Project Volnutt - Currently seeking animators!

[digiholic]

Well, if Zero is really going over ROB, I could probably still move mine over to someone else.

And apparently, BSZ hasn't discovered a way of using TvC animations.

 

[Pokechao]

Hey! Guess what! Neither of you is an authority that can direct a community project! In addition to this, it's completely irrelevant to this topic. Stop acting 12, or stop posting. Your choice.

HEY! GUESS WHAT! ELDIRAN IS BASICLLY RUNNING THE PROJECT NOW
AND IT SAYS RIGHT ON THE OP THAT ZERO IS GOING OVER LINK
NOW STOP WITH THIS DISCUSSION AND GET BACk ON TOPIC N00B

 

[Zenox the Chimera]

HEY! GUESS WHAT! ELDIRAN IS BASICLLY RUNNING THE PROJECT NOW
AND IT SAYS RIGHT ON THE OP THAT ZERO IS GOING OVER LINK
NOW STOP WITH THIS DISCUSSION AND GET BACk ON TOPIC N00B

Caps Lock is stuck, just wanted to let you know that.

 

[Holy Lance]

Even though I've never played a game with Volnut, this project seems impressive and the character looks like a lot of fun.

Can't wait to see the progress

 

[digiholic]

Enough with the petty arguing over who Zero is going over. They'll probably be done by the time I get to PSA work, and animations are easy to port to other characters. Basically, if it is over ROB, I'll move.

 

[Ronaldmcdonald]

I think this thread is dead.

 

[TommoPuppy]

Then why are you disturbing the dead?

 

[yohkun]

Then why are you disturbing the dead?

because he is a spam bot
i am still hoping that some more animators can help him

 

[Ronaldmcdonald]

I am not a spam bot. There is no animators. You are only kidding yourself. Also ds22's Naruto animations work over him http://www.mediafire.com/?djwyrym3vhq If you download that he will have most animations but it makes him slightly taller.

 

[Fakescaper]

I have a small suggestion, but it looks like it probably won't get in. It'd still be awesome if you could do this though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wedc9fc5lhg

This is a vid I made with some random ideas for Megaman in Brawl, skip to 1:44 and read the info about the "Shield Arm" from MML2.

Or, just read this post.

I was thinking his down special could be the MML2 shield arm, which ABSORBS energy projectiles (like pit's arrows... or anything else Lucas/Ness can absorb) but not normal things thrown at him like a bat. (Those will still hurt him).

Also, a small thing not to many people know about MML2, is that the shield actually can be used to attack. The sheild has small white dots that float on the outside of the shield moving to the top middle. The more attacks you absorb, the bigger those dots get. When you release the shield after absorbing enough energy, it lets out a shockwave all around it. It looks bigger and does more damage depending on how much energy it absorbed. And in MML2, Trigger is able to walk/run while the shield is on, so that's something to think about. But he can't use attacks while in it. (Like his buster gun).

Ignore everything else in that video btw.

 

[Xigger]

Hey.... need any help with animating?

 

[Fen__]

He most certainly does. I'm not sure how often he's checking Smash Boards right now, though, so be patient with him getting back to you.

 

[Xigger]

He most certainly does. I'm not sure how often he's checking Smash Boards right now, though, so be patient with him getting back to you.

Ok. I'll be here if anyone wants animating

 

[digiholic]

I do, in fact, need help animating.

Have you seen the reference video yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRapKLTetgI

 

[Xigger]

I have now. So, we're using this game as reference? Looks like you're only missing a few moves. What could I do first?

 

[digiholic]

Might as well knock the hardest out of the way first and get the walking animation done.

 

[Xigger]

Might as well knock the hardest out of the way first and get the walking animation done.

So.... should I just guestimate , or should I somehow look at the animation coordinates from Whatever vs. Capcom?

 

[digiholic]

Unfortunately, there is no way of viewing TvC animations in a useful format. You'll just have to mimic it.

