Project M Social Thread

[bubbaking]

If you miss a grab, it's because YOU DESERVED IT!

 

[`dazrin]

She has good ways of setting up grabs and once you get one, you should be getting a pretty lengthy string of % off of it.

 

[cannedbread]

whenever a new character gets revealed i always think "how will they do against puff?" puff matchups are so intriguing to me.

 

[Jolteon]

Looks like I'll have to show people that zss has potential =D

 

[bubbaking]

That's what Apples said about Wario.....

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

that's what everyone has said about every character in the history of ever

there are still people saying that about pichu

 

[cannedbread]

oh no i definitely think she has potential but for me doing a certain way vs puff puts the character in a certain place

 

[Meme]

I'll try out ZSS, but my priorities are on Ivysaur and Squirtle <3

Then again, I still can't decide which character to main (at least on 2.1).

 

[PGH Carroll]

i suffered thru brawl with zss.

Hipsters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJDfWNGDog0&t=3m40s

Edit: Ike tho..

 

[iLink]

I was about to call you out on no Ike

So does ZSS not have that horrible short hop height that she had in vbrawl? That was literally the only reason I couldn't use her lol.

 

[cannedbread]

that short hop could win the olympics

 

[Jolteon]

ZSS is not Wario.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

ZSS' shorthop in PM is a lot lower

 

[Stunts]

that's what everyone has said about every character in the history of ever

there are still people saying that about pichu

HEY!!

Pichu's the ****, aite? lol

Also, can you reverse Dive Kick out of DownB? And can you Dive Kick at all out of Flipstool?

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I'm just really eager to see how Yoshi will play in this game. I already know I'll have an ubertier main with Lucario, so now I just want my favorite smash character added for friendlies. Plus given the fact that PM does such an awesome job of making butt characters more viable, a higher tier Yoshi should be a real treat. I may even get to use him more than I currently use Lucario and Bowser.

Yoshi for 2.5! Here's hoping.

 

[bubbaking]

Well, will Lucaryu still be "ubertier" once 2.5 is out?

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I don't see why he wouldn't be.

Any changes they made to nerf him that hard would be pretty noticeable, and I've heard no such things. Any changes he gets are probably pretty minor.

 

[Stunts]

I'm just really eager to see how Yoshi will play in this game. I already know I'll have an ubertier main with Lucario, so now I just want my favorite smash character added for friendlies. Plus given the fact that PM does such an awesome job of making butt characters more viable, a higher tier Yoshi should be a real treat. I may even get to use him more than I currently use Lucario and Bowser.

Yoshi for 2.5! Here's hoping.

Shh. You might jinx it

 

[iLink]

His dash attack isn't an instant fast shield pressure from a good distance anymore.

Good riddance to the old DA. Lucarios relied on that way too much and just did DA > sideb all day.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Not gonna lie, I did abuse DA.

 

[9Kplus1]

2.5 Lucario is still pretty gay and obviously top tier.

Like srs

fawk Luke v Ivy

such a dumb mu

 

[DMG]

Lucario vs quite a few people is/was dumb lol. Oh you DI'd away that's cute DOUBLE TEAM WILL SOLVE THAT

 

[C.SDK]

I guess I'll ask again:

Will Yoshi be able to jump out of shield/egg? :O

 

[DrinkingFood]

Lucario and Ike were both obviously way better than fox by an enormous margin.

 

[byron]

I hope they announce Ice Climbers for 2.5 but since they announced ZZS the other secret character will probably be normal Samus. I didn't see a big article about ZZS being announced on the front page of the website. I just noticed her picture was colored in lol.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I guess I'll ask again:

Will Yoshi be able to jump out of shield/egg? :O

Lol, he better

just this one simple change would do freaking wonders for increasing his viability. Any other cool tweaks would just be to make him more interesting.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I hope they announce Ice Climbers for 2.5 but since they announced ZZS the other secret character will probably be normal Samus. I didn't see a big article about ZZS being announced on the front page of the website. I just noticed her picture was colored in lol.

They've actually confirmed that it will NOT be Samus.

or so I've read

Wow, didn't even realize I had double posted X_x

 

[cannedbread]

food on the spacie hate train

 

[leelue]

Aka the train of reason
Chuggachuggachuggachugga

 

[DMG]

Lucario and Ike were both obviously way better than fox by an enormous margin.

I dunno what your point is. Ike and Lucario could both use some design tweaks. If you only want to look at a character's viability being under Fox and use that as the bar for any changes, then you're missing out on the fact that there's plenty of room for improvement design or "feel" wise. Ike being top 5 doesn't mean he's designed well lol.

 

[DrinkingFood]

I don't have a problem with tweaks. or fox or falco btw. I have a problem with how ike and lucario were handled, that being tweak-nerfed. They weren't JUST tweaked, which would have been fine with me, so long as they weren't becoming worse characters.

 

[DMG]

There are plenty of characters who would love to be anywhere Lucario or Ike, post "nerf". That alone should suggest it's not a big deal since they *hopefully* are going to be designed better and balanced easier. That's the main sticking point: better design. If they drop because now you don't just DA into Side B or because Aether is easier to edge guard, it proves those things were lame to begin with.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

I dunno what your point is. Ike and Lucario could both use some design tweaks. If you only want to look at a character's viability being under Fox and use that as the bar for any changes, then you're missing out on the fact that there's plenty of room for improvement design or "feel" wise. Ike being top 5 doesn't mean he's designed well lol.

Examples: Brawl meta knight. ice climbers in any game.

 

[iLink]

Lucario got some buffs with his nerfs. Like breverse downb and faster dsmash.

I also heard something about canceling aurasphere charge on the ground without going into his shield animation for easier ASC followups. Don't know how much of that is true.

 

[Sixth-Sense]

When someone says "samus not confirmed" does it mean that she will NOT be in 2.5? or is the PMBR just trying to trick everyone? please respond, i need sum samoose

 

[standardtoaster]

Samus will not be in 2.5.

 

[iLink]

Is that due to buggy reasons or because you guys are still trying to figure out what to do with her?

 

[Stunts]

is it a melee veteran?

 

[JCaesar]

Samus will be in 2.5. Her power suit will not.

 

[Mr.Pickle]

Lol, he better

just this one simple change would do freaking wonders for increasing his viability. Any other cool tweaks would just be to make him more interesting.

I think the best way to keep yoshi viable is to keep him as melee as possible. The addition of being able to get his double jump out of his side b already gives him a lot of viability with all the things he had going for him in melee, and when I say making him more melee, I mean giving back his melee super armor, the way he throws his eggs, and the addition of parry.

Also has the pmbr seen my post in smash mods about charizard's face hurt box extending in front of a large empty spot in front of his face, or has this already been fixed?