Rate my UU/NN Trick Room team need help REDONE?

[Gamegenie222]

I need help with my UU/NU Trick room team. Don't worry about the other thread, here is the new one.

Hariyama- Adament nature
Items-Muscle band
Ev's 252 atk/246 def/ 10 hp
Moves-Fake Out
Brick break
Earthquake
Rock Slide. This is my lead Pkmn.

Slowking- Modest nature
Items- Leftovers
Ev's 252 Sp atk/ 252 Hp/ 4 def
Moves-Trick room
Psychic
Surf
Nasty Plot
He is my Sweeper and TR setter

Camerupt- Modest nature
Items-Charcoal
Ev's 252 Sp atk/ 252 Sp def/ 4 def
Moves-Fire Blast
Stealth Rock
Earth power
Eruption
This is my hardest hitter with no stat increase and a trapper.

Kecleon-Relaxed Nature
items- Focus Sash
Ev's 252 Hp/ 252 atk/ 4 def
Moves- Trick room
Shadow Claw
Sucker Punch
Return

Muk- Brave nature
Items- Shell Bell
Ev's 252 Atk/252 Hp/ sp def
Moves- Ice punch
Poison jab
Gunk Shot
Disable

Spritomb- Quiet nature
Items- Dread Plate
Ev's 252 hp/ 240 sp def/ 16 def
Moves- Shadow ball
Taunt
Hypnosis
Dark Pulse

If you got any pkmn I can use in my team that are UU/NN feel free to respond please. Thank You.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

You didn't need to make an entirely new thread. You could've just edited your OP in the last one.

Also your descriptions are lacking.

-Terywj

 

[xLeafybug =D]

Cut him some slack.

Right away, I think of powerful Rock/Ground/Steel Pokemon that could benefit your team as powerful trick room sweepers. Rampardos, Rhyperior, Aggron & Golem are all incredibly powerful pokemon with absurdly low speed stats that could benefit from TR.

 

[Wave⁂]

Dayum, can't believe I forgot Aggron.

 

[Gamegenie222]

Cut him some slack.

Right away, I think of powerful Rock/Ground/Steel Pokemon that could benefit your team as powerful trick room sweepers. Rampardos, Rhyperior, Aggron & Golem are all incredibly powerful pokemon with absurdly low speed stats that could benefit from TR.

I know, I am thinking about a Rhyperior with a brave or Sassy nature for my team with solid rock for the physical sweeper but right now my Muk and Hariayama are doing that right now also I know if this is a stupid question or not but does Iv characteristics determines on your highest base stat or not?

 

[Pink Reaper]

Uxie@Light Clay
Relaxed/Levitate
252Hp/252Def/4 SpDef
-Light Screen
-Reflect
-Trick Room
-U-Turn/Momento

Lead with this. Use moves in the exact order they appear.

Dread plate is a terrible item for Spiritomb, as are using Ghost/Dark moves. Give it Lefties and swap one of the moves for either HP Fighting or HP Fire. Ghost/Fighting has perfect coverage but Fire helps with the Grass/Poison types that are immune to toxic.

Shell Bell is also a terrible item, doesnt belong on Muk at all. If you're adamant about using Muk then drop Disable and Gunk Shot(Gunk Shot+Poison Jab is redundant) and add in Brick Break and Explosion. Since he seems to be an all out attacker put Life Orb or possibly expert belt on him. Brick Break is for Steels(You have Ice Punch to cover Grass types) and Explosion because it's stupidly strong.

Stealth Rocks on Camerupt is weird. Eruption is a good move but your ability to use it well is gonna be pretty terrible so you'd be better off dropping it for a Hidden Power(Grass/Ice/Electric are all good choices) Also Charcoal is another one of those "Dont bother" items. Life Orb is probably a much better bet, but you're easily walled even with it so idk. If you drop SR for Explosion you can at least take down whatever walls you anyways.

Kecleon is a terrible pokemon and should not be used ever. Drop it for Ryhperior, preferably the Swords Dance set. It can provide a massive lead early game if you manage to get Double Screen+Trick Room up with Uxie.

 

[Gamegenie222]

Uxie@Light Clay
Relaxed/Levitate
252Hp/252Def/4 SpDef
-Light Screen
-Reflect
-Trick Room
-U-Turn/Momento

Lead with this. Use moves in the exact order they appear.

Dread plate is a terrible item for Spiritomb, as are using Ghost/Dark moves. Give it Lefties and swap one of the moves for either HP Fighting or HP Fire. Ghost/Fighting has perfect coverage but Fire helps with the Grass/Poison types that are immune to toxic.

Shell Bell is also a terrible item, doesnt belong on Muk at all. If you're adamant about using Muk then drop Disable and Gunk Shot(Gunk Shot+Poison Jab is redundant) and add in Brick Break and Explosion. Since he seems to be an all out attacker put Life Orb or possibly expert belt on him. Brick Break is for Steels(You have Ice Punch to cover Grass types) and Explosion because it's stupidly strong.

