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Reasons why Ridley should not be a playable character

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PsychoIncarnate

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To expose you of idiocy.
Expose me of idiocy now?

...in what way?

I KNOW why he created this thread...

This isn't a conversation with you



You're just that ******* that tried to stir **** up the other day...



So shut the **** up and sit your *** down
 

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We had a nice little discussion on the beginning (about char sizes) that didn't have to be there in the first place if ppl would've read the full post, and after that we saw how moronic the ''members'' of club R.I.D.L.E.Y. can be.
The fact byou put:

1) Ridley is big: He wasn't that big in the original Metroid (but the original Ridley is totally different anyway), but he got bigger and bigger in each game (he's huge in Metroid Prime now). Ridley's size is too much compared to the rest of the cast. In Smash Bros, he would probably be a little bit smaller than Giga Bowser, which is not good for playability... at least Giga Bowser is the result of a transformation which is temporary, Ridley would always keep that size.
as a factor for him to be ONLY a boss is the reason WHY we flamed you in the 1st place, size AINT an issue and u say that like it is and because of that he has no choice but becoming a boss...

FAIL
 

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Because seriously, there's only 2 reasons why a character shouldn't make it into Brawl:

1) The character isn't relevant to the concept of Smash Bros.(which means he's not that important to his own game series)

2) The character doesn't really add to the pool of characters that are already in the game (in terms of the altered character designs for Smash Bros)
 

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And the result is...

EVERYONE MADE AN A-S OUT OF THEMSELVES!

Congratulations for failing!

The fact that you took this thread seriously makes you a complete idiot.
I didn't take this thread seriosly...I was IN the thread when he was talking about making an Anti-Ridley thread and I know the reason WHY he did it...

I'm trying to say it has no point...


Now shut up about **** you don't know about and stop assuming ****
 

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Because seriously, there's only 2 reasons why a character shouldn't make it into Brawl:

1) The character isn't relevant to the concept of Smash Bros.(which means he's not that important to his own game series)

2) The character doesn't really add to the pool of characters that are already in the game (in terms of the altered character designs for Smash Bros)
HOORAY!

ACCORIDING TO THIS RIDLEY WILL BE IN BRAWL!
 

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The fact byou put:



as a factor for him to be ONLY a boss is the reason WHY we flamed you in the 1st place, size AINT an issue and u say that like it is and because of that he has no choice but becoming a boss...

FAIL
This is LOLtastic.

Ill say it for the 4th time, this isn't even about the fact that he is big. Point 1 only leads to point 4.

Then you say that I ignore your posts?
 

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UHHHHHH.... This thread WAS serious. Completely serious and incomprehensible.

Hence the FLAMING!
If you think that you're obviously really an idiot, like I said.
PsychoIncarnate said:
I didn't take this thread seriosly...I was IN the thread when he was talking about making an Anti-Ridley thread and I know the reason WHY he did it...
If you didn't take this thread seriously, you wouldn't be whining and complaining about his hate towards Ridley.
PsychoIncarnate said:
I'm trying to say it has no point...
It does have a point, the fact that you don't see that makes you a complete dunce.
 

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1) The character isn't relevant to the concept of Smash Bros.(which means he's not that important to his own game series)

2) The character doesn't really add to the pool of characters that are already in the game (in terms of the altered character designs for Smash Bros)
Good, 'cause he is important, and would add to Brawl.

And we already proved wrong your 4th point, you're the only idiot in this forum that as sayd that Ridley would be a Charizard clone.

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This Thread IS Serious, You're the idiot.
 

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If you think that you're obviously really an idiot, like I said.

If you didn't take this thread seriously, you wouldn't be whining and complaining about his hate towards Ridley.

It does have a point, the fact that you don't see that makes you a complete dunce.
It DOESN'T have a point...It's just to cause anger in others which is pathetic...

An ignorant moron that has nothing better in your life than to manipulate others emotions...****in' pathetic *******...

So what, you angered some people over the internet...your life has SOOO much meaning...you should be so proud of yourself...
 

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This is LOLtastic.

Ill say it for the 4th time, this isn't even about the fact that he is big. Point 1 only leads to point 4.

