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I was on the expectations of a release by june which I am starting to doubt since nintendo still has not assigned a season to the 2014 date yet. You think if it was coming out by then they would have already labeled the season it be released in. :(
 

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It's still possible, there's quite a few games coming for Wii U next year that have yet to get a date yet, and probably more that are unannounced.
 

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I think the team definitely does have a GOAL date to finish the game by. I don't think they want to reveal the date to soon just in case they need more time and have to disappoint fans to say the game is going to get delayed. At best I think we will see when it is coming out during e3 2014. My guess is July or August.
 

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This will be a September 2014 release at the earliest possible release date, although November 2014 release at the earliest is my bet.

I think a 2015 release date is still ideal. That way, we can have more stuff. I still think a 2015 release date is most likely.

I don't mind waiting an extra few months for more character, stages, game modes, gameplay content, miscellaneous content, and a better built package.
 

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I think the team definitely does have a GOAL date to finish the game by. I don't think they want to reveal the date to soon just in case they need more time and have to disappoint fans to say the game is going to get delayed. At best I think we will see when it is coming out during e3 2014. My guess is July or August.
they just need to grow some balls and through a release date out there
 

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I would rather them take their time and make a great product on release. Then them rush out a half assed product and patch it later.
 

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if the game realsed today it would not be rushed, this coming feb they would have been working on this game as long as brawl with the twice the workforce
 

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if the game realsed today it would not be rushed, this coming feb they would have been working on this game as long as brawl with the twice the workforce
Im just saying that Im not starved for smash, there are 4 other smash games that I can go play.

They need to take their time when balancing this game. (I really don't want Meta Knight to happen again)
 

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They said there won't be any patches for it if I remember correctly.
Sakurai and his team said they didn't have it planned right now and that they don't want to think about it too much either, since they're still working on the game itself. However, it's still a possibility.

He did come ahead and say he wanted to patch Brawl at some point, but couldn't due to the Wii's limitations. So I'm fairly certain that if something is completely broken, like Brawl's online, then they'll come ahead and patch it.
 

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if the game realsed today it would not be rushed, this coming feb they would have been working on this game as long as brawl with the twice the workforce
Brawl development started in October 2005 with a trailer in May 2006. The game was released in Japan in January 2008 and America had a March 2008 release. That's almost three and a half year development period.

sSB4 development started on March 2012 with an expected Mid to late 2014 release. As of now we are nearing two years development with 2 and half next Christnas. A full year earlier than SSBB. Hardly the same.

If the game was released today, it would most definitely be rushed and imconplete. I am 100% certain the game is barely near completion.

I also don't see the reason why we need another "zomg y no release date?!" Thread.
 

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I'm guessing it could be 2014's 3D World equivalent in the fact that it will be released towards the end of the year. No matter when it comes out, there will always be people who say that it was rushed and incomplete or came out too late to make an impact. Can't please everyone, right?
 

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On the other hand, comparing developing times is useless and we all know that. Melee was done in half the time Brawl required and still many consider it superior. So really, why compare at all?
 

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On the other hand, comparing developing times is useless and we all know that. Melee was done in half the time Brawl required and still many consider it superior. So really, why compare at all?
Melee was an accident, it wasn't meant to be as good as it was! xD
 

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I think a 2015 release date is still ideal. That way, we can have more stuff. I still think a 2015 release date is most likely.


NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

Wii U is in a bad state, it's selling worse than GC at the moment, Ninty can't afford to wait for the holidays on this title, not while Xbone and PS4 will likely have much more dangerous holidays than their lackluster appearances for launch.

I'm definitely not saying they should rush this, because I'm saying they don't have to. SSB4 will have been in development longer than Brawl by May of next year. If you take *too* long, you're going to overpolish it and actually make it *worse*. I'm saying there's an optimal time here, and Summer/Early fall 2014 is it.

That being said:

Brawl development started in October 2005 with a trailer in May 2006. The game was released in Japan in January 2008 and America had a March 2008 release. That's almost three and a half year development period.

sSB4 development started on March 2012 with an expected Mid to late 2014 release. As of now we are nearing two years development with 2 and half next Christnas. A full year earlier than SSBB. Hardly the same.

If the game was released today, it would most definitely be rushed and imconplete. I am 100% certain the game is barely near completion.
I'd like proof, because Brawl is on record for taking 26 months, and the trailer we got was Ninty showing off something for Sakurai to work with.
 

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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

Wii U is in a bad state, it's selling worse than GC at the moment, Ninty can't afford to wait for the holidays on this title, not while Xbone and PS4 will likely have much more dangerous holidays than their lackluster appearances for launch.

