Project S.P.I.K.E.

[SparkZ]

Project S.P.I.K.E.(Spike Properties Identified for Killer Edgeguarding)
The purpose of this is to document every single attack in Brawl that sends the opponent at a downward trajectory. If you are like me, looking everywhere for new spikes is very boring, so if you find a new one, post it here. Here are the rules. 1. It can be done by a character,pokemon, item, assist trophy, or stage hazard. 2. It has to be done on a Jigglypuff in midair at 999% at 1\4th speed to make sure that the variable of falling speed doesn't skew the results. 3. the properties of the spike must be identified. that means what part of the attack actually spikes. Or, for psuedo-spikes, about what angle it sends the foe at. I will update the list often. It may sound tedious, but remember, it's for the good of the smash community!
P.S. "wimpy spikes" are attacks that only stun, but have no knockback, thus making the opponent fall to their doom. There will be annother list for these.

 

[Kyle_Wattula]

DK-

sideB while DK is aerial. the entire active hitbox
Fair, once the hands go between his legs. lol
Dair, the entire active hitbox.
Cargo ftoss/Dtoss under select stages.

 

[Pengie]

Falco's D-air still spikes but the sweet spot is around his calves.

 

[Jeff Highwind]

Snake's Fair, Hit the heel on the axe kick for some doom.

 

[Raenbo]

-first post-
Diddy's Dair. I think they have to be under him.

 

[FlashGearz]

Ikes down tilt spikes from when the sword goes out, to right before it ends/

 

[xMaj]

Marth Dair

on tip of sword, near the back bottom, won't work in the front (of direction facing). Enemies go straight down, not at an angle like in melee

 

[FightingGameGuy]

Lucas' Bair (last hexagon) and Dair (last kick).

 

[Nevakanezah]

(note: i havent tested these, though im mostly certian they all spike)
Ike's dair - entire hitbox
pit's dtilt - middle of blade, good edgeguard(?)
olimar's dair - directly below him, though requires either a purple or a red to work
tlink's dair, but they have to be immediately below you. once he's moving full speed its not a spike any more
peach's fair may still be a spike (i think it was in melee too)
sonics dair does a wimpy spike, i think.
-these are all i can toss off the top of my head for now, ive also heard oli's up b spikes (off the ground?), but have yet to see it.

 

[Surgo]

Can we please distinguish which ones are actually a meteor smash and which ones are real spikes?

 

[Talek]

Robs dair - either the entire hitbox or just the the first rocket blast

 

[Tristan_win]

Zamus dair

If I remember correctly it only spikes if you hit them with her foot

Note: Zamus dies first if you try to use it for suicide strike.

 

[Surgo]

Also I've definitely meteored people at an angle with Marth's d-air, you're gonna need more testing there.

 

[Grid]

Would you consider ganondorfs side B a spike, or just a crazy suicide attack?

 

[Metà]

Samus's b-up

Seriously, try it sometime

EDIT: Didn't see this post

Would you consider ganondorfs side B a spike, or just a crazy suicide attack?

Actually, if your opponent is off the edge while you're on the ground, it is indeed a spike.

 

[Evilpenguin]

Lucas

dair - 4th hit, not very strong at low percents.
bair - Lucas does a flip. if you hit with the last 4th of it (coming down at the end) it spikes and is very powerful.

 

[Evilpenguin]

Can we please distinguish which ones are actually a meteor smash and which ones are real spikes?

I believe they are all the same in brawl. I have not seen a single meteor cancel.

 

[Ryanarius]

pit's dtilt - middle of blade, good edgeguard(?)

I'm pretty sure for the dtilt to meteor they have to be touching pits feet; otherwise it hits them up. I've really only found the spike useable when they are trying to come through the level

 

[Oi Kyon]

Zamus's ^B and vB, but vB only if you press B again.

 

[Smashed Potatoes]

Zelda's dair can spike if sweetspotted. Hit with her toe.

 

[Rui]

Wolf's dair is a spike.

 

[Raenbo]

A pitfall can spike if thrown at an airborne opponent.

 

[waks]

Ganon's dair seems like a meteor, I just dont have an idea what are the exact frames.

Falcon's dair is a spike, its just that if you dont hit the opponent with his foot(?), it sends them upward.

 

[trio1000]

Diddy's up b if the opponent is directly below him in the initial explosion it spikes them, found this out by accident

 

[SCOTU]

I think it would also be worthwhile to test to see if it is a spike or a meteor, because to my knowledge, there are only meteors in this game.

 

[Seikishidan Soru]

Kirby's dash A will spike an opponent downwards if they're hanging on the edge (and have run out of invincibilty frames obviously).

 

[Earthbound360]

Ness' dair early sweetspot below him.
Late sweetspot above him sends foes sideways.

Tail of PK Thunder is a wimpy spike.

 

[Beowulf Lee]

I believe they are all the same in brawl. I have not seen a single meteor cancel.

Mew2King said that he meteor canceled Marth's Dair when doing tests.

 

[memphischains]

sonic might with his side b under the most awkward conditions

 

[k4polo]

I heard Sonic's spring UP B can spike if timed properly. (Hit them with spring) diddy's and wolf's DAIRS seems to spike

 

[dxyabyss]

Wolf's side B can spike (if timed right GL with that) Along with falco's side B

only real way ive found to do these (without killing yourself) play on bridge of eldin and intercept over the pit, or knock them off the side and chase them by jumping backwards and hope that they end in front of you and you can intercept

GL with that


one other thing Snakes Fair can spike and mario's fair is pretty close

 

[jalued]

Charizards Dair spikes, but hsa a pretty small hitbox. Ivysaur alos has a spike, Dair, but it has the be hit close the the bulb, otherwise it'll just hit the opponent upwards

 

[memphischains]

sonics spring does not spike

 

[pesticide]

diddys dair and his hump -> jump off. not sure if it's a spike, but it sends them downward

 

[Surgo]

Mew2King said that he meteor canceled Marth's Dair when doing tests.

So meteor cancelling does exist, then. Instead of just calling everything a 'spike', can we see which ones are actually spikes and which ones are actually meteors?

 

[toxicpudding]

lucas's bair
side B (has to be toward his back)
if u are about 45 degrees above their head back facing them this will pound them down

 

[Wave⁂]

1. It can be done by a pokemon, item, assist trophy, or stage hazard.

Therefore, all character spikes/meteors do not count.

 

[SparkZ]

Some of the posts are unclear. Tell me what those "awkward conditions" are for sonic's sideB. EB360, did you test that at 999 damage? We need specific data here! Especially concerning whether something is a spike,meteor,or psuedo-spike.
Edit: To Annoying, that was an accident. I thought that it was a given that character attacks would be included as well. Oops.:embarrass

 

[Rufeo]

Fox's first hit on his dair sends them down. Not sure of its killing potential though. Don't have the game so I can't test it now.

 

[Repulse X]

difference between a meteor smash and a spike?

noob i know but what is it?