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That explanation about John Gotti was pretty good.Austin from The Backyardigans
Chance: 0%
Any Dragon Ball character already has significant obstacles and while Beerus is pretty regularly used in marketing now, there is no way they'd pick anyone other than Goku. I really do not see the point in evaluating the chances of anyone that isn't him, and we already had Goku Day. Maybe Vegeta could be added alongside Goku but that's it.
Want: 5%
Beerus is a fun character, but he's not my favorite. I'd be happy enough with Goku just because it'd be Goku in a platform fighter officially.
WHO WOULD YOU TRUST MORE; YOURSELF OR TROLLS BEHIND KEYBOARDS
Chance: 0%
There is absolutely no chance they would ever include real life Gambino crime family boss John Gotti just because they made an acclaimed HBO movie about him. The 2018 Gotti movie has rotted my brain to the point where I sometimes forget John Gotti was an actual person who committed actual crimes, including, but not limited to, murder. Gotti (1996) was at one point announced to be getting a sequel this year (called GOTTI II: THE FINAL CHAPTER, FACTS UNDISPUTED humorously enough) but at this point, if it wasn't quietly cancelled, it's definitely not coming out anytime soon and I don't even think HBO is involved at all. The entire 1996 Gotti film has been on YouTube illegally for years so HBO evidently doesn't value it very highly either. Regardless, the existence of a 1996 mob film would absolutely not increase the likelihood of, and I cannot stress this enough, real life mafia boss John Gotti being in the funny Batman Shaggy game.
Want: 15%
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, GOTTI (2018) IS THE GREATEST ****ING KINO IN THE WORLD. MY KINO.
So yeah, I only nominated this because of an entirely unrelated Gotti film starring John Travolta. For those unfamiliar with the joke (which I imagine is most people), Gotti (2018) was a film that spent years in development hell, suffered numerous issues behind the scenes, and is partially financed by the real life Gotti's son, John Gotti Jr. with of all people, Pitbull responsible for the score. The resulting film is a complete mess. The acting ranges from passable to downright terrible, the score is extremely unfitting, and the film's structure blatantly pulls from other better mob films, but doesn't even do so competently. It makes the questionable decision to kind of gloss over that Gotti was in fact, responsible for numerous murders, and opts to portray him (and his son) as victims of THE SYSTEM. It's A Choice for sure. It's not even really a haha funny watch save for a few of Travolta's lines of dialogue, like the bus scene.
The film would have been entirely unremarkable and forgotten if not for one stupid thing. You see, Gotti was a box office bomb unsurprisingly, and has the dubious distinction of holding a 0% score on Rotten Tomatoes. However, despite being a film almost no one saw, for a time, it had almost as many audience ratings as The Incredibles 2 which came out the same weekend, with most of them being positive. This was part of a poor marketing attempt by MoviePass, the film's distributor, as most of the positive reviews only reviewed Gotti and the only other film they distributed. They even started to run ads claiming "Audiences loved Gotti but critics don't want you to see it... The question is why??? Trust the people and see it for yourself!" This is a real ad made to promote the film, I am dead serious.
For a while, Gotti became a massive in-joke with people claiming it was the greatest film ever. In a way, it's the precursor to the Morbius jokes, just on a far smaller scale due to the film's limited reach. The memes died down after the main hubs for the format banned Gotti entirely, but for approximately 5 minutes, the film left its mark. To this day, some people think the "AUDIENCES LOVED GOTTI" and "CRITICS PUT OUT THE HIT" lines were part of the joke and not genuine attempts at marketing.
I have not seen the 1996 Armand Assante film, though it's apparently solid. My want score comes entirely from Gotti 2018 jokes, though even if he did somehow make it in and they added a mechanic where critics could Put Out The Hit, it'd still feel a little, shall we say, questionable to have real life crime boss John Gotti in the game. He's a bit too contemporary for it to feel natural and unlike the previously rated JFK, isn't an exaggerated caricature of the man. It'd definitely get a chuckle out of me just from association though.
LISTEN TO ME, AND LISTEN TO ME GOOD. YOU'RE NEVER GONNA SEE ANOTHER KINO LIKE THIS, IF YOU LIVE TO BE FIVE THOUSAND.
Noms:
Noms: All on Concept: Content from On Cinema
(For those unaware, On Cinema is a podcast/web series by comedians Tim Heidecker and Gregg Turkington that has ties to Adult Swim)
Minor correction: Henry Hill is also a real person, although he was mostly active before Gotti's time. A lot of ad-libbing went into Goodfellas' script though, so the argument is a bit muddier.bee rice
Chance: 0%
Yeah if by some chance this game does end up including third party anime reps and they end up going for Dragon Ball, there’s no way it’s gonna be anyone but Goku. He’s the face of the franchise, arguably the most iconic manga character ever, and he has the whole Smash meme request thing going for him as well. And if they end up doubling down and include another DB fighter with Goku, we’re more likely to see Vegeta or Piccolo joining before Beerus. And Goku isn’t very likely for this game to begin with due to licensing, so I’m not feeling a strong case for Beerus at all.