I'm definitely not saying they should rush this, because I'm saying they don't have to. SSB4 will have been in development longer than Brawl by May of next year. If you take *too* long, you're going to overpolish it and actually make it *worse*. I'm saying there's an optimal time here, and Summer/Early fall 2014 is it.

That being said:



I'd like proof, because Brawl is on record for taking 26 months, and the trailer we got was Ninty showing off something for Sakurai to work with.
Granted two of the links are wikia pages:
http://supersmashbros.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl

Sakurai mentions that development started on October 2005 with the opening of a new office in Tokyo. It's in the development section. My phone doesn't want to copy and paste large sections of text. Links seem to be good.

Finally, taking the source cited from the Wikipedia page, comments from Sakurai.

http://web.archive.org/web/20061116161044/www.smashbros.com/en/main.html

Again, my phone isn't copying my selected text save for addresses.

I would like to correct myself. I meant June 2006, not May 2006 in regards to the official trailer at E3.
 

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...ohh yeah and lack of games. But that's a little better now.
I think they have a great chance to pull it back with 2014.
Probably not as good as the 3DS comeback was, but at least good enough to keep it from becoming the next Dreamcast.
They need to go back to a proper E3 show to grab people's attention and tell them that the Wii U is it's own thing, it exists and it has awesome games. There's a lot of potential for E3 announcements this year.
It's just a shame it'll never be on the same level as the Xbone and PS4 in terms of sales thanks to dudebros.
 

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E3 is in June starts on the 10th ends on the 12th, we have 6 months....I dont know why i keep thinking E3 was in August.

At E3 2011, it was confirmed that Super Smash Bros. will be coming to the Nintendo 3DS and the Wii U..

development for the titles did not start until May 2012 due to production on Kid Icarus: Uprising.

On June 21, 2012, Nintendo announced that the creation of the games would be a co-production between Sakurai'sSora Ltd. and Namco Bandai Games.

On January 23, 2013, during a Wii U Nintendo Direct episode, it was revealed that screenshots and further information for the next Smash Bros. game would be revealed at E3 2013.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._(series)


The paired versions of the game were officially revealed at E3 2013 in the form of a trailer on June 11, 2013.

http://www.ssbwiki.com/Super_Smash_Bros._4

They still haven't labeled when Mario Kart 8 is to be released,But is rumored to be released in April. i expect a May or June Release for smash 4.
 

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I don't think it's too far off because of what all they've shown off and I don't think we would have seen as much as we have if it was less than 50% done. In the timespan it took them to reveal one veteran for Brawl after the initial trailer, we've gotten six. It took them 15 months after E3 06 for them to feel comfortable revealing another newcomer, this time around it only took 6. Daily updates for Brawl didn't happen until about a year later, we started getting them on the same day the game was revealed. Sakurai has made comments about how he doesn't like to show things off unless he's comfortable with the way they look and I don't think we'd even have daily updates right now if this game was still 10 months to a year away. I'm still going to say late summer at the latest.
 

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I don't think it's too far off because of what all they've shown off and I don't think we would have seen as much as we have if it was less than 50% done. In the timespan it took them to reveal one veteran for Brawl after the initial trailer, we've gotten six. It took them 15 months after E3 06 for them to feel comfortable revealing another newcomer, this time around it only took 6. Daily updates for Brawl didn't happen until about a year later, we started getting them on the same day the game was revealed. Sakurai has made comments about how he doesn't like to show things off unless he's comfortable with the way they look and I don't think we'd even have daily updates right now if this game was still 10 months to a year away. I'm still going to say late summer at the latest.
You also have to take into account that he has a much bigger team to work with, since Namco is helping out and I imagine Nintendo are making Smash a pretty big priority along with Mario Kart. I doubt it will be pushed back to 2015, they can't afford to lose this release this year. The most they'll possibly push it back would be winter, but I think they're trying their best not to let that happen.
 

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It's mind boggling that Mario Kart 8 and Kirby for the 3DS still can't get a release date confirmed. Nintendo just keeps shooting themselves in the foot with the WiiU it seems.
 

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It's mind boggling that Mario Kart 8 and Kirby for the 3DS still can't get a release date confirmed.
At least Mario Kart is "Spring", so hopefully April like MKWii was.
Kirby is releasing in January in Japan, so I can imagine we won't have to wait long after (there's not exactly a lot of text to localise). It might even release around MK8, though I'm guessing late Spring.
 

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At least Mario Kart is "Spring", so hopefully April like MKWii was.
Kirby is releasing in January in Japan, so I can imagine we won't have to wait long after (there's not exactly a lot of text to localise). It might even release around MK8, though I'm guessing late Spring.
Hope you're right. Nintendo is such a frustrating company.
 