Then you say that I ignore your posts?
Point 4 is an auto matic fail.

Reasons​

Charizard
Has stamina
Breathes Fire
Fat and Heavy= Slow
Is part of a three set character
Rock Smash​
Ridley
Completeley seperate character
Breathes Plasma
Skinny and Lanky= Fast
Has machine weaponry
More of a main charactr than Charizard
wanted more​


Stick that in your juice box and suck it!
 

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1) Ridley is big: He wasn't that big in the original Metroid (but the original Ridley is totally different anyway), but he got bigger and bigger in each game (he's huge in Metroid Prime now). Ridley's size is too much compared to the rest of the cast. In Smash Bros, he would probably be a little bit smaller than Giga Bowser, which is not good for playability... at least Giga Bowser is the result of a transformation which is temporary, Ridley would always keep that size.
I want to make an attempt at some of these... Size isn't an issue. Fail.

2) Ridley flies all the time: The only game where he doesn't have that characteristic is Metroid (but the character design was totally different anyways) but in the other games of the Metroid series, you can see that Ridley is always in the air (erm... dont want to spoil stuff hehe). Anyways, Ridley was designed as a flying boss, and that is one thing that was supposed to add to the challenge of defeating him... the fact that he's always in the air!
What did Mewtwo do in Melee? Float all the time? Fail.

3) So basically Ridley's design is different of a playable character's design. The other flyers that are currently in Brawl do not use Flying as their main means of movement, it's kinda like a secondary ability that they have. Ridley is basically just like a Bird, so flying is how he moves. Having the idea of a pure flying character could add variety to this game, but it would kinda be conflictual with the mechanics, which is to knock your opponent off the stage!
I get confused by this. Your saying he will have to be flying because he has wings?

Mewtwo floated around. He could easily stop his flying off the stage with psychic powers. And Pit and MetaKnight have wings, whats to stop them from using them to stop them from shooting off the screen?

4) So many of you would say something like: ''Well we could make Ridley smaller and make him a walking creature with a gliding ability kinda like Charizard'' Well thats what Ridley becomes ladies and gentlemen... not only he uses his features from the Metroid series (being huge, being able to easily grab sum1 with his claws, being able to fly all the time) but he simply becomes a Charizard clone...
How would you know? We don't even know how Charizard plays!

5) So if you are a true Ridley fan, you should stop being selfish and start thinking about the bigger picture... The only way to correctly represent Ridley in Brawl is to make him a Boss character. That way, he'll be able to keep all of his features that makes him awesome. Also, Ridley has no personality... so you don't want to play as him, you just want to shoot him dead, trying to save your skin!!!
No... Bowser would be an awesome boss character huh?

Ridley for Brawl!!!
Indeed.

-Onyx
 

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It DOESN'T have a point...It's just to cause anger in others which is pathetic...
How is that pathetic? Because you embarrassed yourself by showing your true colors? You're just butthurt.
An ignorant moron that has nothing better in your life than to manipulate others emotions...****in' pathetic *******...
There's seriously nothing better than making people look like an a-s.
So what, you angered some people over the internet...your life has SOOO much meaning...you should be so proud of yourself...
Quite I am.
 

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Guys, see my sig? lololol



Now I will put you guys to the test! Can you tell me why I said that Ridley would be like Charizard?
1. Your an idiot.
2. Probably cause you think all things with wings are the same.
3. You assumed fire and plasma were both the same.
4. You like turtles.
 

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Many ppl requested one, so here it goes! Welcome to the anti-Ridley thread.

Before I explain my stuff, let me tell you guys that you gotta make good decisions in terms of a playable roster in a video game. More is not necessarily better, and knowing where to draw the line is the most important thing of all.

Now, let's talk about Ridley:



Samus' most notable antagonist, even though he never was the main antagonist, from the Metroid series. He looks like a cross between a dragon and a pterodactyl, and he flies, spits fireballs and likes to slash Bounty Hunters with his claws or his tail.

