seems you're either looking for attention or just being extremely sensitive over this matter. I am still surprised that after these past few days. You're still bringing this matter.

Not sure how saying "Europe can wait a while" is applying salt to the wound. If anything, I don't see anyone else saying that except you.

 

[Newt Floss]

And can we stop using the salt into wounds analogy over and over? Let's try and be a little more creative.