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It's mind boggling that Mario Kart 8 and Kirby for the 3DS still can't get a release date confirmed. Nintendo just keeps shooting themselves in the foot with the WiiU it seems.
How is the fact that we don't know when Kirby is going to be released on 3DS a problem for the WiiU?
 

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It's mind boggling that Mario Kart 8 and Kirby for the 3DS still can't get a release date confirmed. Nintendo just keeps shooting themselves in the foot with the WiiU it seems.
Kirby will probably be February for NA and EU. It's not like they have a lot of text to translate which is why, for example, we typically get Fire Emblem games more than a year after they release in Japan.
 

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I think that the thing that really pisses you off is that you simply want to know when you're going to be able to play Smash Bros.
I've been with Nintendo since they first started(probably dating myself here lol), and I hate seeing as how as of late they are struggling and keep having delays. I want them to do well now that they have competition but the way they barely release anything or have huge delays really hurts them with the general crowd. I really want Nintendo to be the giant they were back in the 80s and 90s.

Kirby will probably be February for NA and EU. It's not like they have a lot of text to translate which is why, for example, we typically get Fire Emblem games more than a year after they release in Japan.
By why a month delay? If it isn't that much text why not a worldwide release like Pokemon?
 

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By why a month delay? If it isn't that much text why not a worldwide release like Pokemon?
It's probably for marketing reasons. There are an incredible amount of data to analyze when you release a product.
I find more interesting that Zelda is not out in Japan yet. It's been a month since the rest of the world bought it. Who knows why.
 

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It's probably for marketing reasons. There are an incredible amount of data to analyze when you release a product.
I find more interesting that Zelda is not out in Japan yet. It's been a month since the rest of the world bought it. Who knows why.
Yeah, marketing could be a reason. Interesting about Zelda, I thought Japan had got that at the same time. I'd love to ask Nintendo about why some regions gets certain games first.
 

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It's probably for marketing reasons. There are an incredible amount of data to analyze when you release a product.
This. NA and EU are considerably larger than Japan so there's a lot more to plan out when it comes to advertising and actually getting the game on shelves. Also, Zelda is probably being released later because the last couple of Zeldas haven't done very well in Japan and Nintendo wanted to test the waters in other regions first. With the glowing reviews ALBW got in NA and EU though, I can easily see Zelda making a big comeback amongst Japanese fans.
 

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I suspect a late 2014 release. I estimating for September.

On a side note: I'm excited for the Hyrule Warriors!
 

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A release in the first half of the year is still possible; Nintendo is never in a rush to reveal release dates. They've actually gotten more tight-lipped with dates in recent years, and the reason is probably to avoid having to issue so many public delays. Of course, it could also come out later; there's really no way to say, and we'll have to wait and see.
 

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I just hope we get lucky and it release sometime in june at the latest it just seems to me if it was they at least gave a date range. Nintendo just seems scared to put release dates on anything but it's time to put some cards on the table.
 

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Granted two of the links are wikia pages:
http://supersmashbros.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl

Sakurai mentions that development started on October 2005 with the opening of a new office in Tokyo. It's in the development section. My phone doesn't want to copy and paste large sections of text. Links seem to be good.

Finally, taking the source cited from the Wikipedia page, comments from Sakurai.

http://web.archive.org/web/20061116161044/www.smashbros.com/en/main.html

Again, my phone isn't copying my selected text save for addresses.

I would like to correct myself. I meant June 2006, not May 2006 in regards to the official trailer at E3.
It's not your links that are off. Your math is bad. Oct 2005 to January 2008 is not 3.5 years. Indeed the math works out to be 26 months just as TheMagicalKuga said. Which is roughly 2.17 years.

Though I do agree we don't need another release date worries thread.

I just hope we get lucky and it release sometime in june at the latest it just seems to me if it was they at least gave a date range. Nintendo just seems scared to put release dates on anything but it's time to put some cards on the table.
Why make unnecessary promises? What good does it really do them? It certainly has the potential to do them harm if they can't meet said promises, but what good does making said promises really do to begin with. As someone whose livelihood depends on it, would you really risk disappointing fans without good reason? Especially when so many titles have not been meeting deadlines lately?
 

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Why make unnecessary promises? What good does it really do them? It certainly has the potential to do them harm if they can't meet said promises, but what good does making said promises really do to begin with. As someone whose livelihood depends on it, would you really risk disappointing fans without good reason? Especially when so many titles have not been meeting deadlines lately?
This right here. People tend to think there is no harm to put out an estimated release date. But there is. It can create disharmony among the fans if the release date is pushed back. The last thing Nintendo needs right now is their fan base mad at them for pushing back release dates.
 
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