Stealth Rocks on Camerupt is weird. Eruption is a good move but your ability to use it well is gonna be pretty terrible so you'd be better off dropping it for a Hidden Power(Grass/Ice/Electric are all good choices) Also Charcoal is another one of those "Dont bother" items. Life Orb is probably a much better bet, but you're easily walled even with it so idk. If you drop SR for Explosion you can at least take down whatever walls you anyways.

Kecleon is a terrible pokemon and should not be used ever. Drop it for Ryhperior, preferably the Swords Dance set. It can provide a massive lead early game if you manage to get Double Screen+Trick Room up with Uxie.

Well I don't have alot of items like that, I only have 1 leftovers in my Diamond and I don't want to use any of the choice items in this team. I am planning to use a shadow sneak for my Muk if possible, Stealth rock has been doing good for me actually. I like Kecleon even though it doesn't deal alot of damage it's just there for the TR and I want to be unique with it. I don't even have a good nature Uxie on my game and I already have Slowking on here. I suck with figuring out HP and my Spirtomb has hates to lose for it's IV characterictic. So that is what I have to say.

 

[UltiMario]

The RMT room isn't very In-game friendly.

Its more Smogon-friendly where you play to win, anything is possible, and every stall Pokemon takes less than a half hour to kill.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I'd argue that it's a little more than a half hour to get rid of.

-Terywj

 

[Pink Reaper]

Well I don't have alot of items like that, I only have 1 leftovers in my Diamond and I don't want to use any of the choice items in this team. I am planning to use a shadow sneak for my Muk if possible, Stealth rock has been doing good for me actually. I like Kecleon even though it doesn't deal alot of damage it's just there for the TR and I want to be unique with it. I don't even have a good nature Uxie on my game and I already have Slowking on here. I suck with figuring out HP and my Spirtomb has hates to lose for it's IV characteristic. So that is what I have to say.

Even if the nature is poor, use Uxie. Uxie > Everything else for Trick Room and it works amazingly well as a lead, especially in the UU environment.

Kecleon is entirely dead weight on your team. Literally 100% useless. Your team is lacking sweeping power since you rely heavily on special attacks(walled by Chancey and Regice) so you desperately need a physical attacker. Rhyperior all the way, he will absolutely destroy everything that tries to get in his way. I know you have Hariyama but Ryperior can boost himself to ludicrous levels of power in one turn and proceed to eat through half a team.

Shadow Sneak on Muk but I question what exactly you'll be hitting with it. Considering this is a trick room team priority shouldnt be a huge concern, so to that extent you could use Shadow Punch instead. And you still need brick break.

 

[Gamegenie222]

Even if the nature is poor, use Uxie. Uxie > Everything else for Trick Room and it works amazingly well as a lead, especially in the UU environment.

Kecleon is entirely dead weight on your team. Literally 100% useless. Your team is lacking sweeping power since you rely heavily on special attacks(walled by Chancey and Regice) so you desperately need a physical attacker. Rhyperior all the way, he will absolutely destroy everything that tries to get in his way. I know you have Hariyama but Ryperior can boost himself to ludicrous levels of power in one turn and proceed to eat through half a team.

Shadow Sneak on Muk but I question what exactly you'll be hitting with it. Considering this is a trick room team priority shouldnt be a huge concern, so to that extent you could use Shadow Punch instead. And you still need brick break.

I'm going to be hitting pyshic types with it once TR is down and of course Kecleon is never used because it is literaly NEVER USED but I still love it and the brick break is a requirement anyway. I thought of using a Grumpig but it hasn't been working for me well.

 

[Gates]

I'd argue that it's a little more than a half hour to get rid of.

-Terywj

Yeah, if they're predicting right why wouldn't their stallers survivwe for more than a half hour?

 

[Wave⁂]

Kecleon is never used because it is literaly NEVER USED

You mean figuratively, right?

 

[UltiMario]

A Pokemon isn't useful on a team if its just for show and literally accomplishes nothing on a team bar existing.
Its like a team w/o Chomp vs a team w/ Chomp in OU, its like having a 1 Pokemon handicap.
(Unless the entire team is Chomp checks lol)

 

[Wave⁂]

A Pokemon isn't useful on a team if its just for show and literally accomplishes nothing on a team bar existing.

Yep. Which means Kecleon would be useful on a team.

 

[Gamegenie222]

Yes I mean that but Kecleon is one of my favorite pkmn of 3rd gen and I don't care if is NU, I still love it.

@ Ultimario- You made a good point about everyone's use.

 

[UltiMario]

I like how its NN in the title.

NeverNeeded?
Like Kecleon?

 

[Gates]

Yes I mean that but Kecleon is one of my favorite pkmn of 3rd gen and I don't care if is NU, I still love it.

If you're going to play favorites instead of accepting criticism just say so in the OP

Spoiler

so that we know not to waste time on this thread

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Otherwise use Farfetch'd. Kthnxbii

-Terywj

 

[Gamegenie222]

If you're going to play favorites instead of accepting criticism just say so in the OP

Spoiler

so that we know not to waste time on this thread

Well I made a mistake in that okay.