Ridley would make a great addition in Brawl... but he would be much better as a boss than as a character, here's why:

1) Ridley is big: He wasn't that big in the original Metroid (but the original Ridley is totally different anyway), but he got bigger and bigger in each game (he's huge in Metroid Prime now). Ridley's size is too much compared to the rest of the cast. In Smash Bros, he would probably be a little bit smaller than Giga Bowser, which is not good for playability... at least Giga Bowser is the result of a transformation which is temporary, Ridley would always keep that size.

2) Ridley flies all the time: The only game where he doesn't have that characteristic is Metroid (but the character design was totally different anyways) but in the other games of the Metroid series, you can see that Ridley is always in the air (erm... dont want to spoil stuff hehe). Anyways, Ridley was designed as a flying boss, and that is one thing that was supposed to add to the challenge of defeating him... the fact that he's always in the air!

3) So basically Ridley's design is different of a playable character's design. The other flyers that are currently in Brawl do not use Flying as their main means of movement, it's kinda like a secondary ability that they have. Ridley is basically just like a Bird, so flying is how he moves. Having the idea of a pure flying character could add variety to this game, but it would kinda be conflictual with the mechanics, which is to knock your opponent off the stage!

4) So many of you would say something like: ''Well we could make Ridley smaller and make him a walking creature with a gliding ability kinda like Charizard'' Well thats what Ridley becomes ladies and gentlemen... not only he uses his features from the Metroid series (being huge, being able to easily grab sum1 with his claws, being able to fly all the time) but he simply becomes a Charizard clone...

5) So if you are a true Ridley fan, you should stop being selfish and start thinking about the bigger picture... The only way to correctly represent Ridley in Brawl is to make him a Boss character. That way, he'll be able to keep all of his features that makes him awesome. Also, Ridley has no personality... so you don't want to play as him, you just want to shoot him dead, trying to save your skin!!!

Ridley for Brawl!!!
No.
this thread fails life.
 

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How is that pathetic? Because you embarrassed yourself by showing your true colors? You're just butthurt.

There's seriously nothing better than making people look like an a-s.

Quite I am.
I am never embarissed to show any of myself...

If you seriously think their is nothing better than "making people look like an a-s"...You just showed you really have no meaning in life besides being a *******...

If anything, your more of an *** than anyone
 

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this thread fails life.
How is that even legit when you support Sonic in Brawl?
I am never embarissed to show any of myself...
Then you should feel bad about yourself and commit suicide.
If you seriously think their is nothing better than "making people look like an a-s"...You just showed you really have no meaning in life besides being a *******...
Yes, my main goal in life is the make your's worse.
If anything, your more of an *** than anyone
Oh no, I'm an a-s?!
 

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'Cause you think Downsizing him would make him like Charizard, you're wrong.
 

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1. Your an idiot.
2. Probably cause you think all things with wings are the same.
3. You assumed fire and plasma were both the same.
4. You like turtles.
See lol?

You could have just copypasted what I said b4, but instead you just say a bunch of random insults.

Only been in the Brawl Character boards for 2 days... but I feel so smart when posting here... :)

EDIT: Nice try Shuma, but you're just on the surface... it's deeper than that!
 

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See lol?

You could have just copypasted what I said b4, but instead you just say a bunch of random insults.

Only been in the Brawl Character boards for 2 days... but I feel so smart when posting here... :)

EDIT: Nice try Shuma, but you're just on the surface... it's deeper than that!
Well then why don't you tell us exactly why you think this.

Let me bask in your "awesome knowledge".
 

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I never spammed pictures, so don't tell me i did, all your points have been proven wrong and you haven't proven our points wrong, so why is this thread still going?
 

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LukeGroundwalker, you're taking it seriously too aren't you? so STFU and sit down.

BigRick, all of your points have been proven wrong, multiple times. Yet you keep bringing them up. You fail.
 

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No personality? I beg to differ, read the E-Manga please...

And Ridley looks perfectly good in Melee's intro... And he was nowhere near as big as he was in the other Metroid games... (Except M1)
 

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He's just lying to make us look stupid guys. He made this and was serious about it. And now that he has been proven to be a complete idiot, he is trying to turn it around on us and try to accuse us of being stupid. We have won, there is no reason for Ridley not to be in Brawl. Just leave this place and its many trolls and let it be closed.
 

