Queen of the Underworld: Medusa's Secret Hideout

Favourite commander of Medusa's army?

  • Twinbellows

  • Dark Lord Gaul

  • Hewdraw

  • Pandora

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Klaymoor

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She will. She was in the original as well as Uprising though I don't know if she was in the Gameboy game. Anyways, she has been in the series since the beginning so she is just about as important as Pit and Palutena.
She wasn't in the Game Boy game, I heard that game wasn't supposed to be a Kid Icarus game, but the devs slapped the title before release and changed the main character for Pit, but didn't change the main villain at all.
 
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She wasn't in the Game Boy game, I heard that game wasn't supposed to be a Kid Icarus game, but the devs slapped the title before release and changed the main character for Pit, but didn't change the main villain at all.
Kid Icarus Uprising originally wasn't supposed to be a Kid Icarus game either. Sakurai wanted to make a shooting game with air and ground battles and then thought KI would be the perfect fit.
 
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She wasn't in the Game Boy game, I heard that game wasn't supposed to be a Kid Icarus game, but the devs slapped the title before release and changed the main character for Pit, but didn't change the main villain at all.
Kid Icarus Uprising originally wasn't supposed to be a Kid Icarus game either. Sakurai wanted to make a shooting game with air and ground battles and then thought KI would be the perfect fit.
So in a spiritual sense the original Kid Icarus has yet to receive a sequel?
 

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She will. She was in the original as well as Uprising though I don't know if she was in the Gameboy game. Anyways, she has been in the series since the beginning so she is just about as important as Pit and Palutena.
Hopefully she gets a bigger role than Uprising.....and a motive that isnt just 'i want muh revenge'
So do you guys think we will be waiting 18 more years for another Kid Icarus game just like Hades said? He technically said 26 years I think, but now it's 18 because of Uprising being 8 years old now.
wow its been that long. Tho I only played it in 2014, so. 6 for me. I did try it in a demo before / during 3ds launch

I remember the monoeyes were still just 2D images in the flying section XD
Kid Icarus Uprising originally wasn't supposed to be a Kid Icarus game either. Sakurai wanted to make a shooting game with air and ground battles and then thought KI would be the perfect fit.
It was starfox at one point iirc
 
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The DLC characters apparently have already been all chosen by Nintendo. I knew the fifth DLC was either going to be a Fire Emblem character, a new Pokemon, a third party character like Sora or a character from a new IP that Nintendo wants to push, and expect more of the same for the last six. Speaking of salt, I remember the backlash Dark Pit got.

The truth is, the Kid Icarus series is too unimportant to Nintendo, and Medusa just did not make a big enough impact. I'm glad she was in Uprising, but at the same time her role in that game was the worst of both worlds.
 

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As far as I recall, Nintendo gave Sakurai a list of characters they wanted, and he had to pick who gets in and such. What really misdirected us was during Joker's reveal, Reggie said all characters would be like him, really out of the blue, unexpected third parties and such.
Byleth was a bad choice in many many ways. It doesn't matter how unique the moveset is, it's about the feel of the character (although with that moveset, it could easily have been a Monster Hunter and no one would be rioting). Another blue-haired, nothing-faced anime pretty boy feels AWFUL (seriously, FE character design is the least inspired thing ever), and adding them to the game after the whole Corrin fiasco is totally tone deaf. They could easily avoided most of the backlash if this was the first character announced, because previous DLC characters have set the bar way too high for someone like Byleth, who not only comes from a franchise that the Smash community has grown to dislike, but also he's way too new, when there are other older Nintendo characters that had earned the right to be in Smash and they are still absent. Not to mention all the pointless theatrics and secrecy of their reveal, which I'm pretty sure had something to do with this, because they knew they'd get a lot of hate (even the trailer aknowledges this).
All in all, I don't care either way, the game was already awesome, but from a marketing (and possibly PR) standpoint this was a disaster.

And regarding Kid Icarus and Medusa, yeah this is a franchise Nintendo wants to kill, I remember First 4 Figures said they presented Nintendo some models for KIU figures they were working on and wanted the license to sell them. But despite Nintendo being really impressed with them, they didn't give F4F the license and prohibited them from showing said models to the public. There're also unreleased AR cards (now Medusa (Rare) is the only one, rubbing salt in the wound), canceled figmas and such. Smash Bros is the only thing Kid Icarus has left, and I think a lot of it has to do with trying to market Kid Icarus Uprising by including Pit in Brawl back in the day.
 
