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Quakfest 9: Tribute to Sriracha 7-12-08 -PARK ON ROSEWOOD WAY + GO THROUGH SIDE DOOR

Rosedemon

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everyone wants to kill mario today .. time for me to visit lafayette town
No, everyone wants to prove that shiek should beat mario regardless, which is hardly true.

People forget to factor in player skill, match up knowledge, and match up comfortability.

Ken already proved it, hes extremely good against shieks (his counter character) yet hes stated that he doesnt like peach vs marth.

Maybe Atma has trouble with marios, or didnt know the match up that well. Maybe Dajuan (Shroomed) is really THAT good against shieks. He has played quite a few, and all of them are decent at best.

And do you guys realize you are poking fun at him, whether you understand it or not. Making fun of Atma because his charcater should **** Dajuan's character regardless makes it seem as if Dajuan's win was unjustified because he was playing a horrible sheik, which Atma isnt.
 

pockyD

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if you think the discussion of the people involved is anything more than joking, you're out of your mind... what's the difference, like 9th place vs. 13th? who cares?

player skill - of COURSE player skill trumps character matchup, I don't think anyone is arguing against this
match up knowledge // match up comfortability - duh, that's the whole point here; any sheik that knows what they're doing will **** mario. Obviously someone who's never played smash before isn't going to pick up sheik and beat mario

maybe maybe maybe blah blah blah overthink; just enjoy the moment
 

Shroomed

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so you're saying a sheik that knows what they're doing will always beat a mario that knows what they're doing as well?

and if you wanna kill mario today torn path come try to kill mine lawlz, but really who wants to smash tomoro (wednesday)
 

darkatma

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lol you guys are ridiculous
the majority of the matches were actually peach vs mario anyways.

seeing as green mario has beaten almost every good peach, I'd say the matchup is pretty even at least.
 

Shroomed

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so basically what your saying is i have no chance against any sheik that knows how to play against mario? and btw atma u have a good peach, just too much peach practice over here lol

highly doubt u have much mario practice lol

and NeighborhoodP, i highly doubt that just because im facing a sheik that knows how to play mario makes it to where i cant win
 

NeighborhoodP

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^ or maybe he has the advantage in the matchup because no one ever plays a good mario

that doesn't mean the matchup itself is proven to be even

shroomed, mario has a lot of stuff to really do some nasty things to sheik with, but that can be succinctly phrased in that mario has a good punish game on sheik. the problem is a good sheik is rarely going to leave themselves opened to be punished, and outside of that it's a decent character v a top tier character. so yes, v a smart good sheik, mario will get *****
 

Shroomed

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i completely understand that, but dont go saying that i basically have no chance vs any good sheik, because that's not true at all
 

Shroomed

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im not arguing that, im just saying dont go saying i shudnt beat a sheik main simply because they're good and main shiek, that's all
 

Shroomed

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alrite then, new topic now? lol

and believe me atma, i know all about that zelda day

i dont know what jose calls himself for a smash name (ky i think or sumthin like that), but he told me how his zelda did against qwak lawl
 

Rosedemon

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given equal skill, mario should lose

though i'm getting bored of repeating the same concept with different words
Knowing Dajuan personally, I can tell you, Atma IS the better player. Im not bashing on Dajuan, nor am I saying he sucks, but I am saying Atma is more consistent, and technical than Dajaun. Atma also plays the better character(s).

With that said, WHY did he lose? Based on your logic, he should've won, regardless.

And from what I saw, I can conclude that Dajuan knows the match up more intimately then Atma.

I also would like to question Atma's reason for staying Peach on Yoshi's, but thats a debate for another day.
 

Shroomed

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ok alan, we've moved on to jose's zelda vs qwak now

we can drop the whole mario v sheik thing

MARIO 4 life
 

Shroomed

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well im trying to write a paper and all you people keep distracting me, but yeah either way it was fun matches atma
 

FALCOMIST

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Knowing Dajuan personally, I can tell you, Atma IS the better player. Im not bashing on Dajuan, nor am I saying he sucks, but I am saying Atma is more consistent, and technical than Dajaun. Atma also plays the better character(s).

With that said, WHY did he lose? Based on your logic, he should've won, regardless.

And from what I saw, I can conclude that Dajuan knows the match up more intimately then Atma.

I also would like to question Atma's reason for staying Peach on Yoshi's, but thats a debate for another day.
Wow ever heard of having a bad day ? or not doing so well some days?

That how some competitive players feel. Not everyone is perfect

lol no offence to Shroom or Alan... But u see... A Mario main and a Peach main... So are they in love? lol just playing.
 

Shroomed

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on a lighter note, anyone relatively close to richmond wanna smash tomoro? since prodigykid cancelled his STD
 

Rosedemon

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Wow ever heard of having a bad day ? or not doing so well some days?

That how some competitive players feel. Not everyone is perfect

lol no offence to Shroom or Alan... But u see... A Mario main and a Peach main... So are they in love? lol just playing.
Trust me, you dont know the half of it.

Me and Dajuan argue like a married couple. Our friends always ask us when we're going to get married. I planned it next spring, maybe in arpil on a nice bea.......nvm........
 

Shroomed

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wow alan, thanks for making me sound gay

im gonna save u the trouble of planning anything and just say:

1: never

2: **** no

3: girls
 

Rosedemon

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LOL i was wondering that myself a few hours later
I was like, "Ugh, why doesnt he go shiek!"

I prefer platforms when dealing with mario. Especially since I can read pretty much everything Dajuan is going to do.
 

Shroomed

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well aren't we the little mind reader

then why do i beat ur shiek most of the time huh alan? i dont even play gay vs u like i did atma

never dthrow chaingrabs or dthrow fsmash u, maybe its time to start TOMORO MM sheik v mario

ill b nice and u can pick any stage u want
 

Rosedemon

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wow alan, thanks for making me sound gay

im gonna save u the trouble of planning anything and just say:

(Dajuan's inner monolouge)

1: never say never

2: **** no I wont say never

3: girlsare not my type
There we go, fixed it for you.
 

ToRn_PaTh

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i wish mario's recovery wasnt so terrible, though. i play my mario a bit like my fox.. except no shines and no recovery :p. his F smash is my favorite
 
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