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Seriously I should've done this in the Ridley thead...

that way your infractions would've closed your own thread down.

Oh and Lee dont call me stupid, you were the worst of the bunch lol
Oh obviously you did not read Gypsy's amazing post that totally owned yours.

Oh and do us a favor:

TRY AND PROVE OUR POINTS WRONG!

good day
 

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Hello. One and all. Allow me to introduce myself, since I will be the one driving this thread into the bowels of "closed".

As you can clearly see, I go by the tag O D I N. I've been a Ridley supporter for the last 2 months, and a proud member of R.I.D.L.E.Y. for the last month. I've also been referred to as the resident "noob crusher", given my ability to break illogical "noob" posts.

Now, let's get discussing, shall we (yes, discussion. Unlike other forum members around SWF, I'll be discussing, and using logic to back up my statements)?

Many ppl requested one, so here it goes! Welcome to the anti-Ridley thread.
I'd really like to know who. For entertainment purposes. All the threads I've been on haven't said otherwise. Also, please learn to spell properly. It bugs me, and a lot of other literate people up the wall.

Before I explain my stuff, let me tell you guys that you gotta make good decisions in terms of a playable roster in a video game. More is not necessarily better, and knowing where to draw the line is the most important thing of all.
Actually, I agree with you. We can't have a broken character in a video game that is "too strong". Example: Dark Phoenix from X-men: Next Dimension. More is not always better, but I agree, there is a line. Let's see if you know about this "Line", you speak of...


Now, let's talk about Ridley:
Yes. Lets.



Samus' most notable antagonist, even though he never was the main antagonist, from the Metroid series. He looks like a cross between a dragon and a pterodactyl, and he flies, spits fireballs and likes to slash Bounty Hunters with his claws or his tail.
The fact that he has appeared in all but 2 Metroid games (Metroid Prime 2:Echoes and Metroid Prime: Hunters), appears to me that he IS Samus' main Antagonist. Though certainly, he is rarely the final boss of any of the Metroid games, he is the character that reappears the most within the Metroid series. He appears more than Kraid, and more than Mother Brain. And, he has strong ties to Samus, given her back story.

http://www.mechadrake.com/metroidmanga.html

I'd like to direct you to the official Metroid Manga. This was kindly translated by a nice person who understands Japanese, and put the scans up on the internet. After reading this, you'll understand why Ridley is so important to Samus' backstory.

This Manga is official canon material, as Nintendo has given their seal of approval on it, and there was a link leading to the site (not the link I provided) from Nintendo Japan's webpage.

Let's continue...


Ridley would make a great addition in Brawl... but he would be much better as a boss than as a character, here's why:
So when you say great addition to Brawl, why shouldn't he be a character?

1) Ridley is big: He wasn't that big in the original Metroid (but the original Ridley is totally different anyway), but he got bigger and bigger in each game (he's huge in Metroid Prime now). Ridley's size is too much compared to the rest of the cast. In Smash Bros, he would probably be a little bit smaller than Giga Bowser, which is not good for playability... at least Giga Bowser is the result of a transformation which is temporary, Ridley would always keep that size.
The size arguement is the most used arguement in the history of arguements (especially concerning Ridley). Since this has been done several times over, I will be demonstrating the same points, but with other characters and their respective games.

First of all; in Ocarina of Time, and official Ocarina of Time art; Ganondorf is much larger than Link, in regards to his height. Observe:



And here, from an old clip for the Gamecube demo at E3:



You'll notice Ganondorf is crouching, and still towers over Link.

However for Melee, Ganondorf has been scaled down significantly. While still one of the tallest characters in the game, he's not as tall as say, Giga Bowser. In fact, he's no where near it.

My apologies for not finding a shot from OoT. If I find one, I'll be sure to post it here for evidence.

You'll also notice in the opening movie for Melee, Samus is seen fighting Ridley. Ridley is only slightly bigger than Samus, much like how he was in Super Metroid.

I'd also like to point out (I'm still searching for my source) that Ridley was wanted for Melee, but they couldn't animate the wings and tail properly (Pit was the same problem, regarding the wings).