 

[Kei_Takaro]

I will go back to Volnutt soon, though I was wondering on how to make a "feathered" transition from Punch back to Standing (meaning having x animation revert to y animation and the way it changes is smooth)

 

[Xigger]

I will go back to Volnutt soon, though I was wondering on how to make a "feathered" transition from Punch back to Standing (meaning having x animation revert to y animation and the way it changes is smooth)

Hard work ought to fix that. It's tough, but do~able.

Anyways, I'll get started on the walking animation. Let me know if you guys want help with anyways else, Volnutt or not, Animate or not.

EDIT: Loads fine just for me. Had no idea how far behind we were. Weird Polygon and bone structure. I have this odd feeling that the extra bones will come back to haunt us...

 

[digiholic]

And just like that we are back! Volnutt has a chance at being completed now!

I'll get back to tweaking the physics. How do you guys think he should be? Right now, I'm going for a light weight, fast faller who's slightly faster jumping than he is running to make him more combo-oriented. (Basically, a slightly heavier fox) anyone else have any suggestions?

 

[Xigger]

And just like that we are back! Volnutt has a chance at being completed now!

I'll get back to tweaking the physics. How do you guys think he should be? Right now, I'm going for a light weight, fast faller who's slightly faster jumping than he is running to make him more combo-oriented. (Basically, a slightly heavier fox) anyone else have any suggestions?

I think he should be slightly slower in run and fall speeds than Fox, being a weapon character. More like Wolf's run and fall speed than Fox. But the ratio should be the same, the combo-oriented plan is a good idea.

 

[Fen__]

I agree with Xigger. Given his versatility, I wouldn't want to make him too fast for fear of breaking him.

 

[Kei_Takaro]

Just a quick idea from my head struck though might not be useful but its nice to hear from you guys:
What if side step dodge becomes toggles from [previous weapon used] to [normal arm] and vice versa?

Random off-topic:

Spoiler

Anyone else catch the last episode of Angel Beats? I Q.Q'd and got me to work on my Brawl with Brave Song BGM lol

 

[Fen__]

I don't think the sidestep thing is a very good idea. That really poses a weird problem when playing Volnutt since what might usually be to your benefit (sidestepping) may put you in a weird position. It's like gimping his defensive potential.

 

[Xigger]

Just a quick idea from my head struck though might not be useful but its nice to hear from you guys:
What if side step dodge becomes toggles from [previous weapon used] to [normal arm] and vice versa?

Random off-topic:

Spoiler

Anyone else catch the last episode of Angel Beats? I Q.Q'd and got me to work on my Brawl with Brave Song BGM lol

Sounds like a fun idea, but it would break the dodge game. Still, it's awesome to know we can switch any animation and function with another (see sig with Snake)


Pssst..... I have a question. Is animating Megaman and changing his attributes the ONLY thing we're doing right now?

Scratch that; I have a better question. Concerning Megaman's walk, the default forward walk movement doesn't seem to match the walking speed on ROBs. Do you have a speed in mind yet or should I make my own?

 

[digiholic]

I'm still tweaking his physics, so make the walk however you want and I'll fix the PSA speed.

Right now, animations and physics are all we can do, since making collisions for attacks in PSA requires the animations. Hopefully soon we can start on his actual moveset.

 

[Xigger]

I'm still tweaking his physics, so make the walk however you want and I'll fix the PSA speed.

Right now, animations and physics are all we can do, since making collisions for attacks in PSA requires the animations. Hopefully soon we can start on his actual moveset.

Got it. I'm juggling stuff around right now, but I should be done by tomorrow.

 

[Kei_Takaro]

I kinda forgot, what's the difference of Run and Dash again? and which ones the one at max speed?
I might as well do the hardest one first (but instead of taking the MMLegends Jet Skates, I'm pulling a Lan Hikari)

BTW: Can't we port animations from the other characters (ex: Naruto PSA?) I remember someone before mentioning something similar to that

 

[digiholic]

I kinda forgot, what's the difference of Run and Dash again? and which ones the one at max speed?
I might as well do the hardest one first (but instead of taking the MMLegends Jet Skates, I'm pulling a Lan Hikari)

BTW: Can't we port animations from the other characters (ex: Naruto PSA?) I remember someone before mentioning something similar to that

Dash is the quick moving forward right after you hit the joystick, it transitions into running, which is the max speed.