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I actually had no idea about First 4 Figures and KIU. There definitely seems to be favouritism at Nintendo, and we all Sakurai really loves Fire Emblem. In fact, the presentation yesterday felt like a FE lecture! I expect the remaining DLC will now be third party characters or new characters I never heard of. I also got the impression that Sakurai and Nintendo really dislike Medusa, from her strange non-role in KIU to her omission from Smash in favour of Dark Pit.
 

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I've heard rumours (nothing confirmed) that Sakurai doesn't like Medusa because she is kind of 'ugly' (I'm paraphrasing, I can't recall the exact words, but that was the sentiment), and we all know she likes Viridi. I don't think Nintendo cares either way about Medusa, but I can tell that for whatever reason they don't want to do anything with Kid Icarus. I've seen this situation happen in other companies too, killing franchises and merchandise for no good reason (one that immediately comes to mind is Disney cancelling Wander Over Yonder despite it's popularity, even cancelling merchandise and such, no reason given at all). Companies are weird with their franchises. Look at Mother 3, everyone wants that game but they never released it over here.
Dark Pit didn't take Medusa's spot, he was a last minute addition because he's a palette swap of Pit, same model and animations, just recolor it and BAM, another character. He wasn't taking anyone's spot, if he wasn't added no one would take his place. Same goes for Lucina, but she needed some tweaks to her model.
 
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I agree that Dark Pit didn't directly take Medusa's spot, but the backlash to his inclusion pretty much killed whatever slim chance Medusa had getting in. And Sakurai didn't like Medusa because she's 'ugly'? I understand that her concept art from the original KI was basically just a silly, overweight Gorgon caricature, but her redesign in KIU was incredible. And Ridley and Bowser aren't exactly easy on the eyes, either.
 

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Ah, drawing angry characters, my specialty. Quick tip: the outer end of the eyebrows almost never move, but the inner ones do, that's the key to give them expression (in the picture she looks sad because both, the outer and inner ends are low). Also her hairline is too low, doesn't give the eyebrows enough space to do their thing. And the split of her hair is above her right eye, not in the middle. Stop me now or I'll continue forever, I love this character's design XD
 
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As far as I recall, Nintendo gave Sakurai a list of characters they wanted, and he had to pick who gets in and such. What really misdirected us was during Joker's reveal, Reggie said all characters would be like him, really out of the blue, unexpected third parties and such.
Byleth was a bad choice in many many ways. It doesn't matter how unique the moveset is, it's about the feel of the character (although with that moveset, it could easily have been a Monster Hunter and no one would be rioting). Another blue-haired, nothing-faced anime pretty boy feels AWFUL (seriously, FE character design is the least inspired thing ever), and adding them to the game after the whole Corrin fiasco is totally tone deaf. They could easily avoided most of the backlash if this was the first character announced, because previous DLC characters have set the bar way too high for someone like Byleth, who not only comes from a franchise that the Smash community has grown to dislike, but also he's way too new, when there are other older Nintendo characters that had earned the right to be in Smash and they are still absent. Not to mention all the pointless theatrics and secrecy of their reveal, which I'm pretty sure had something to do with this, because they knew they'd get a lot of hate (even the trailer aknowledges this).
All in all, I don't care either way, the game was already awesome, but from a marketing (and possibly PR) standpoint this was a disaster.

And regarding Kid Icarus and Medusa, yeah this is a franchise Nintendo wants to kill, I remember First 4 Figures said they presented Nintendo some models for KIU figures they were working on and wanted the license to sell them. But despite Nintendo being really impressed with them, they didn't give F4F the license and prohibited them from showing said models to the public. There're also unreleased AR cards (now Medusa (Rare) is the only one, rubbing salt in the wound), canceled figmas and such. Smash Bros is the only thing Kid Icarus has left, and I think a lot of it has to do with trying to market Kid Icarus Uprising by including Pit in Brawl back in the day.
When has Sakurai ever not done something out of fear for backlash from "fans"?
 
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