Want: 5%
Yeaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh as fun as Beerus is, he feels like a random choice to add as your primary Dragon Ball rep instead of Goku. I’ll give him that he’s an important figure in the franchise and him being the God of Destruction gives him quite a bit to work with. But again: if you’re gonna go through the trouble to get a Dragon Ball character, why wouldn’t you just get Goku? It also doesn’t help that the more niche anime WB actually have a direct connection to excite me more as potential inclusions. At heart, I am unfortunately a boomer who doesn’t care that much about Popular McShonenJumpGuy and just wants Badass McMechPerson, the protagonist of that 4 episode OVA Adult Swim funded a second season of 20 years ago.
Gottem
Chance: 1%
So uhhh John Gotti’s a really weird one because unlike any of the other WB crime lords rated, he’s actually a real person. Like, an actual mob boss behind one of America’s biggest crime syndicates. That alone opens a whole can of worms that I’m not sure the Multiversus team would want to deal with, namely the ethics of including a fictionalized version of an actual crime lord. Especially one whose reign took place within living memory, only having died 20 years ago. I feel like if they really wanted a mobster character, they’d go with Henry Hill or Tony Soprano, both of which are recognizable fictional characters who don’t carry the baggage of being directly based on real criminal kingpins.
Abstaining on want because I have no idea how to wrap my head around the ethics of including real life mob boss John Gotti as depicted by Armand Assante in the funny shaggy batman game myself.
All noms on Concept: Riverdale rep
Somehow I completely forgot Henry Hill was a real person in my write-up and just assumed he was made up for Goodfellas despite knowing better. Is this what having Gotti (2018) brainrot feels like?Minor correction: Henry Hill is also a real person, although he was mostly active before Gotti's time. A lot of ad-libbing went into Goodfellas' script though, so the argument is a bit muddier.
Funny enough, while I liked the first movie, the reason I couldn't take it very seriously is the exact opposite.The Conjuring
Abstain: I'm just gonna get this one out of the way, i never watched the series nor do i plan to because of the villain being a evil pope which i do not like(I'm Christian so i wouldn't want to displease myself on this film) although i did find that it's a pretty popular series grossing out a lot in the box office.
Noticed your new icon, it looks cute.It's been quiet the past few days.
Comments like this that don't relate to the thread should be relegated to the social thread.Noticed your new icon, it looks cute.
oh sorry.Comments like this that don't relate to the thread should be relegated to the social thread.
He's Orange!Noms to the Anoying Orange
I wonder if Lumpy Space Princess has any chance of happening someday, maybe i could try to nominate her when i get the chance later.The Titular Conjurer
Chance: 45%
I honestly had no idea how many of these movies existed until today. I knew of Annabelle but apparently they got a whole cinematic universe going. The main problem with a Conjuring rep IMO is WB also has the rights to massive horror icons like Freddy or Pennywise and they'd be much easier to sell. Not to say The Conjuring is obscure or anything, just that if we're specifically in the ballpark of "horror rep for the sake of it" you're competing against some of the giants. Regardless, the series does have its own merits for sure. It's made a ton of money and the cross promotion angle for a game like this is always a plus.
Want: 75%
Though I'm not much of a horror guy myself, the horror themed MK guests are a lot of fun so I'm always down for spooky characters. I think Annabelle would be my pick because I've actually heard of her before and she'sbasically Genoprobably the closest I'll get to having Chucky in this game. Chucky's one of my most wanted MK guests just for the second coming of SC4 Yoda so if Scorpion and Annabelle make it, that'd be pretty funny. I will say, reading some of the posts today has made me more interested in these movies. I didn't know that they're based on the work of actual paranormal investigators, that's pretty neat.
My want score will increase to 100% if they say "The Conjuring" in any film in the series because my sense of humor is broken.
It's Marbing Time
Chance: 50%
I feel like they'll probably triple dip on Adventure Time at some point, and Marceline is definitely one of the front runners there. She was playable in Lego Dimensions over both of her main competitors Ice King and PBG (although Lego Dimensions also has Lumpy Space Princess), so she has that going for her. I'd rate this higher if this was a new AT rep in general but for Marceline specifically, it could really go either way.
Want: 60%
She's a Morbius, okay? Nah but for real she could have a pretty neat moveset and I do enjoy her character. My main hold up is the more cartoon characters wind up in this game, the more disappointed I'll be that they didn't include idk, Kangaroo Jack with his false advertising meter or something stupid like that.
Noms: All on Concept: Content from On Cinema
Oh God now I want to nominate Kangaroo JackMy main hold up is the more cartoon characters wind up in this game, the more disappointed I'll be that they didn't include idk, Kangaroo Jack with his false advertising meter or something stupid like that.