And I, too, was think of a Lan Hikari style run.

And the Naruto animations work, for the most part. I used them as a base for the jumps.

 

[Xigger]

Dash is the quick moving forward right after you hit the joystick, it transitions into running, which is the max speed.

And I, too, was think of a Lan Hikari style run.

And the Naruto animations work, for the most part. I used them as a base for the jumps.

Speaking of which, Sonic's walk animation is eerily similar to Megaman's. But I'd rather mimic from Tetsuwhocares vs. Capcom.

 

[digiholic]

Speaking of which, Sonic's walk animation is eerily similar to Megaman's. But I'd rather mimic from Tetsuwhocares vs. Capcom.

I don't think Sonic will work, Naruto's animations work because the game he's from has a nearly identical bone structure to Tatsunoko Vs Capcom's. Although, to be honest, I haven't tried, so let me check that.

EDIT: Looks like no one from the game works. Oh well.

 

[Kei_Takaro]

Been meaning to ask this too just FMI, why is there 2 layers of the Megaman Volnutt? One is slightly bigger than the other. Any solid facts on these?
Just a guess that it's either the "partner assist" model or the "hyper move zoom" model

Progress on Volnutt: Not much, just listed unchecked polygons that aren't really necessesary

ds22: Yes please
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[ds22]

I have a FitRobotMotionEtc.pac with some of Naruto's animations working.
If you want, I could show you how I got it working.

 

[Xigger]

Been meaning to ask this too just FMI, why is there 2 layers of the Megaman Volnutt? One is slightly bigger than the other. Any solid facts on these?
Just a guess that it's either the "partner assist" model or the "hyper move zoom" model

Progress on Volnutt: Not much, just listed unchecked polygons that aren't really necessesary

ds22: Yes please
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Yeah, I noticed that. All those polygons makes Brawlbox lag.

I have a FitRobotMotionEtc.pac with some of Naruto's animations working.
If you want, I could show you how I got it working.

Which animations did you throw in?

 

[ds22]

I included all of Naruto's animations excluding the new EscapeB.
They still have Naruto's bone translations though...
What you do is take out the animations from FitIkeMotionEtc.pac and replace an animation from FitRobotMotionEtc.pac with it.
Then it will work.

 

[Xigger]

I included all of Naruto's animations excluding the new EscapeB.
They still have Naruto's bone translations though...
What you do is take out the animations from FitIkeMotionEtc.pac and replace an animation from FitRobotMotionEtc.pac with it.
Then it will work.

Hmm... so simple, and the only drawback is reassigning the Translation XYZ values... I have a hunch that I should scrap all my progress on the Walk and restart it on Naruto's. Thanks for the tip.

 

[digiholic]

Hmm... so simple, and the only drawback is reassigning the Translation XYZ values... I have a hunch that I should scrap all my progress on the Walk and restart it on Naruto's. Thanks for the tip.

If we're just using Naruto's walk, I can do that. It's just busy work resetting the translations, and I'd rather have someone with animating talent handle the real stuff. I didn't want to use animations straight from Naruto to make Volnutt more original, but if you say it's okay ds22, I guess we can go with it.

If that's the plan, I'll handle the walking, Kei is getting the run, do you think you can handle the jumping, Xigger? Naruto's jump looks way to ninja-ish for Volnutt.

 

[ds22]

I see no reason why you couldn't use Naruto's Walk animations.
I for one ripped those Walk animations from Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors (with HEAVY bone translation fixing).

 

[Fen__]

I'd say not to worry about the lack of originality in copying some of the animations for now. They can always be adjusted later to be more Volnutt-like. I think it'll be good to at least have something there in the meantime. Then, later, once the PSA is in the works for things involving animations that won't change much, other animations can be adjusted to be original.