2) Ridley flies all the time: The only game where he doesn't have that characteristic is Metroid (but the character design was totally different anyways) but in the other games of the Metroid series, you can see that Ridley is always in the air (erm... dont want to spoil stuff hehe). Anyways, Ridley was designed as a flying boss, and that is one thing that was supposed to add to the challenge of defeating him... the fact that he's always in the air!
Untrue. In Metroid Prime, at a certain point in the fight, Ridley's wings were burnt off, and Ridley was forced to fight on the ground. While I agree, Ridley has air superiority, and would most likely prefer fighting in the air, this by no means suggest he can't fight on the ground. He still has Plasma beams/breath, claws, and don't forget the tail. Ridley is just as formidable an opponent on the ground, as well as in the air. One might say he's more fearsome on the ground than in the air.

3) So basically Ridley's design is different of a playable character's design. The other flyers that are currently in Brawl do not use Flying as their main means of movement, it's kinda like a secondary ability that they have. Ridley is basically just like a Bird, so flying is how he moves. Having the idea of a pure flying character could add variety to this game, but it would kinda be conflictual with the mechanics, which is to knock your opponent off the stage!
So is Kirby, Pit, Charizard, and Metaknight with what I will assume will be more multiple jumpers (in regards to their jumps, making them fly like a bird would, "flapping their wings". Look at Kirby's jump animation. Flaps like a bird). Why couldn't Ridley be the same? 4-5 flaps=4-5 jumps, and then a glide? Or even just gliding?


4) So many of you would say something like: ''Well we could make Ridley smaller and make him a walking creature with a gliding ability kinda like Charizard'' Well thats what Ridley becomes ladies and gentlemen... not only he uses his features from the Metroid series (being huge, being able to easily grab sum1 with his claws, being able to fly all the time) but he simply becomes a Charizard clone...
And that's what Pit and Metaknight become: Pit and Metaknight clones. There's only so much that can be done that will be truely original in any game. Just because a character recovers in the same way that another character does (Mario and Luigi anyone?), doesn't make them a clone. While the Mario and Luigi refrence isn't perfect, it's used as a loose example, given the different properties of Luigi's Up+B, and Side+B, as well as his fireballs. Similiar, but vastly different. Let's also remember his regular A moves are completely different from Mario's (with a few exceptions).

5) So if you are a true Ridley fan, you should stop being selfish and start thinking about the bigger picture... The only way to correctly represent Ridley in Brawl is to make him a Boss character. That way, he'll be able to keep all of his features that makes him awesome. Also, Ridley has no personality... so you don't want to play as him, you just want to shoot him dead, trying to save your skin!!!
I have been thinking about the bigger picture Rick. See, like you; I was a non Ridley supporter. I had the same arguements. The same ideas. And then I really, and I mean REALLY thought about it.

Wouldn't Ridley be one of the most unique characters within the game? Wouldn't it be great to have a freaking Space Dragon, glide around on screen dropping effing fireballs or plasma blasts onto his foes, while swiping his tail (which is an effing harpoon) at those foolish enough to be below him? Or infront of him? After reading this, and my rebuttals, why WOULDN'T you want Ridley in Brawl as a playable character?

The Metroid series needs more reps. Ridley is the only choice. You can't have Mother Brain; She's too much like a Master Hand character.

Kraid wouldn't be that great of a character choice; He's pretty bland, and doesn't do much aside from a couple over exaggerated swipes and weird tummy missles (that's right... I said tummy missles. Deal with it).

You want Dark Samus? Fine. Be prepared for a Luigi-fied clone of Samus. I've accepted that fact.

Want a hunter from Metroid Prime: Hunters? Why? They had no character, and weren't that important to the series like Ridley is.

No, Ridley is the only choice for another Metroid rep.

As for Ridley being in a boss in story mode? Why couldn't he be? I forsee a lot of playable villians being in story mode.


Ridley for Brawl!!!
Your most hypocritical statement in your entire post.

Your argument and thread title, clearly suggests that you don't want Ridley in Brawl. And then you go and say that?

You might wanna consider getting some french fries.



Ridley likes fries with his meal.


Ridley for Brawl *****es.
 
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